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KingOftheThing
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mescaline for beginners
#2885178 - 07/13/04 07:56 AM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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On saturday night I started with 3 20 inch fairly thick live san-pedro cactus. We prepared the cacti in the following method: - We removed the spines of the cacti using a vegetable peeler. - I cut the cacti into disks about half an inch thick - I filled a blender about 1 third of the way with water and added a squirt of lemon juice. I added cactus cuttings blended then added more and blended. It is important to not have too many cuttings in the blender at one time so you don't burn out the motor. I would had pieces of cactus until the blender was full. I then poured it into a large bowl and repeated the process until all the cactus was blended. - I poured the cactus into 2 large pots and boiled them at almost full heat for 30 mins. after the boil i filtered the cactus through a the t shirt into a large bowl. because the cactus mush was so hot i used 2 plates to squeeze all the liquid into a bowl. I added more water and lemon juice to the cactus mush in the pots and repeated this process 3 more times (4 30min boils). - i was left with a large amount of mescaline filled water which i poured into 4 pots and began to boil it on full heat to remove all of the excess water. as the water levels got lower i combined it into one pot. - i continued the boiling until what i was left with was a slimey liquid. From what I learned from another shroomerite it is important to boil it down as far as possible. the less u have to drink the less likely you will throw up. - when finished 3 thick cactus was boiled down to a substance which fit perfectly into 3 shot glasses. - i took my shot and IMMEDIATLY followed it by chugging an enitre bottle of mountain dew (another method recommended to me). i consumed the mescaline at about 12am what followed was 16 hours of tripping my stomach felt fine for about 45 mins, then i felt a little bit sick. this feeling persisted until about 1hr 30mins later when it began to be replaced by a warm "body buzz" very similar to the effects of mdma. at about 2hr i was tripping, i had odd visuals, colors were vibarant and the carpet was swirling into complex patterns. we went outside and walked for about another 2hrs enjoying nature. i had an odd feeling that someone was always right behind me, i kept looking around to see who was there....it was no one (the paranoia was with me all night). i was never confused and always knew what was going on, unlike what the disorientation i sometimes get on mushrooms. i was however tripping very hard, if i stared at something it exploded in visual movement. we came back inside put on my headpohnes and spent the next 4hrs lying on the floor listening to psytance and staring into a water bottle. my thought process was that drugs are just chemicals in affecting your brain and senses nothing more. it wasnt like the spirtual magical thoughts i get on mushrooms. the trip was never scary, never too overwhelming even though my reality was ripped apart. it just kept going, it lasted well into sunday. i ended up not sleeping until 3pm on sunday and i was still tripping when i went to sleep. I recommend mescaline to everyone. It is an interesting and fun pschedelic, however in my opinion if u are looking for an intensely spiritual experience pscilocybin is much better.
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Next time, ditch the lemon juice. In my experiments, it only makes it more bitter (go figure).
Fresh cactus sucks. Grind up some sun-dried Ptorch and pound it with Dew (no preparation except coffee grinder). Do it on an empty stomach because the dried cactus expands as it absorbs water in your gut. It's cheaper. $10/dose.
The caffeine in an entire bottle of Mountain Dew probably contributed to your paranoia, as most stimulants do when you're tripping.
Its a very down to earth trip and things that are there already will warp. I've never had shit just pop out of nowhere or step into the land of gnomes going through a doorway, but maybe we haven't dosed high enuff
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Re: mescaline for beginners [Re: Adden]
#2886726 - 07/13/04 03:55 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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Sun-dried Ptorch? I only tried mescaline once, and I didn't try and boil it down, with a friend and at his direction... needless to say, I don't take his advice anymore. But I want to do it again.
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it was 20 a hit a Bonnaroo, my source had it in a capsul, one of my friends bought some that was shitty.
i did it at the Praxis concert and it was a blur, the whole bonnaroo was a blur because of the excess drugs w/no food or water.
anyway i talked like johnny depp in Fear and Loathing for about 12 hours and couldnt help it at all. all i remember was Buckethead going wild on stage and walking... and mud... and.. other stuff
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Re: mescaline for beginners [Re: acoostick]
#2887184 - 07/13/04 06:32 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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I have been wanting to try mescaline so bad now. Where I live no dealers have it and I can't really go through the extraction process, so I am shit out of luck.
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Re: mescaline for beginners [Re: acoostick]
#2887247 - 07/13/04 06:48 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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what you took was not mescaline, you will never see it sold at concerts, (unless it's in cacti form) very sorry.
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Re: mescaline for beginners [Re: gdman]
#2887495 - 07/13/04 08:20 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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So you can't get mescaline unless from a cacti?
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gdman
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basicly, you can excract is, but people who extract it useually keep it in their head stash, it can be sythed, but you will probably never find it. Keep in mind the dose of mescaline is around 300 mg, so if you get a cap with only a small amount of powder, you know it's some rc. Now it can be cut to make it look like more, just keep in mind that people who sell mesc are 99% of the time selling some rc.
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Re: mescaline for beginners [Re: gdman]
#2889850 - 07/14/04 01:31 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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whatever man it was from this group of people from new mexico who "said" that they know this hippie who has kept some peyot growing since the seventies in his junkyard...(but the dude only had 6 cacti)
i believed them, they werent the kind of people to lie, they camped right by us and we got very spiritual early in the mornin
i believe them and what i took was a big capsul with something in it that wasnt powder or crystals? it was a white "somthing" (i didnt really look at it too well..) i thiink i remember a little orange or red in it??
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Re: mescaline for beginners [Re: acoostick]
#2890053 - 07/14/04 02:14 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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thats kinda wierd that the mescaline didnt give you a spiritual experience because native americans are allowed to use it for religious ceremonies, so they probably take it to highten the spiritual element of the ceremony. idk im just talking
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Re: mescaline for beginners [Re: acoostick]
#2890062 - 07/14/04 02:17 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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I dunno, I really doubt that what you was the real deal, if he only had six buttons, he certainly would not have enough to dose a bunch of people, a dose would be over 6. You'd be suprised as to who will scam you.
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Re: mescaline for beginners [Re: gdman]
#2890092 - 07/14/04 02:22 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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over a period of time cant the cacti produce more buttons or does it take a while?
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Re: mescaline for beginners [Re: acoostick]
#2890096 - 07/14/04 02:23 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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i forgot
the peyote scene in Young Guns is classic
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Re: mescaline for beginners [Re: acoostick]
#2890114 - 07/14/04 02:26 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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it takes a while, the scean is not like it used to be, people selling bunk drugs, it's a shame, bunk acid, opium, mescaline.
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gdman
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well bunk or something else, such as an rc.
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Re: mescaline for beginners [Re: gdman]
#2890169 - 07/14/04 02:37 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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if sum1 is claiming a white powder is "mescaline" it is probably 2c-i because like mescaline it is a Phenethylamine...and IMO a 2c-i trip feels almost the same as actual mesc..
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my thought process was that drugs are just chemicals in affecting your brain and senses nothing more. it wasnt like the spirtual magical thoughts i get on mushrooms.
that was all in you, bro. perhaps it was a test? to get you to think, "wait, no way is that right, we are definitely spiritual beings, not just these bodies." then hopefully get you on a spiritual level of thinking, like you say you get on mushies.
and hey man, the presence you felt with you or behind you was probably really there, but you couldnt see em with physical eyes, but could sure feel them i think that it was your spirit guide
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Re: mescaline for beginners [Re: acoostick]
#2890632 - 07/14/04 04:25 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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it is posible that he bought those caps thinking it was the real deal.
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I had a similar experience off Peruvian Torch. It was very visual, but not outlandish, empathogenic and a strong euphoric body high. My thoughts were fairly normal and calm, but as it peaked they seemed to get very 'fractalated' and I started to feel very far away from reality.
Edited by Divided_Sky (07/16/04 09:03 PM)
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Last night i prepared 20" of san pedro, using the same steps as above. Since it was like midnight by the time i finished cooking it down to one shot glass, i decided to wait until today to drink it. This is my first time trying a hallucinogenic (well technically second, but last time i didn't boil the 10" down enough so I didn't really experience much). It's been about an hour since I drank the stuff. I'll let you know how it goes.
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Re: mescaline for beginners [Re: An0n]
#2898338 - 07/16/04 08:55 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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Just one shot glass? You really boiled it down. We had to choke down one and a half tall glasses! My freinds and I also finished cooking it around midnight, but we just drank it then. And it was also my first time really tripping.
You should have a great time. Be around people you feel comfortable and focus on feelings of love and peace. Relax and let your mind be spacious and calm. If you are feeling it, you will enjoy it. Take care.
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Re: mescaline for beginners [Re: Divided_Sky]
#2899196 - 07/17/04 04:21 AM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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I had one of the most blissful and enlightening times ever. It started off with a slight buzz and then some nausia which i was prepared for (pepto helped i believe). Listened to some trance for about an hour and half, then about 3 hours or so i was "forced" to go outside (friends cooking got to me, eggs, blah), and even though i wanted to go outside, i just didn't want to leave my music behind, ya know. I walked to the park which is about a mile away, then i justed walked around really soaking up all the great atmosphere. It was a perfect day, so there were a lot of people there playing all sorts of sports. i spent most of my time near the tennis courts watching these two really good guys play. i was in a way disappointed, because i still hadn't experienced any visuals, then as i was staring at the cement floor it started to move, it was awesome. i took advantage of it, because i had complete control. it's a lot like staring at the pictures where they form something if you look at them for awhile, but i could do it with anything, off and on. the rest of the night was feeled with this very warm blissful feeling, which i've experienced before on ecstasy, but it lasted so much longer, still going, a little. i highly recommend this drug. just remember to boil it down as far as possible. brown syrup is the goal.
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Re: mescaline for beginners [Re: Divided_Sky]
#2900022 - 07/17/04 02:53 PM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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I use an alcohol extraction that leaves me with about a teaspoon or so of thick syrup as one dose. The only way that I'd change my method of consumption is to go through with a full extraction to get mesc crystals.
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I can't wait to try mescaline someday, it sounds more chilled out and relaxed than other trips.
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Re: mescaline for beginners [Re: An0n]
#2902164 - 07/18/04 11:10 AM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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yes boiling it to one shot is k3y,so is immediatly chasing the shot with something
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Re: mescaline for beginners [Re: Ekstaza]
#3083109 - 09/02/04 02:09 PM (19 years, 7 months ago) |
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How exactly do you get mescaline crystals? Also, could you give a link to the alcohol extraction method? I checked out erowid but they but couldn't find the alcohol extraction.
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Re: mescaline for beginners [Re: theocean06]
#3083469 - 09/02/04 03:37 PM (19 years, 7 months ago) |
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I just soak powdered dried peruvian torch in 190 proof grain alcohol for a few days and filter off the alcohol. I usually repeat this step at least one more time.
Next combine the alcohol and evaporate it using a hot water bath(big pot with water on stove and smaller container with alcohol/mescaline solution inside) making sure not to let the alcohol boil over. It can superboil very quickly so you must not leave this by itself.
It will reduce down to a thick tar-like sludge.
Remembering how much you started with is the best way to judge dosage. If you used 100 gms dried cactus powder, then you should have 2 or three dosages. Split it up accordingly.
As far making crystalls, you need to do an acid/base extraction of the cactus so that you end up with mescaline salts in the form of mescaline hcl or mescaline sulfate. You'll need to prepair for this and I'd suggest not trying it half assed. Google it up and you should find a TEK for mescaline extraction.
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Re: mescaline for beginners [Re: acoostick]
#27357740 - 06/21/21 03:20 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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Depp was talking exactly like Hunter S. Thompson.... you can hear it even when reading his books ... you must have been channeling
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Re: mescaline for beginners [Re: badroy]
#27358667 - 06/22/21 10:09 AM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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Nice thread, good report KingOftheThing
Do you have a pic you could post of the cactus?
I have a few growing, really excited to try them when they mature.
Also regarding spirituality it’s not only the set and setting but how we are all culturally conditioned that effects how ‘spiritual’ at trip is. Not saying you can’t have an incredible breakthrough but think how different it must be for someone who has been taught since day one that everything has energy and a spirit, and then the ritual ceremony happens. I feel like it must really help guide you into that space.
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Re: mescaline for beginners [Re: gdman]
#27362546 - 06/25/21 10:05 AM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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gdman said: what you took was not mescaline, you will never see it sold at concerts, (unless it's in cacti form) very sorry.
I amnot privy to the street drug scene anymore, but in the 70's, mescaline was available for a short while in large clear capsules filled with brown powder. I know it was extracted mescaline as this was pre-research chemicals, and the effects were identical to all the peyote buttons that were available and that we did frequently.
At the same time, weak doses of LSD in microdot form were often hawked as mescaline. They were not.
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Re: mescaline for beginners [Re: Neurotech]
#27362562 - 06/25/21 10:19 AM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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Speaking of peyote, we once had a party when one of us got ordained in the Native American Church and obtained a large supply of buttons. We cleaned out the white tufts that make you sick (used to say it was strychnine? I don't know), toasted the buttons, ground em up and put in capsules. Much better than chewing the buttons which we had usually done. I had 9 buttons in 11 capsules. I advise against red gel caps, lol, as it looked as though I was hemorrhaging when I puked an hour later. As soon as I puked I was tripping hard, but gently. Mescaline has a very natural, non-scary feel to it. There were plenty of visuals. At one point, my friend and I looked at each other and I quite suddenlty saw streams of white light energy running through his entire body, like the chi traveling through the medians. At the same moment, he had the same experience looking at me. We both jumped when it happened. Very memorable night.
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Re: mescaline for beginners [Re: badroy]
#27363043 - 06/25/21 04:14 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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badroy said: Depp was talking exactly like Hunter S. Thompson.... you can hear it even when reading his books ... you must have been channeling
straight up got this one from the deep corner of shroomery, 16 years ago is a long time ago
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Re: mescaline for beginners [Re: gdman]
#27405633 - 07/28/21 12:46 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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As far as whether a capsule could have been real extracted or synthetic mescaline, its unlikely, but possible. In 1977 we had access to chocolate mescaline capsules. I know they were mescaline because we used to do buttons all the time.
Once, we toasted and ground the buttons and put into gelcaps. I had nine buttons in 11 capsules. Nice.
Edited by Neurotech (07/28/21 12:48 PM)
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Re: mescaline for beginners [Re: Neurotech]
#27406196 - 07/28/21 07:55 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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You can order an old book called peyote and other psychoactive cacti for cheap.
It's not a great read, but it does have the basic acid/base extraction that is easy to follow. And breefly covers all the different cactus that are active.
It doesn't go into the next step that you would need to do to get true, lab grade mescaline. But the basic extraction is what most people use anyway.
It's just a cool old paperback to put on the shelf with a big photo of a peyote button on the cover and the word peyote in big orange letters.
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