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Re: Canada and Fox News. - freedom of speech? [Re: Innvertigo]
    #2898188 - 07/16/04 07:33 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

So the question has to be asked: Why does Canada stifle freedom of speech/press?

While you're at it, ask this question as well: why does the USA stifle freedom of speech/press?

www.canoe.ca/Television/jul14_fox-cp.html :smirk:


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Re: Canada and Fox News. - freedom of speech? [Re: trendal]
    #2898450 - 07/16/04 09:51 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

Where in that did you get the impression that the American government was preventing the airing of O' Canada?

The American government does restrict what media is imported into the US. The difference is we Americans are pissed off about it. You Canadians don't seem to care when your government tries to controll what you see and hear.


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Re: Canada and Fox News. - freedom of speech? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #2898459 - 07/16/04 10:00 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

You Canadians don't seem to care when your government tries to controll what you see and hear.

*control

I try to take things like this on a case-by-case basis...as forming a generality for such topics is probably a very silly idea. So no, in this case I don't care that my government is trying to block a foreign media :wink:


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Re: Canada and Fox News. - freedom of speech? [Re: trendal]
    #2898491 - 07/16/04 10:16 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

That's pathetic.


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Re: Canada and Fox News. - freedom of speech? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #2898507 - 07/16/04 10:21 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

If you say so... :smirk:


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Re: Canada and Fox News. - freedom of speech? [Re: Innvertigo]
    #2898613 - 07/16/04 11:09 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

Maybe they want protect what little canadian culture we have left.

Frankly I see nothing wrong with protecting canadain culture, and fox news wouldnt really go over well here anyway(the most right wing canadian ,is a pinko commie leftist, to the most extreme right american)perhaps a SLIGHT exageration :wink:

Canada has given up so much already because of free trade, you practially OWN our energy , and when you look at the free trade deals up close.

WE got screwed. :thumbdown:
(yes its america has suffered to, but the real pain for america isnt from Nafta its from the WTO, but for Canada Nafta has been a nightmare. (softwood lumber is just ONE example)

We have ENOUGH american culture already, personally(and I have meet MANY people from all walks of life who also feel this way) I could do with less.... honestly  I think you might be suprised HOW AMERICAN our cable is.
(digital cable...which is the new big thing, has even more american content then, regualr)

Any canadain that CLAIMS that the right doesnt get a fair chance in Canada is retarded. :wink:

Theres CNBC(and its pile of vile shows)  Gloabal Media(IS VERY RIGHT WING) and is the largesdt media company in canada, it owns newspapers, TV stations etc.. all quite "RIGHT".


Canadas media corporations have TONS of power, and they STILL want to do away with the CBC , if anything media in Canada is already right wing.
(by canadian standards)

http://www.canwestwatch.org/
http://www.mediacarta.org/2_minute.php



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Re: Canada and Fox News. - freedom of speech? [Re: Psilocybeingzz]
    #2898962 - 07/17/04 01:25 AM (19 years, 6 months ago)

and of course, you can get fox news on sattelite!

"Maybe they want protect what little canadian culture we have left."

I dont agree with this though, I think the Canadian identity is far more developed than it was 15 years ago. 15 years ago we were the 51st state, now we are that horrid socialist drug-haven to the north.


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Re: Canada and Fox News. - freedom of speech? [Re: trendal]
    #2904571 - 07/19/04 04:59 AM (19 years, 6 months ago)

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why does the USA stifle freedom of speech/press?




sure thing ace, once my question is answered i'll jump right on that and ask the same question. Why don't you start a thread aboot it.


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Re: Canada and Fox News. - freedom of speech? [Re: trendal]
    #2904574 - 07/19/04 05:03 AM (19 years, 6 months ago)

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I try to take things like this on a case-by-case basis...as forming a generality for such topics is probably a very silly idea. So no, in this case I don't care that my government is trying to block a foreign media




wow, so let me get this straight. If the US blocks freedom of speech/press it's a travisty and evil, but if Canoodia does it it should be taken on a case by case basis. Wow, I feel sorry for you.


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Re: Canada and Fox News. - freedom of speech? [Re: Psilocybeingzz]
    #2904583 - 07/19/04 05:14 AM (19 years, 6 months ago)

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Maybe they want protect what little canadian culture we have left.




yes, Canoodians are fragile peaople and NEED to be protected. :rolleyes:

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Canada has given up so much already because of free trade, you practially OWN our energy , and when you look at the free trade deals up close.




What's your culture?  How does it differ from the US?

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WE got screwed.  (yes its america has suffered to, but the real pain for america isnt from Nafta its from the WTO, but for Canada Nafta has been a nightmare. (softwood lumber is just ONE example)




tell that to the workers in Texas which one has affected them more, NAFTA has affected the US more than Canada i'd presume but I have to ask why are you bringing this up?  This has nothing to do with Media being shut out.  I wish Canoodia was free. :frown:

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We have ENOUGH american culture already, personally(and I have meet MANY people from all walks of life who also feel this way) I could do with less.... honestly I think you might be suprised HOW AMERICAN our cable is.
(digital cable...which is the new big thing, has even more american content then, regualr)




Digital cable isn't that new.  I've had it for the last few years.

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Any canadain that CLAIMS that the right doesnt get a fair chance in Canada is retarded.




I personally couldn't care less, i'm just asking the question that many Canoodians here haven't had a reasonable answer to.  I'll say that i'm upset that we, in the US, don't get Al-Jezera (sp).  Not sure of the reason really.
What I find funny is that many Canoodians have no problem letting news of a left wing lean but if there's an alternate view (and yes they've been right in their reporting) they say it's good for the country to be blind..er, I mean left out of the country to protect Canoodian "culture" whatever that means.


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Re: Canada and Fox News. - freedom of speech? [Re: Positronius]
    #2904585 - 07/19/04 05:15 AM (19 years, 6 months ago)

no, you're still the 51st state.


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    #2911332 - 07/21/04 05:01 AM (19 years, 6 months ago)

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  I don't think the fact that Canada can't get a certain news channel currently means the country is overall less free than us




I was playing devils advocate.  With the exception of your dismal health care, i'd say that Canada is just as free as the US.

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Personally I don't see any Canadians here promoting their country as a Utopia here




:what:

ok, maybe not utopia but close to it.  For those people who have never been to the US (listening to Canadians on this site) you'd think that we have check points, ethnic cleansing and worse.  I've been to Canada many times and didn't see much of a difference between the two countries with all policies (with the exception of strip bars and drug laws).

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I see some Canadians exposing your view that they somehow think they are freer than us and aren't because they don't allow Fox News in Canada (a claim which apparently we haven't even figured out the actual logistics and validity of yet) as the idiocy that it is.




Why's it an Idiocy? We've figured it out, noone in Canada (or at least on this site), with the exception of satelite tv, have access to Fox News media.  It's really not a big deal but I just find it funny that many of them claim how unfree we are and how biased America is when it comes to media sources.  I'm claiming that at least we have both sides.

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That was weak. Even if they can't watch Fox News, their government doesn't feel the need to monitor the books they read. 




not their books, just their news. whew, well in that case. :rolleyes:


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Re: Canada and Fox News. - freedom of speech? [Re: Innvertigo]
    #2911388 - 07/21/04 05:37 AM (19 years, 6 months ago)

I can definately concur that canadians online are rather 'vocal' about how flawlessly perfect canada is, and how the US is a steaming pile of racist shit with ovens that we burn niggers and drug addicts in.

etc.

Strangely enough, so far every canuck I've met has been rather cool in person and seemed like they would fit right in my neiighborhood.

except that aboot and eh shit.. :wink:


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Re: Canada and Fox News. - freedom of speech? [Re: Barbi]
    #2911391 - 07/21/04 05:41 AM (19 years, 6 months ago)

ha, I have no idea what you're talking aboot.

I have no ill feelings for Canada nor Canadians. I just don't care for hypocrisy.


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Re: Canada and Fox News. - freedom of speech? [Re: Barbi]
    #3741044 - 02/06/05 02:35 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Canada and Fox News. - freedom of speech? [Re: Psilocybeingzz]
    #3741055 - 02/06/05 02:38 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

The natives THEY got screwed, its THEIR culture where there isnt much left of. Neither americans nor canadians have any culture other then showing of their guns of fear and wasting life.


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Re: Canada and Fox News. - freedom of speech? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #3741063 - 02/06/05 02:40 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

yeah your good old ignorance. something to be proud of "man"... :grin:


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Re: Canada and Fox News. - freedom of speech? [Re: MushroomFriend]
    #3741099 - 02/06/05 02:50 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Baby_Hitler does not always mean what he says. Sometimes it is to stimulate conversation or steer the discussion in a certain direction. I would try to find an example but I am too lazy.


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Re: Canada and Fox News. - freedom of speech? [Re: Innvertigo]
    #3741182 - 02/06/05 03:09 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

The CRTC approved Fox News in Canada.

http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2004/11/18/fox_crtc041118.html

Google would have answered the original question for you in seconds flat.

The application was originally rejected because a "Fox News Canada" was in the works, but I guess that fell through and they've decided to allow Fox News to broadcast.


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