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InvisibleEvolving
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Re: Would Bush risk his own country for votes? [Re: mntlfngrs]
    #2889998 - 07/14/04 02:00 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

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If there is an NWO I guarantee it is both sides of the isle. If the left isn't taking away economic freedoms then it is the right erroding the constitution and taking social freedoms. They use the publics tendency to swing too far in the opposite direction after a crisis to talk you out of your freedoms, talking about being safe. Fuck I don't want or need to be totally safe and secure. I love the quote about if you are willing to give them up, you don't deserve them.

Fuck the left and the right, they are opposite sides of the same coin!



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Re: Would Bush risk his own country for votes? [Re: Tasty_Smurf_House]
    #2890917 - 07/14/04 05:56 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Why on earth is Bush being such a fuck?

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Re: Would Bush risk his own country for votes? [Re: Tasty_Smurf_House]
    #2891306 - 07/14/04 08:26 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Maybe it's genetic. He comes from a long line of fucks.


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Re: Would Bush risk his own country for votes? [Re: mntlfngrs]
    #2891399 - 07/14/04 09:24 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

what makes you think flushing out terrorists is at all possible? and if it is, why did we divert funds and manpower to iraq where there were none? Did Iraq and Al-Queda have an established connection? sure they did. it was a we-want-nothing-to-do with each other sort of relationship ... if we had a president who *wanted* to rid the world of terrorists, osama would be caught. period. these terrorists are given way too much credit. Just like the commies were played out to be more powerful than they actually were.

it's all about fear. not safety. if we felt safe, bush would be out of a job.


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Re: Would Bush risk his own country for votes? [Re: Divided_Sky]
    #2891798 - 07/14/04 11:20 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Duh. If the chatter they say is picking up and the government let a major terrorist event happen then people would think Bush could not keep the U.S. safe and the measures that he put in place aren't worth a bucket of crap so lets get this guy out of office. But if the plot was foiled on US territory then people would say he foiled it, giving him a boost in the polls. Its kinda common sense. Basically they are trying to safegaurd their ass. A change in the HS warning is a double edged sword because you damned if you do and damned if you don't.

Edited by Meat_Log_Smurf (07/16/04 03:37 PM)

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Re: Would Bush risk his own country for votes? [Re: voice]
    #2893085 - 07/15/04 10:44 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

It is not uncommon for two enemies to collaborate against a third more powerful common enemy. This collaboration is a temporary, single purpose agreement. The enemy of my enemy is my friend thing.

While the concrete link my not have been evident or even existed at the time the potential was certainly there. Especially considering that Osama may have been willing to give concessions to Saddam if he was desperate enough post Afghanistan.
We are in a preemptive policy period right now (right or wrong) and that means we are dealing with and looking at/for potentials and possibilities. I think that was a big part of the decision to go to Iraq. The problem with this policy (one problem anyway) is that it is hard to justify after the fact.


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Re: Would Bush risk his own country for votes? [Re: mntlfngrs]
    #2893125 - 07/15/04 11:00 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

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mntlfngrs said:We are in a preemptive policy period right now (right or wrong) and that means we are dealing with and looking at/for potentials and possibilities. [...] The problem with this policy (one problem anyway) is that it is hard to justify after the fact.


Well then, let's consider George W. Bush might be tempted to do very stupid and dangerous things in order to cling to power and may lie (yet again) to the American people and Congress etc. Start impeachment right now, on a preemptive base (if his past misconduct is not enough yet). Now that won't be too hard to justify after the fact, will it? :grin:

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Re: Would Bush risk his own country for votes? [Re: Aldous]
    #2893132 - 07/15/04 11:04 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

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mntlfngrs said:We are in a preemptive policy period right now (right or wrong) and that means we are dealing with and looking at/for potentials and possibilities. [...] The problem with this policy (one problem anyway) is that it is hard to justify after the fact.


Well then, let's consider George W. Bush might be tempted to do very stupid and dangerous things in order to cling to power and may lie (yet again) to the American people and Congress etc. Start impeachment right now, on a preemptive base (if his past misconduct is not enough yet). Now that won't be too hard to justify after the fact, will it? :grin:




Sure, then we can have Cheney for the balance of the term. Not long but that guy scares the hell out of me. If you don't like Bush then you certainly wouldn't want Cheney in there for any amount of time.


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Re: Would Bush risk his own country for votes? [Re: Cyber]
    #2897196 - 07/16/04 01:41 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

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Oh and one more note on EO 11000 signed by:
JOHN F. KENNEDY

THE WHITE HOUSE,
February 16, 1962.




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Cyber said:
All of these were renewed on June 6, 1994 under EO# 12919





I think I covered it.




Since you won't answer my question about who was in office when EO# 12919 was signed, I will.

William J. Clinton

THE WHITE HOUSE,
June 3, 1994.

So it was the two most highly esteemed Dems of all time, the ones that you hold is such high regard that set us up for tyranny.

What say you?


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Re: Would Bush risk his own country for votes? [Re: mntlfngrs]
    #2897741 - 07/16/04 04:45 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

What did Bill do now?

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Re: Would Bush risk his own country for votes? [Re: Tasty_Smurf_House]
    #2908521 - 07/20/04 12:53 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

He fooled Cyber into thinking that the EO's that he reauthorized were actually reauthorized by Bush. Typical political slight of hand.


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Re: Would Bush risk his own country for votes? [Re: mntlfngrs]
    #2909910 - 07/20/04 07:34 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

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He fooled Cyber into thinking that the EO's that he reauthorized were actually reauthorized by Bush. Typical political slight of hand.




Hold IT! I never said that Bush reauthorized the EO's! I simply stated that they were reauthorized! This crap is being done by both parties. I say get rid of them both!

Besides I vote Libertarian and have for years.

Edited by Cyber (07/20/04 07:36 PM)

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Re: Would Bush risk his own country for votes? [Re: Cyber]
    #2911934 - 07/21/04 10:34 AM (19 years, 9 months ago)

Granted, you didn't specificaly say it but you worded you post in such a way as to imply it. You replied to a post said bush this and that , started your post with bush Sr. this and that and then said "top it of with..." .

Seems like you were trying to mislead people to me. You could be a politician.


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Re: Would Bush risk his own country for votes? [Re: mntlfngrs]
    #2912082 - 07/21/04 11:22 AM (19 years, 9 months ago)

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Seems like you were trying to mislead people to me. You could be a politician.




Ill admit that it could have been a little misleading. But that would depend on your definition of the word "to". All of this is beside the point as I never inhaled!
Although little was accomplished during my term. I promise you that on my next term there will be "No New Taxes", "Free Health Care for all", "Free education", and "Free food" for all who ask. All you need do is reelect me! :smile:

Alexander Tyler (a Scottish history professor at The University of Edinburgh) had this to say about "The Fall of The Athenian Republic" some 2,000 years prior. "A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, (which is) always followed by a dictatorship."

It would appear as if we have reached the point where people are voting for the person that promisees the most from the public treasury! Next stop is dictatorship and both parties are making sure they have enough in place to make it stick!

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Re: Would Bush risk his own country for votes? [Re: Cyber]
    #2912271 - 07/21/04 12:40 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

Makes sense to me.


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Re: Would Bush risk his own country for votes? [Re: Cyber]
    #2912643 - 07/21/04 02:30 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

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It would appear as if we have reached the point where people are voting for the person that promisees the most from the public treasury!



We reached that point years ago.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: Would Bush risk his own country for votes? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2912839 - 07/21/04 03:39 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

... and it keeps getting worse.


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Re: Would Bush risk his own country for votes? [Re: Evolving]
    #2912874 - 07/21/04 03:50 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

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Evolving said:
... and it keeps getting worse.



Sadly.


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