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OfflineTasty_Smurf_House
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Would Bush risk his own country for votes?
    #2884818 - 07/13/04 04:34 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

A thought came to mind today.

I've been hearing lately about Bush saying how their might be an attack, they've been saying it for months. They are so adamant that there will be an attack. Someone on the news said his ratings have slipped under 50% and they said something about Bush saying how they are going to be attacked.

This worries me. Not because I think that they will be attacked, but that Bush will do something to ensure an attack. Would Bush goes as far as to somehow make a deal with someone, offer or give them something so that he can control the attack, choose it, etc. He could have it all planned out before it even happens, tell everyone he told them so, and get backing from people who think "Hey maybe he should have invaded Iraq after all"

Just a thought.


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Re: Would Bush risk his own country for votes? [Re: Tasty_Smurf_House]
    #2884849 - 07/13/04 04:49 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

No deals to make here, there are enough people willing to offer their lives to kill a shitload of Americans on American territory. The only thing the administration has to do, is make sure the attack would take place on a massive enough scale and be rightly timed. All they have to do is make conditions favorable for it to happen.

[Like the first time...? :shocked:]


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Re: Would Bush risk his own country for votes? [Re: Tasty_Smurf_House]
    #2884890 - 07/13/04 05:18 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Just to show I'm not merely daydreaming, read this article and others at  http://www.globalresearch.ca.
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One year before 9/11, the Project for a New American Century (PNAC) called for "some catastrophic and catalyzing event, like a new Pearl Harbor," which would serve to galvanize US public opinion in support of a war agenda. (See http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/NAC304A.html )
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The PNAC's reference to a "catastrophic and catalyzing event" echoes a similar statement by David Rockefeller to the United Nations Business Council in 1994:
"We are on the verge of global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis and the nations will accept the New World Order."

Similarly, in the words Zbigniew Brzezinski in his book, The Grand Chessboard:.
"?it may find it more difficult to fashion a consensus [in America] on foreign policy issues, except in the circumstances of a truly massive and widely perceived direct external threat."


And then look at today's agenda:
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General Franks, who led the military campaign into Iraq, pointed recently (October 2003) to the role of a "massive casualty-producing event" to muster support for the imposition of military rule in America. (See General Tommy Franks calls for Repeal of US Constitution, November 2003, http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/EDW311A.html ).
Franks identifies the precise scenario whereby military rule will be established:
"a terrorist, massive, casualty-producing event [will occur] somewhere in the Western world - it may be in the United States of America - that causes our population to question our own Constitution and to begin to militarize our country in order to avoid a repeat of another mass casualty-producing event." (Ibid)


And on December 22, 2003, Tom Ridge (Mister Homeland Security) said: "If we go to red, we close down the country". Add to this that the Pentagon is actively lobbying to get the 1878 Posse Comitatus Act cancelled, which ensures the separation of the military from police and judicial matters. They're actually trying to militarize the country.

Now see all this in the light of recent news (warning of an upcoming attack, attempts to provide a legal base for the delay of elections), and the picture will get somewhat clearer.  :eek:


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Re: Would Bush risk his own country for votes? [Re: Aldous]
    #2884895 - 07/13/04 05:26 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Holy fucking shit. I can honestly say that's fucked up. I'm so so so so glad I live in Canada.

I love Canada.


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Re: Would Bush risk his own country for votes? [Re: Tasty_Smurf_House]
    #2884908 - 07/13/04 05:36 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

bush = the new nero


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Re: Would Bush risk his own country for votes? [Re: AhronZombi]
    #2884920 - 07/13/04 05:40 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Sorry for the lack of knowledge on the subject. Nero? Sounds like some Greek or Roman shite.


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Re: Would Bush risk his own country for votes? [Re: Tasty_Smurf_House]
    #2884924 - 07/13/04 05:44 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Ah, he's the Roman emperor who burned down much of Rome. :smirk:


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Re: Would Bush risk his own country for votes? [Re: Tasty_Smurf_House]
    #2884927 - 07/13/04 05:46 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Nero Claudius Drusus Germanicus - a very nice guy by anyones standards  :wink:


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Re: Would Bush risk his own country for votes? [Re: adrug]
    #2884930 - 07/13/04 05:47 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Why on earth would he burn down Rome?


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Re: Would Bush risk his own country for votes? [Re: Tasty_Smurf_House]
    #2884933 - 07/13/04 05:50 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)



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Re: Would Bush risk his own country for votes? [Re: Tasty_Smurf_House]
    #2884935 - 07/13/04 05:53 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Its only a story, nobody knows for certain if he was responsible for the burning of Rome.

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Nero was fair-haired, with weak blue eyes, a fat neck, a pot belly and a body which smelt and was covered with spots. He usually appeared in public in a sort of dressing gown without a belt, a scarf around his neck and no shoes.
In character he was a strange mix of paradoxes; artistic, sporting, brutal, weak, sensual, erratic, extravagant, sadistic, bisexual - and later in life almost certainly deranged.




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After the fire he used a vast area between the Palatine and the Equiline hills, which had been utterly destroyed by the fire to build his 'Golden Palace' ('Domus Aurea'). This was a huge area, ranging from the Portico of Livia to the Circus Maximus (close to where the fire was said to have started), which now was turned into pleasure gardens for the emperor, even an artificial lake being created in its centre. The temple of the deified Claudius was not yet completed and - being in the way of Nero's plans, it was demolished.

Judging by the sheer scale of this complex, it was obvious it could never have been built, were it not have been for the fire. And so quite naturally Romans had their suspicions about who had actually started it.




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Re: Would Bush risk his own country for votes? [Re: Tasty_Smurf_House]
    #2884963 - 07/13/04 06:17 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Waht do you mean "would"?


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Re: Would Bush risk his own country for votes? [Re: Swami]
    #2885366 - 07/13/04 11:35 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

No shit. Replace the word "would" with the words "when will", and we have a winner.


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Re: Would Bush risk his own country for votes? [Re: Aldous]
    #2885573 - 07/13/04 12:45 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I welcome the new world order with open arms.


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Re: Would Bush risk his own country for votes? [Re: afoaf]
    #2885953 - 07/13/04 02:10 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Some won't be able to greet with open arms.

Armless Iraqi Boy's Operation Postponed

(CBS) Doctors treating a 12-year old Iraqi boy who lost his arms and was severely burned in the bombing of Baghdad postponed a skin-graft operation on him Monday but said his condition was improving.

Ali Ismaeel Abbas was home in Baghdad with his family one night when a missile blew apart his life, killing his pregnant mother, his father, brother and aunt. Ten family members in all, were killed.

He was sent to the Saud A. Albabtain Center for Burns and Plastic Surgery on Wednesday and received temporary skin grafts.

Those were to have been replaced by a permanent skin-graft operation, but that was postponed until later in the week because "we are not happy with the burn area," surgeon Imad Najada said


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Re: Would Bush risk his own country for votes? [Re: Swami]
    #2886086 - 07/13/04 02:41 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

If the terrorists are smart they will avoid any attacks untill after the election. They desperately want Kerry in office and will do anything to get Bush out.

Say,, that sounds like some people I know.


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Re: Would Bush risk his own country for votes? [Re: mntlfngrs]
    #2886143 - 07/13/04 02:53 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

yeah everyone who disagrees with bush is a terrorist...

say, that sounds like an adminstration we all know.


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Re: Would Bush risk his own country for votes? [Re: John]
    #2886426 - 07/13/04 04:15 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I didn't say that.
Would you like to point out a flaw in my statement?


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Re: Would Bush risk his own country for votes? [Re: mntlfngrs]
    #2886576 - 07/13/04 05:05 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

i never said you did.

how do you know what "they" want?

are you a terrorist :shocked:


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Re: Would Bush risk his own country for votes? [Re: John]
    #2886590 - 07/13/04 05:08 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Common sense
They will be able to do what they want if Kerry is in.


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