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Swami
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Is sleep necessary?

#2884779 - 07/13/04 02:01 AM (19 years, 9 months ago)

Some of you may have noted that I never sleep and respond to most all posts accurately and succinctly and within a time frame not possible for a human. I am either:

a. an insomniac with no life and the fastest typist on the planet.

b. a robotic program emulation of a human.

c. an alien.

d. highly evolved and past the need for sleep.

e. a group of people masquerading as one entitiy.

When one is constantly in touch with the ground of being, no sleep is necessary.

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Edited by Swami (07/13/04 01:46 PM)

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Re: Is sleep necessary?

[Re: Swami]
#2884783 - 07/13/04 02:02 AM (19 years, 9 months ago)

I don't think it has to do with "ground of being," or whatever that means. Some people just require less sleep than others.

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Re: Is sleep necessary?

[Re: silversoul7]
#2884863 - 07/13/04 02:58 AM (19 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah I think I heard Jay Leno say in an interview that he sleeps just 4 hours a night and that is enough for him. I need like 9-10 hours.

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Re: Is sleep necessary?

[Re: Swami]
#2884868 - 07/13/04 03:00 AM (19 years, 9 months ago)

maybe you work nights like I do...

or maybe you are a vampire...

maybe you're riding the snake...

Riiidddeeee the snake

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Re: Is sleep necessary?

[Re: Swami]
#2884899 - 07/13/04 03:31 AM (19 years, 9 months ago)

Prove it: how long can you stay up for? :wink:

:wink:

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Re: Is sleep necessary?

[Re: Swami]
#2884916 - 07/13/04 03:39 AM (19 years, 9 months ago)

I sleep maybe a few hours every few days if im lucky, that's all I can get. But I function just as well as anyone else.

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Re: Is sleep necessary?

[Re: Swami]
#2884939 - 07/13/04 03:58 AM (19 years, 9 months ago)

Sleep? What is that?

I almost said it was unnecessary, but then I remembered that I actually enjoy what sleep I can get.

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Swami
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Re: Is sleep necessary?

[Re: trendal]
#2884953 - 07/13/04 04:10 AM (19 years, 9 months ago)

Prove it: how long can you stay up for?

You will have to ask my girlfriend. I think my record is 13.018 seconds... Oh, wait! That is not what you meant, is it?

I will post a picture of my made bed, unslept in since 1979.

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Re: Is sleep necessary?

[Re: Swami]
#2885113 - 07/13/04 06:41 AM (19 years, 9 months ago)

I had an experience once where I thought a 5th dimensional being named Lynda was communicating with me, she said all kinds of crazy things like sleep is unecessary and that everytime someone falls asleep they fall back into ignorance and if you go beyond the need for sleep you become 5th dimensional, which is a constant state of bliss...

Oh, and I wasn't on drugs at the time, either. :tongue:

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Re: Is sleep necessary?

[Re: Adamist]
#2885493 - 07/13/04 10:23 AM (19 years, 9 months ago)

I would say it's all about quality of sleep rather than duration. Some people will sleep for 14 hours and wake up feeling worse then when they went to sleep. Others can sleep for 2 and wake up completely rejuvenated. sleep is good though.. I don't want to hear any bad mouthing of sleep!

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Re: Is sleep necessary?

[Re: Swami]
#2885682 - 07/13/04 11:13 AM (19 years, 9 months ago)

:lol:

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Re: Is sleep necessary?

[Re: Swami]
#2885780 - 07/13/04 11:33 AM (19 years, 9 months ago)

I was tripping the other night and thought, "hey, I am awake... I don't need to sleep. That desire is illusory."

And, I honestly thought I had finally broken through and become enlightened. However, I sobered up and went to bed.

I'm just lucky my delusion wore off and I didn't create a thread claiming such nonsense...

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Re: Is sleep necessary?

[Re: Swami]
#2885876 - 07/13/04 11:51 AM (19 years, 9 months ago)

sometimes I think the dream world is more important (and more real) than the waking world.

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Re: Is sleep necessary?

[Re: Swami]
#2885954 - 07/13/04 12:10 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

I definitely need my sleep. I've only been able to go for about 40 hours without it. I can't stand how my skin begins to itch and my eyes and inner ears start to tingle.

I can do all-nighters just fine. Most recently, I was reading Camus' The Plague and I realized that it was dawn. I tried laying in bed, but I just wasn't tired. So I took a shower and went to the gym. The whole next day was weird. I slept hard the next night.

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Swami
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Re: Is sleep necessary?

[Re: Sclorch]
#2885958 - 07/13/04 12:12 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

I can't stand how my skin begins to itch and my eyes and inner ears start to tingle.

Those are signs from the spirits that you are almost ready to break through.

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Re: Is sleep necessary?

[Re: Swami]
#2885973 - 07/13/04 12:16 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

well, i dont think an alien, robot or evolved being would have said
"emulation a human" rather than "emulating a human"

so probably your just a regular shmoe.

:tongue:

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Re: Is sleep necessary?

[Re: Swami]
#2885987 - 07/13/04 12:17 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

i am very fond of sleep :P i love to dream!
but i find that if i sleep for more than 9 hours, i wake up feeling really crappy, and i always get a headach.
i only get about 6 hours a night.

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Re: Is sleep necessary?

[Re: Moonshoe]
#2886346 - 07/13/04 01:47 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

I am programmed to err 0.75% of the time to look more human.

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Re: Is sleep necessary?

[Re: Swami]
#2886358 - 07/13/04 01:51 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

good save good save, but it kinda ruins the point when you tell us that

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Re: Is sleep necessary?

[Re: Swami]
#2886746 - 07/13/04 04:00 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

I really enjoy getting at least 8 hours of sleep a day, and naps are fun too. Sleep and dreaming are very satisfying, and like DoctorJ said, they seem like extremely important aspects of my existence.

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Re: Is sleep necessary?

[Re: Swami]
#2887222 - 07/13/04 06:41 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

I think i would turn into Tyler Durden if i didnt go to sleep. My imagination and brain fucntions are way too... extreme to play around without sleep.

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Re: Is sleep necessary?

[Re: Swami]
#2887329 - 07/13/04 07:27 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

Perhaps you're all of those...

I NEVER get sleep either. I'm a hardcore insomniac, and it really never interfered with my life negatively. Just recently I started taking extra suppliments of calcium (coral calcium to be specific) and it has helped me sleep MAJORLY since Sunday. The first night I took them, I sleeped from 10PM-9AM and I felt soooo relieved. It felt like I increased by energy level by 10! I could have ran and never stopped that day.

Though last night I only received 3 hours sleep (which is much better than the usual 0 hours).

And perhaps your theory is right, when one is grounded the need for sleep becomes less crucial (though when I hit 11 days w/out sleep, it tends to get unbearable).

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Re: Is sleep necessary?

[Re: Swami]
#2887561 - 07/13/04 08:48 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

I can go for a while on 5 hours of sleep a night, and then about every 6 months, I crash and burn and can't move. That's when it's time for an all-day movie marathon and then 12 hours of sleep. Then I'm ready for another 6 months.

Preferably, I'd sleep 7 hours a night.

Actually, I hate going to bed. That's my major problem. If someone would go to bed with me, I'd probably sleep. :grin:

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Re: Is sleep necessary?

[Re: Swami]
#2887630 - 07/13/04 09:16 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

I require 5 - 6 hours sleep a night. More than that and I feel terrible.

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Re: Is sleep necessary?

[Re: Swami]
#2887896 - 07/13/04 10:57 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

Can you prove that you don't sleep? Can you provide evidence that you do not sleep?

Simply being able to post on a board at any time, responding quickly is surely possible without proving a lack of sleep.

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Re: Is sleep necessary?

[Re: Lizard_King]
#2887976 - 07/13/04 11:22 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

hes just joking man, ive seen him take plenty of time to respond. hes just on ALOT, but not always

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Swami
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Re: Is sleep necessary?

[Re: Lizard_King]
#2888009 - 07/13/04 11:33 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

ply being able to post on a board at any time, responding quickly is surely possible without proving a lack of sleep.

Uh huh. I have a new post detector linked to an alarm and I disturb my sleep just to prove a point to people I don't even know.

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Swami
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Re: Is sleep necessary?

[Re: Moonshoe]
#2888012 - 07/13/04 11:34 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

Some posts are not worth responding to.

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Re: Is sleep necessary?

[Re: Zero7a1]
#2888036 - 07/13/04 11:41 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

DoctorJ said:
sometimes I think the dream world is more important (and more real) than the waking world.

Yes, I agree.

Zero7a1: Yeah that's what I've been thinking of lately ...

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Re: Is sleep necessary?

[Re: Swami]
#2888039 - 07/13/04 11:43 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

i'm one of those fucked up poeple that require 10-12 hours of sleep a night, and i wake up feeling worse than when i went to bed, and usually i don't feel "Awake" till about 4 hours after i wake up. if i don't get that much sleep a couple minutes after i wake up i start feeling sick (runny nose, sore throat, stomache aches, headaches) until i go back to bed or drink 5 cups of water and 5 cups of coffee.

when my sleep is interefered with is literally the only time that i get externally angry, hehehe, i often begin cursing and screaming when awoken and sometimes throw things (at my fucking noisy ass birds!).

there are exceptions to both statements.

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Re: Is sleep necessary?

[Re: Swami]
#2888129 - 07/14/04 12:05 AM (19 years, 9 months ago)

sometimes I enjoy sleep more than waking reality.

When I dream, I am in an environment where everything is under my control. I can build entire realities, and fill them with people, both fictitious and real. I can fly, or turn myself into a car and go real fast. I can have gunslinger showdowns and I always win and get the girl. I cxan create drugs out of thin air and I never have a bad trip. and when my bitchy ex-girlfriend shows up, I just snap my fingers and she turns into a sixpack.

compared to that reality kinda sucks if you ask me. Sometimes I think of reality as a recurring bad dream :smile:

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Re: Is sleep necessary?

[Re: DoctorJ]
#2888463 - 07/14/04 03:07 AM (19 years, 9 months ago)

im with the doc on this one

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Re: Is sleep necessary?

[Re: Swami]
#2889081 - 07/14/04 10:13 AM (19 years, 9 months ago)

I know a girl at university who sleeps for about five hours a week. If she has a couple of nights in a row without sleep then she takes a pill to help. She's still very normal, and very intelligent. She never seems tired or anything.
Personally, I need about six hours a night, and like to stay in bed for nine or ten, just because I'm a lazy git.

Did anyone in the UK see that program where contestants had to stay awake for a week, and the last person to fall aslepp won loads of money? It shows that it can be done, if you want to badly enough!
I also remember reading that the longest a normal person has gone without sleep was eleven days. They might have stayed awake for longer, if it wasn't for the fact that chronic sleep deprivation killed them. I'll try to find out why they stayed awake for so long... (if that story is in fact true)

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Re: Is sleep necessary?

[Re: truekimbo2]
#2889116 - 07/14/04 10:23 AM (19 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

truekimbo2 said:
i'm one of those fucked up poeple that require 10-12 hours of sleep a night, and i wake up feeling worse than when i went to bed, and usually i don't feel "Awake" till about 4 hours after i wake up.

I completely identify with this.
My days are 32 hours. I'll sleep for 10 hours and I'll be up for 22. I keep thinking that I should try letting my sleep rotate around the entire day, but I have too much shit to do during the day.

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Re: Is sleep necessary?

[Re: Sclorch]
#2889130 - 07/14/04 10:29 AM (19 years, 9 months ago)

Meher Baba Never slept a day in his life :smile:

:smile:

Sleep is the beyond the beyond state of god existing as god but unknowing that it is anything at all.

basically the prosess of sleep is the same as any other prosess such as death and awakening and the "opening of ones eyes". Its all connected in a strange metaphysical way.

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Re: Is sleep necessary?

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#2889135 - 07/14/04 10:30 AM (19 years, 9 months ago)

and yup my body works on 32 hour clock also.

fuckin sucks :frown:

:frown:

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Re: Is sleep necessary?

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#2889813 - 07/14/04 01:25 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

Meher Baba Never slept a day in his life

And who was there to verify this myth?

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Re: Is sleep necessary?

[Re: Swami]
#2889947 - 07/14/04 01:51 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Swami said:
And who was there to verify this myth?

Why, just ask Paul Bunyan! He was there! :lol:

:lol:

Seriously, who is Meher Baba?

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Peace.

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Re: Is sleep necessary?

[Re: Swami]
#2890286 - 07/14/04 03:01 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Swami said:
Some of you may have noted that I never sleep and respond to most all posts accurately and succinctly and within a time frame not possible for a human. I am either:

a. an insomniac with no life and the fastest typist on the planet.

b. a robotic program emulation of a human.

c. an alien.

d. highly evolved and past the need for sleep.

e. a group of people masquerading as one entitiy.

When one is constantly in touch with the ground of being, no sleep is necessary.

or f. a geek with no social life

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Re: Is sleep necessary?

[Re: Swami]
#2890303 - 07/14/04 03:04 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

I wonder how often and how long people would sleep if we weren't dependent on the day-night cycle.

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Re: Is sleep necessary?

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#2890542 - 07/14/04 04:04 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Openminded said:
Did anyone in the UK see that program where contestants had to stay awake for a week, and the last person to fall aslepp won loads of money? It shows that it can be done, if you want to badly enough!

I saw bits of it, but not all of it. It wasn't 100% sleep deprivation - occasionally they would get told to sleep for 2 or 3 hours. After one of those nap sessions one of the guys insisted that he was the Prime Minister of Australia (pity he's not, Oz could do with someone other than Howard).

They talked about getting some 'visual disturbances' where things would warp or bounce, and I think some got tunnel vision at times.

The scientists involved with the show were somewhat suprised that there was very little in the way of 'reality distortion' aside from the Prime Minister moment (which occurred just after a short nap), and at least one person thinking they were in a London tube station at some point (which wasn't that suprising given the high brightness and stark surroundings).

Other than that, they were pretty much 'with it'. The girl who won it kept herself awake by purposely giving herself muscle cramps.

Oh yeah, there were some (fake) amanita muscaria's in the 'garden' area :smile:

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Re: Is sleep necessary?

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#2890604 - 07/14/04 04:18 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Max Headroom said:
I wonder how often and how long people would sleep if we weren't dependent on the day-night cycle.

Go ask an Alaskan.

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Re: Is sleep necessary?

[Re: Swami]
#2892277 - 07/15/04 02:59 AM (19 years, 9 months ago)

"Some posts are not worth responding to."

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Re: Is sleep necessary?

[Re: Swami]
#2894602 - 07/15/04 07:14 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

i think biologically we were designed to sleep.

i read a story, however, about a civil war general who was shot in the head and was never able to sleep again. he still lived a normal life, except while eveyrone else was sleeping, he would lay in bed and convince himself that he doesnt need to sleep, his body would be just as refreshed if he laid there all night awake.

i think if you worry that youre not getting enough sleep then youre not, but if youre not worried at all and you believe what youre doing is right then you probably dont need it. its all about the way people obsess over insomnia that produces depression/psychotic states in which the stress level is extremely high.

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Re: Is sleep necessary?

[Re: IamHungry]
#2894768 - 07/15/04 08:17 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

In his book 'True Hallucinations', Terence McKenna claimed to go 9 days without sleeping or feeling the need for sleep. He was too busy thinking to sleep. I don't think he was tripping either. I mean he was tripping around that period but he definatley wasn't on drugs for the whole 9 days (other than probably a load of ganja). I guess theres no way to prove he actually did it though.

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Re: Is sleep necessary?

[Re: IamHungry]
#2894848 - 07/15/04 08:48 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

Definitely mind over matter, and convincing yourself you are sufficient without whatever the need may be.
-food
-water
-sleep
As far as sleep is concerned, 20-35 minutes of meditation should make up for a least a few hours of sleep.

I believe through meditation, sleep is not necessary.
But of course, I speak for the moment, always an transcendental as possible ;-)

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Re: Is sleep necessary?

[Re: Swami]
#2895033 - 07/15/04 09:36 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

The longest i've managest to stay awake was a little over 15 days.

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Re: Is sleep necessary?

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#2896942 - 07/16/04 12:21 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

No way!!! The world record was less than 2 weeks. The official verified sleeplessness record is 11 days, set by high school senior Randy Gardner in 1964. Randy Gardner was "awake" but basically cognitively dysfunctional at the end of his ordeal. If you continuously deprive rats of sleep, they die after 14 days. 15 days would possibly kill you. I once had to remain awake during a military exercise in the Army for 3 days and it damn near killed me (exageration). This is merely an idle boast.

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Re: Is sleep necessary?

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#2896957 - 07/16/04 12:26 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

I know druggies who have stayed up for two weeks..

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Re: Is sleep necessary?

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#2896969 - 07/16/04 12:29 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

B.S.

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Re: Is sleep necessary?

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#2897022 - 07/16/04 12:52 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

Well i'm sure the meth we were using would have helped in keeping us awake :x . Its a nasty drug. And i can assure 15 days of no sleep will not kill you, although it will produce quite a nasty comedown.

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Re: Is sleep necessary?

[Re: d33p]
#2898956 - 07/17/04 01:21 AM (19 years, 8 months ago)

And I got a bridge I will sell you.....cheap too....

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Re: Is sleep necessary?

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#2900875 - 07/17/04 08:54 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Strumpling said:
"Some posts are not worth responding to."

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My reaction also... just thought I'd mention that when I started sleeping regularly for car-pooling reasons around 1993 or so, I felt like I was born again. I went through a sheet of blotter also, which may have colored my memories somewhat, but the sleep pattern remains and I try to stick with it since it's so obvious that a human being needs to sleep, once you get used to the idea.

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Re: Is sleep necessary?

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#2901856 - 07/18/04 07:42 AM (19 years, 8 months ago)

i dont think a alien would feel insecure and commit the act of letting its prowess be known ... niether a robot

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Re: Is sleep necessary?

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#2902130 - 07/18/04 11:00 AM (19 years, 8 months ago)

Are you an alien or cybernetic pyschologist? Please post a copy of your university diploma. TY.

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Re: Is sleep necessary?

[Re: Swami]
#2902155 - 07/18/04 11:07 AM (19 years, 8 months ago)

http://www.avatarmeherbaba.org/

he is the avatar of the age.

he is the most perfect of the perfect masters

read his book god speaks. its a masterpeice of the evolution of consiousness.

i cant beleive you guys havent herd of baba! i talk to people at the shows all the time that know him well.

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Re: Is sleep necessary?

[Re: Swami]
#2907580 - 07/20/04 04:15 AM (19 years, 8 months ago)

Maybe the answer is
f. Swami has found a way to control the quantity and quality of his sleep, like anyone else can

Let me explain myself

We spend an average of 25 years of our existence sleeping.
The truly deep sleep, the one in which we really recover, doesn't last more than one hour per night and is split in 4 sequences that last 15 minutes each and come back every hour and a half. Those sequences are called REM sleep.
Sometimes, like alot of people here, you may sleep for ten hours straight without finding this deep sleep, and after ten hours have gone by you wake up feeling like shit, exhausted.

But if we knew how to precipitate as quickly as possible into the REM sleep when we go to sleep, we could sleep for an hour a day by going through all four sequences of REM sleep all at once, with no interruption, so that we could fully regenerate in no less than one hour.

How do we do this?

First of all, you have to be able to recognize your own cycles of sleep. For this, all you need to do, is to take note of the time of the first yawns of the evening, the first tiredness of the day, which usually happens at around 6 p.m., and from there you know that it will come back every hour and a half. These will be the precise moments of the passage of your train of deep sleep. If you go to bed right at that moment and if you oblige yourself to wake up three hours later (with an alarm clock), you can progressively teach your brain to compress the sleeping phase by conserving only the important parts of sleep.
This way we perfectly recover in a short amount of time, and you wake up feeling great.

One day, we will probably teach kids at school how to control their sleep.

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Re: Is sleep necessary?

[Re: Swami]
#2907599 - 07/20/04 05:14 AM (19 years, 8 months ago)

i havent had any kind of "normal" sleep patterns since i was about ten or so...i sleep for about 30-45 min and wake up, wide awake, and cant fall back asleep for a few hours...i also sleep walk, wake up sometime and cannot move at all...i guess they call this sleep paralysis...anyway, i was gonna be a part of a study the university was doing on a new sleeping pill, but i got kicked out of it due to "potential health issues" once they saw that i had signs of rem behavior sleep disorder? never heard of it, but apparently its a rare sleeping disorder where the rem stage of sleep is all out of whack...i dunno, it never bothered me too much, but sometimes ill stay awake for 4 or 5 days at a time and life gets pretty rough then...sometimes i wont know if im awake or dreaming...

but ya, on average i get about 2 to 3 hours a night, at half hour intervals....seems to work alright for me 90% of the time

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Re: Is sleep necessary?

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#2907609 - 07/20/04 05:44 AM (19 years, 8 months ago)

yeah Meher Baba rules!! Vijay Kumar also rules!!

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