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InvisibleSwami
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Risk-takers
    #2884675 - 07/13/04 03:08 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I understand the need to push and find our limits. Personally though, I prefer activities that will not entail serious injury or death if I make a mistake (like asking out a mega-hot babe :heart:) I have a friend paralyzed for life from motorcycle racing and have known people to die in sports such as extreme mountain climbing and sky-diving.

Do the rest of us "need" these trail-blazers? Are these superior humans testing what is possible as examples for the rest of us or are they merely adrenaline junkies hooked on walking the tightrope; simply neurotics with a death wish disguised as courage?


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Re: Risk-takers [Re: Swami]
    #2884752 - 07/13/04 03:44 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Well, ya we do need them.
E.G.

We need that first guy that jumped on a boat to cross the ocean, just to see what was on the other side.

Or that guy that first said "sure, you can strap me to a rocket and blast me into space"

Or how about the guys that said " Lets eat this mushroom and see what happens"

Now, sure we probably could of done those things with out the risk taker...but things would of went a lot slower.

These trail-blazers are needed in the human race, cause the rest of us are to chicken shit to be the first one to try something new.

And most of them are "merely adrenaline junkies hooked on walking the tightrope; simply neurotics with a death wish disguised as courage" but we still need them for the human race to push forward.


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Re: Risk-takers [Re: Psychonaut]
    #2884767 - 07/13/04 03:54 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Ah, a cleverly disguised genetic defect, harmful to the individual, but beneficial to the whole, eh?


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Re: Risk-takers [Re: Swami]
    #2884814 - 07/13/04 04:31 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Well....guess you can call it a defect. Defects in one way or another could be found in every part of the human race and could be the driving force forward.
The risk taker, the thinker, even the 9 to 5 mindless worker are all needed in the human race, but all have traits that can be very self destructive.

Its just evolution playing around with us......to what ends, time will only tell.


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Re: Risk-takers [Re: Psychonaut]
    #2884842 - 07/13/04 04:44 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

its not a defect at all, an affinity for risk is a characteristic of an alpha male.

those who take risks, in any form, tend to rise to the top of the tribe.

(if the risk pays off)


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Re: Risk-takers [Re: Swami]
    #2884871 - 07/13/04 05:01 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

sky diving is harmless, I dove in april of 2003 and I'm fine.


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Re: Risk-takers [Re: Positronius]
    #2884942 - 07/13/04 06:02 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Some recent studies in primates have shown that the Beta males may fare better in reproducing as the Alpha males spend too much time & energy defending their position in the tribe and have shorter lives. (see: Dick Cheney)


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Re: Risk-takers [Re: SpecialEd]
    #2884949 - 07/13/04 06:07 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

sky diving is harmless
True. It is the landing that may prove fatal.

I dove in april of 2003 and I'm fine.
Anecdote is such amazingly strong evidence.

A friend of mine once tried to talk me into sky diving. He referenced a 60 year-old man who held the record for number of safe dives. I did some rough calculations and proclaimed the chance of dying from a jump was about 1/10,000.
The following month, the record-holder died in a jump. It was his 9,827th jump. Go figure. (Prophecy or logic?)


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Re: Risk-takers [Re: Swami]
    #2886322 - 07/13/04 03:39 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

swami i think you might have forgot a number in their somewhere, cuz you said the chance of death was 1 in ten thousand and then he died right before his thousandth jump. So thats not really prophecy or logic.

Either way though, id say just jump once than. Its bound to be an amazing experience, and your chances of death are very small.

Id be willing to bet you have about a one in ten thousand chance of dieing when you cross the street.


Also, i think a 'death wish' is more or less the same thing as a 'life wish' the desire to live life to the fullest.


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Re: Risk-takers [Re: Swami]
    #2886363 - 07/13/04 03:53 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

have you ever driven at speeds faster than 200 mph? 

some experiences are more rewarding (at least to some) than asking out hot babes.  There is more to life than hot babes, you know that, right?  :wink:


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Re: Risk-takers [Re: Moonshoe]
    #2886431 - 07/13/04 04:17 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

9827 is NOT right before 1000


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Re: Risk-takers [Re: entiformatie]
    #2886442 - 07/13/04 04:20 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

haha good point i knew i was missing something there


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Re: Risk-takers [Re: DoctorJ]
    #2886494 - 07/13/04 04:37 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

have you ever driven at speeds faster than 200 mph?
It is not speed, but acceleration that is the thrill. If you were in a space capsule, you might be thrilled to be there, but the 20,000 mph speed would be undetectable if you were already at speed and you closed your eyes.

There is more to life than hot babes, you know that, right?
I used to know that, but at mid-life I have come full circle.


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Re: Risk-takers [Re: Swami]
    #2886502 - 07/13/04 04:40 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I am aware that airplanes and space ships go much faster than cars but seem slower.  Which is why I said 'driving at speeds faster than 200 mph' as opposed to 'traveling at speeds faster than 200 mph' :smirk:


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Re: Risk-takers [Re: DoctorJ]
    #2886527 - 07/13/04 04:50 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

DoctorJ said:
have you ever driven at speeds faster than 200 mph? 

some experiences are more rewarding (at least to some) than asking out hot babes.  There is more to life than hot babes, you know that, right?  :wink:



Very few land vehicles can even attain 200 mph, I have never had the opportunity to drive one, but I have driven several vehicles at the very limits of their capabilities.  Hot babes are more exciting, but that is a matter of personal preference.


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Re: Risk-takers [Re: Swami]
    #2886605 - 07/13/04 05:13 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Hmmm...

I have taken risks,but i cannot be considered a risk taker.

Yes ,i have been on a motorbike running at the speed of 180 KMh without a helmet and slightly drunk (a sober person was driving it).Did i like it?So and So,the adrenaline rush when i stepped off it was so great that it was more amazing than the "ereaserhead" look my hairstyled had from the speed.Was it dangerous? Yes,i could very easily let go in my drunken condition and fall off killing myself.

"Mega Hot babes" make my knees shake and give me an adrenaline rush.Im not Casanova, i dont have two of them posing in my avatar :wink:

Swami has said:
" Do the rest of us "need" these trail-blazers? Are these superior humans testing what is possible as examples for the rest of us or are they merely adrenaline junkies hooked on walking the tightrope; simply neurotics with a death wish disguised as courage? "

I do not think we "need" them ,but many things happen that are not needed. Risk taking is one of those behaviors that is not governed by logic but people partake in it.Like some guys here trying to shoot pills in their veins :laugh:


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Re: Risk-takers [Re: entiformatie]
    #2887004 - 07/13/04 07:19 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

entiformatie said:
9827 is NOT right before 1000





:kodama:



You're right!  It's waaaaayy  after..



:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


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Re: Risk-takers [Re: Psiloman]
    #2887013 - 07/13/04 07:21 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I will have nightmares after seeing your avatar. I would hate to see you all drugged out...


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:D [Re: Swami]
    #2887073 - 07/13/04 07:45 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Oh its my false dentures that give me this effect and my latest face surgery....

i can mold my face in any shape i want ,really!

Hey,at least im not Pete from "Dead or Alive"...THis guy could give you worst nightmares (well he gave me some nasty ones!)


Edited by Psiloman (07/13/04 07:52 PM)


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Re: Risk-takers [Re: Swami]
    #2887108 - 07/13/04 07:59 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

nah, don't judge them that harshly man.

they are just doing what the feel is fun.

I don't think I have any right to judge what they do as long as they arent hurting other people.

so what if they want to take risks, that's their thing. lots of people find their peace that way. are you going to be one to say it's wrong?

sure that person fell off of his bike, but he could have easily been hit a car, or caught some deadly disease, got into a bar fight, could have got robbed, could have taken PCP tried to outrun the cops and then get beat up on national television, etc


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