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Ps. Mexicana “Jalisco” on cased rye grass seed
#28846462 - 07/11/24 11:20 AM (6 months, 3 days ago) |
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Alright, so I also have some spawned to straw that aren’t ready yet, but these are pure rye grass seed and I’m wondering why the caps seem to be opening early when they’re so small. Temps are 70-76F. I mist and spray 4-5 times a day and I have a small extractor fan in the roof of the fruiting chamber that runs for about five minutes every hour.



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Re: Ps. Mexicana “Jalisco” on cased rye grass seed [Re: Stargrown] 1
#28846481 - 07/11/24 11:30 AM (6 months, 3 days ago) |
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Take this with a grain of salt, since I haven't fruited Mexicana yet, but I think they're just small mushrooms.
All my Tampenensis have been very small, around 3-6 cm tall. They also grow quite a lot more after opening their caps, before they begin to sporulate.
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Re: Ps. Mexicana “Jalisco” on cased rye grass seed [Re: notthatsorry]
#28846498 - 07/11/24 11:35 AM (6 months, 3 days ago) |
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Quote:
notthatsorry said: Take this with a grain of salt, since I haven't fruited Mexicana yet, but I think they're just small mushrooms.
All my Tampenensis have been very small, around 3-6 cm tall. They also grow quite a lot more after opening their caps, before they begin to sporulate.
 
Mexicana are a tiny and very potent little mushroom of Legend and I would very much love to get a spore print or anything I could and I have a link for you to the former mexicana master https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/10925421
I bless your efforts and best wishes!
 
They are rated as a moderately difficult mushroom to cultivate, so you didn't do badly and you may have a gift? 
I was going by an old method that had roughly the elements, but did not give these results and I would spawn them for a long period of time, case with sand, then I would let them dry and then flood them to get them to fruit and that was all primitive struggling compared to what they know about them now.
so i want to try again!
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Re: Ps. Mexicana “Jalisco” on cased rye grass seed [Re: curenado]
#28846510 - 07/11/24 11:48 AM (6 months, 3 days ago) |
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The water looks way fine to even maybe a bit much. it is not lack of water and more water increases your chances for contaminating. Maybe give them a few minutes of bright sunlight? they are a very Southern mushroom? Don't cook them by any means, but let them get that blast of solar rad and heat for 5 minutes?
Bravo! about time somebody did these again. Let's use this thread for the current one
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Re: Ps. Mexicana “Jalisco” on cased rye grass seed [Re: curenado] 1
#28846533 - 07/11/24 11:56 AM (6 months, 3 days ago) |
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Looks like it could be a combo of too wet & not enough FAE. They often go hand-in-hand. Up the FAE as high as you can without drying things out. I fruited mine in a martha with intake fan on 24/7
I have only grown the Vera Cruz variety. Here’s one that was kept way too wet

Next one got more FAE but was still a bit too wet

Dialed the moisture back a bit for the next one & voila
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Re: Ps. Mexicana “Jalisco” on cased rye grass seed [Re: MojaveMyc]
#28846641 - 07/11/24 12:36 PM (6 months, 3 days ago) |
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 Excellent You don't need it, but here's the Forum thread for those archives. Mexicana and Tampa happen to be together https://www.shroomery.org/forums/postlist.php/Board/67
And they're up above in the cultivation forum, its just people don't always notice them quietly up there
Seems to me 20 years ago Tampa was considered hard to do too, but it's just that people got them all worked out and know what they'll respond to better.
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Re: Ps. Mexicana “Jalisco” on cased rye grass seed [Re: curenado]
#28855782 - 07/15/24 11:14 AM (5 months, 30 days ago) |
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So here’s what they looked like right before I harvested the first mature ones. They are short and small and falling over, not tall and standing up straight. I’ve been fanning every 2-3 hours and misting only the walls of the FC.


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Re: Ps. Mexicana “Jalisco” on cased rye grass seed [Re: Stargrown]
#28855799 - 07/15/24 11:22 AM (5 months, 30 days ago) |
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You shouldn't fan and you shouldn't spray the walls of the FC
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Re: Ps. Mexicana “Jalisco” on cased rye grass seed [Re: DERRAYLD]
#28855826 - 07/15/24 11:35 AM (5 months, 30 days ago) |
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So just leave it alone then?
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Re: Ps. Mexicana “Jalisco” on cased rye grass seed [Re: Stargrown]
#28866792 - 07/17/24 08:01 PM (5 months, 28 days ago) |
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Well, this is what they look like if I don’t mist and fan. They’re clearly too dry.
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Re: Ps. Mexicana “Jalisco” on cased rye grass seed [Re: Stargrown]
#28901865 - 08/06/24 09:00 AM (5 months, 8 days ago) |
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And here’s what they look like when I mist and fan every few hours. There’s an aquarium stone bubbling in that mason jar that’s raising humidity a few points and providing a bit of continuous FAE, and there’s a small extraction fan in the lid of this FC that runs one minute every hour.
They’re clearly happier, but I just wanna know why they’re all falling over and not standing upright like the ones in MojaveMyc’s picture? Is it because the moisture is weighing them down? I have to mist like this or the casing dries out.
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