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 Sclorch
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 socialist libertarianism 
#2879913 - 07/11/04 10:18 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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What Would a Socialist Libertarian Do?
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 Ancalagon
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 Re: socialist libertarianism [Re: Sclorch]
#2879999 - 07/11/04 10:35 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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Implode? That particular 'title' makes no sense AT ALL if we're using the current American definition of a Libertarian. It is a total contradiction.
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-Henry Hazlitt in 'Economics in One Lesson'
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silversoul7
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Re: socialist libertarianism [Re: Ancalagon]
#2881593 - 07/12/04 09:49 AM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
Ancalagon said:
Implode? That particular 'title' makes no sense AT ALL if we're using the current American definition of a Libertarian. It is a total contradiction.
I wouldn't be so sure. As mushmaster once pointed out, you could have voluntary socialism within a libertarian society(i.e. communes). Libertarianism is essentially about letting people do their own thing, so if people want to form a collective, that's perfectly acceptable in a libertarian society, so long as they do not force it upon other people.
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Re: socialist libertarianism [Re: Sclorch]
#2881656 - 07/12/04 10:06 AM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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what would a christian satanist do?
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Vvellum
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Re: socialist libertarianism [Re: ]
#2881662 - 07/12/04 10:09 AM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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vote for Bush.
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Anonymous
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Re: socialist libertarianism [Re: Sclorch]
#2881682 - 07/12/04 10:13 AM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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what would a hawkish pacifist do?
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Ancalagon
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Re: socialist libertarianism [Re: silversoul7]
#2881818 - 07/12/04 11:03 AM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
I wouldn't be so sure. As mushmaster once pointed out, you could have voluntary socialism within a libertarian society(i.e. communes). Libertarianism is essentially about letting people do their own thing, so if people want to form a collective, that's perfectly acceptable in a libertarian society, so long as they do not force it upon other people.
I think that's more a socialist living under a libertarian system then a 'socialist libertarian'. Sclorch didn't really define what he meant by the initial term though so not totally sure.
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?When Alexander the Great visted the philosopher Diogenes and asked whether he could do anything for him, Diogenes is said to have replied: 'Yes, stand a little less between me and the sun.' It is what every citizen is entitled to ask of his government.?
-Henry Hazlitt in 'Economics in One Lesson'
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silversoul7
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Re: socialist libertarianism [Re: Ancalagon]
#2881923 - 07/12/04 11:36 AM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
Ancalagon said:
Quote:
I wouldn't be so sure. As mushmaster once pointed out, you could have voluntary socialism within a libertarian society(i.e. communes). Libertarianism is essentially about letting people do their own thing, so if people want to form a collective, that's perfectly acceptable in a libertarian society, so long as they do not force it upon other people.
I think that's more a socialist living under a libertarian system then a 'socialist libertarian'. Sclorch didn't really define what he meant by the initial term though so not totally sure.
I think if someone supported a libertarian form of government, but chose to live under voluntary collectivism, that might count as socialist libertarianism. Of course the term is rather vague.
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Anonymous
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Re: socialist libertarianism [Re: silversoul7]
#2881942 - 07/12/04 11:42 AM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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that would make them a regular, plain old, libertarian. politically speaking, there would be no "socialist" about it.
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Tao
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Re: socialist libertarianism [Re: Sclorch]
#2884663 - 07/13/04 01:02 AM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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Again, socialist libertarian = liberal on social issues, collectivist on economic issues. i.e. bottom-left of the politicalcompass.org chart.
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Baby_Hitler
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Re: socialist libertarianism [Re: ]
#2884805 - 07/13/04 02:24 AM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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All Satanists are Judeo-Christian Satanists. A socialist libertarian is a socialist who believes collectivism should not be forced upon anyone.
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