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InvisibleSclorch
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socialist libertarianism
    #2879913 - 07/12/04 12:18 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

What Would a Socialist Libertarian Do?


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Re: socialist libertarianism [Re: Sclorch]
    #2879999 - 07/12/04 12:35 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Implode? That particular 'title' makes no sense AT ALL if we're using the current American definition of a Libertarian. It is a total contradiction.


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Re: socialist libertarianism [Re: Ancalagon]
    #2881593 - 07/12/04 11:49 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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Ancalagon said:
Implode? That particular 'title' makes no sense AT ALL if we're using the current American definition of a Libertarian. It is a total contradiction.



I wouldn't be so sure. As mushmaster once pointed out, you could have voluntary socialism within a libertarian society(i.e. communes). Libertarianism is essentially about letting people do their own thing, so if people want to form a collective, that's perfectly acceptable in a libertarian society, so long as they do not force it upon other people.


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Re: socialist libertarianism [Re: Sclorch]
    #2881656 - 07/12/04 12:06 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

what would a christian satanist do?


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Re: socialist libertarianism [Re: ]
    #2881662 - 07/12/04 12:09 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

vote for Bush.


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Re: socialist libertarianism [Re: Sclorch]
    #2881682 - 07/12/04 12:13 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

what would a hawkish pacifist do?


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Re: socialist libertarianism [Re: silversoul7]
    #2881818 - 07/12/04 01:03 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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I wouldn't be so sure. As mushmaster once pointed out, you could have voluntary socialism within a libertarian society(i.e. communes). Libertarianism is essentially about letting people do their own thing, so if people want to form a collective, that's perfectly acceptable in a libertarian society, so long as they do not force it upon other people.



I think that's more a socialist living under a libertarian system then a 'socialist libertarian'. Sclorch didn't really define what he meant by the initial term though so not totally sure.


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Re: socialist libertarianism [Re: Ancalagon]
    #2881923 - 07/12/04 01:36 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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Ancalagon said:
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I wouldn't be so sure. As mushmaster once pointed out, you could have voluntary socialism within a libertarian society(i.e. communes). Libertarianism is essentially about letting people do their own thing, so if people want to form a collective, that's perfectly acceptable in a libertarian society, so long as they do not force it upon other people.



I think that's more a socialist living under a libertarian system then a 'socialist libertarian'. Sclorch didn't really define what he meant by the initial term though so not totally sure.



I think if someone supported a libertarian form of government, but chose to live under voluntary collectivism, that might count as socialist libertarianism. Of course the term is rather vague.


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Re: socialist libertarianism [Re: silversoul7]
    #2881942 - 07/12/04 01:42 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

that would make them a regular, plain old, libertarian. politically speaking, there would be no "socialist" about it.


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Re: socialist libertarianism [Re: Sclorch]
    #2884663 - 07/13/04 03:02 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Again, socialist libertarian = liberal on social issues, collectivist on economic issues. i.e. bottom-left of the politicalcompass.org chart.


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Re: socialist libertarianism [Re: ]
    #2884805 - 07/13/04 04:24 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

All Satanists are Judeo-Christian Satanists. A socialist libertarian is a socialist who believes collectivism should not be forced upon anyone.


The end. :smirk:


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