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 Cross Pollenated 1/2 Pot Plants found in Kentucky-no pic yet 
#2879205 - 07/11/04 06:39 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ok, I know what experts say.... (read on)
A Plant's Description:
My friends have found a plant that has leaves/stems EXACTLY like a Sativa, yet diferent types of buds- Some claim it IS ACTIVE in THC (many claim to get a high just like marijuana- only weaker). It buds in the spring to middle Summer- suspected to also bud in Fall. The buds have FOUR tiny seeds in them, and the flowers that suround the seeds look exactly like marijuana flowers. It has no "hair" or thorns on it. Only the buds look different from Mexican Sativa. It was found in southern Kentucky.
The locals have speculated that pot might of cross-pollenated with another weed (despite the fact that experts like Ed Rostenthal claim it's impossible for pot to cross pollenate with another weed to produce THC)
Has anyone else found a plant like the description here growing wild before? Does anyone know if it's a hemp variation (Kentucky was a BIG hemp state in the pre-outlaw days)- or as locals think- maybe a cross pollenated plant (Pot -X- wild weed)
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Re: Cross Pollenated 1/2 Pot Plants found in Kentucky-no pic yet [Re: Jammer]
#2879814 - 07/11/04 10:03 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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Do you happen to have a picture? a picture would be key here.
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Re: Cross Pollenated 1/2 Pot Plants found in Kentucky-no pic yet [Re: Hooty]
#2880875 - 07/12/04 02:16 AM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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I hope to have one soon... Word has it the problem in geting a pic is that most of them have died.. They appear to be a spring/fall plant. Some are speculating that these long days stress them to a point of death, and the seeds take off in the fall/spring.
Another tidbit- The buds form around stems. It's like a flower with 4 tiny seeds (all plants were reported bisexual- self polinating, no males found) with the tip of the stems growing out from the center. Other than that they look exactly like Sativa... 7 leafs... err.. correction:
Actually the look more like Ruderalis.. they have redish stalks sometimes.
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Re: Cross Pollenated 1/2 Pot Plants found in Kentucky-no pic yet [Re: Jammer]
#2881160 - 07/12/04 03:39 AM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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ed rosenthal is correct, it is not possible to cross pollinate, im sure its either just a hybrid or a non cannabis plant. from your description i would guess non cannabis plant.
main reason is you say it comes with 4 seeds , if the impossible have happen and cannabis is cross breed with another species it sure havent genetic developed a seed limit to only 4 seeds.
the flowers you see on marijuana can be found on several other species.
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Re: Cross Pollenated 1/2 Pot Plants found in Kentucky-no pic [Re: Anonymous]
#2881977 - 07/12/04 11:59 AM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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I honestly believe it's a type of cannabis. Too many people swear they get high off it, even veteran pot smokers. Almost all swear it has a THC type high to it. I have seen people smoke a bowl (pure flowers) of it and suddenly start laughing like they were stoned off their asses.... I mean, it does take a full bowl.. It takes some about 2 grams of manicured flowers for a decent high. Is common wild hemp normaly this strong in THC?
One sure cant rule out an unfamilar variation of hemp... there is at least 3 other types of wild hemp that grows in the same area, however they resemble indica more (wide dark green leafs) and some say they dont share such an intense buzz.
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Re: Cross Pollenated 1/2 Pot Plants found in Kentucky-no pic [Re: Jammer]
#2882145 - 07/12/04 12:41 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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Either wild hemp or a poor quality hermaphrodite strain.
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Re: Cross Pollenated 1/2 Pot Plants found in Kentucky-no pic [Re: Jammer]
#2882167 - 07/12/04 12:46 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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Most likely not cannabis at all. There are plants that look like pot a little. You can get a small buzz from smoking anything, even paper. I would not get too excited.
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Re: Cross Pollenated 1/2 Pot Plants found in Kentucky-no pic [Re: Stonehenge]
#2884697 - 07/13/04 01:19 AM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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Well, I supose one way of telling for sure is for the smokers of this weed to all apply for jobs they dont want... That way they can get a FREE drug test... Then maybe we will know for sure if it's really THC. 
I want to add that I agree that a lot of plants look like pot a little... But, this one in paticular is almost a clone ('cept for the buds).. it's almost like someone took a pot plant and replaced the buds with another type.
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Re: Cross Pollenated 1/2 Pot Plants found in Kentucky-no pic [Re: Jammer]
#2886806 - 07/13/04 04:20 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
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Well, I supose one way of telling for sure is for the smokers of this weed to all apply for jobs they dont want... That way they can get a FREE drug test... Then maybe we will know for sure if it's really THC.
I want to add that I agree that a lot of plants look like pot a little... But, this one in paticular is almost a clone ('cept for the buds).. it's almost like someone took a pot plant and replaced the buds with another type.
I think it would be a much better idea to get a bunch of this plant and use one of the many methods of concentrating out the cannabinoids. For instance, bubblebags for hash or a butane extraction for oil.
It would probably be easier to post a pic though.  
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Re: Cross Pollenated 1/2 Pot Plants found in Kentucky-no pic [Re: Tantalus]
#2887374 - 07/13/04 07:41 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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That hash oil idea has been bounced around... it might have potential.
My friends tried to get a pic today.. The only ones found today were brown and dead... So, there going to wait untill another green one is found. Perhaps in a month or two when the days start geting a little shorter.
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 UPDATE: Extremely interesting Hemp-Like Plants found in Kentucky [Re: Jammer]
#4128267 - 05/03/05 03:14 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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Please forgive me for bumping this thread from 2004...
I just wanted to let folks know that word has it that the seeds from this plant has been introduced to other nearby states, and is growing fine in 2005....
Let me be clear that this plant DOES get people high (very high)... It's imposible to say if this plant has REAL T.H.C. in it... but everyone that I know that has smoked it claims it's exactly liike a good bud high. As far as anyone knows this plant is 100% LEGAL... however, if it was ever proven that it really has THC in it, likely it would be ileagle.
The plant buds in the spring/summer untill it dies in the fall. Within a couple months others might soon be able to sample this new plant and decide for themselves just how important of a find it really is.
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Re: UPDATE: Extremely interesting Hemp-Like Plants found in Kentucky [Re: Jammer]
#4128343 - 05/03/05 03:33 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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Well, if you smoke it and it gets you high like pot does, then its pot. Its just some mutated wild hemp from the good old days of hemp farming in Kentucky most likely. Stuff like that grows all over the south. Hence, this plant is illegal as it is a form of marijuana.
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 Re: UPDATE: Extremely interesting Hemp-Like Plants found in Kentucky [Re: Jammer]
#4128369 - 05/03/05 03:40 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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I will try to get a picture of these plants within a couple months and post in this thread. I REALLY think it might shock people how much this plant looks like a sativa. All the stems and leaves are exactly the same as a Sativa.. Only the buds give it away as being something other. While the buds contain four tiny seeds with a growing stem in the center that goes straight up to the next internode.... the flowers look and smoke just like the real thing.
Note: All plants found were self-polinating. I think the term: "mutated wild hemp" fits good. 
Whats great about this plant is that it's obviously a native and wild plant of southern Kentucky AND it's extremely hardy and grows very very easily. Some claim it grows easier outide than normal pot plants do.
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Re: UPDATE: Extremely interesting Hemp-Like Plants found in Kentucky [Re: dr_gonz]
#4128421 - 05/03/05 03:51 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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ruderalis?
Nope.. But when the plant is stressed it's stalk/stems/leaves sometimes turn a shade of red/pink like ruderalis do.. Also, the plant sometimes has the red streaks runing up the stalks like ruderalis sometimes do.. Ruderalis are not native to Kentucky (or even America, are they?).. So the plant seems to have traits of ruderalis and sativa... However, one cant see any indica traits in the plant.
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Re: UPDATE: Extremely interesting Hemp-Like Plants found in Kentucky [Re: Jammer]
#4128494 - 05/03/05 04:04 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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Its just hemp. Perhaps a high THC producing variety.
Here's an article on the state of wild hemp in Kentucky:
http://www.gametec.com/hemp/fiberwars/fw.chp10.html
Kentucky Hemp was a particular variety, very very low in THC content. Anyway, it grows all over as weeds. More than half a century of natural selection may have changed it significantly.
Hemp is primarily from the Cannabis Sativa family. Your plants look just like a sativa. Hence, its wild hemp. :-)
What I'd do, is collect a shitload of it, and do a butane extraction on it. Get some good hash oil from it.
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Re: UPDATE: Extremely interesting Hemp-Like Plants found in Kentucky [Re: calicyco]
#4128593 - 05/03/05 04:23 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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Thanks for that link calicyco!
Based on that report it would seem Kentucky hemp is almost too low in THC for anyone to see it as a drug... and thats what is weird about this plant. I know people that have smoked other types of Kentucky wild hemp (the most common having hairs on the stalks and yellow flowers) and really had a hard time coping a buzz.. This plant is in it's own legue when compared to other hemp... unlike any other hemp plants found in the area, the flowers from this plant is close to the quality of comercial bud.. Rumor has it that it takes about a gram to get high, while hard core smokers might need two grams... but for a plant found growing wild in the fields, I feel it's a great find. 
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Re: UPDATE: Extremely interesting Hemp-Like Plants found in Kentucky [Re: Jammer]
#4130558 - 05/03/05 11:13 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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Jammer, I am very interested in this plant. I do not smoke cannabis but would love to own one of these...assuming they are legal. Could you possibly get some seed for me? I have some ethnos and spores to trade if your interested.PM me.
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Re: UPDATE: Extremely interesting Hemp-Like Plants found in Kentucky [Re: Chemical_Bliss]
#4130923 - 05/04/05 12:24 AM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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Why are you typing???? Haul ass to a field or wherever this shit is and harvest all the bud you can and refine it to oil!
Oh, and if you are unsure if it is THC containing, mail me some. I am being drug tested twice a week and will let you know .
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Re: UPDATE: Extremely interesting Hemp-Like Plants found in Kentucky [Re: Chemical_Bliss]
#4132537 - 05/04/05 12:35 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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I have had a few people ask me to trade the seeds of this plant., which I dont have an issue with. However, as of this moment there simply are no seed of this plant to be had. All known seeds were planted a couple weeks ago. However, based on the plants found last year, the ones planted should bare seed by this July. The seeds are very small and look nothing like normal cannabis seed.
This is a wild plant native to southern Kentucky. In fact, the plants were found almost on the Tennesee border. If I'm ever advised by law enforcement that these plants or seeds are ileagle I will NOT be trading seeds, nor be involved in any way with this plant there after. Untill then, anyone interested in trading other LEGAL seeds (or spores) can PM me with their interests. I ask that members allow my friends a few months to make the trades, as it will take time for future seeds to come in. Nobody is interested in making a profit, but some legal spores of the blue magic found in Georgia (I forget the name of the discovered strain of cubes) would be of high intertest in a trade.
As I said: Im treating this as being legal. If Im ever convinced it's not legal, there will be no trades. Indeed, it is a most rare and interesting plant worth being passed on to friends.
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Re: UPDATE: Extremely interesting Hemp-Like Plants found in Kentucky [Re: Jammer]
#4132630 - 05/04/05 12:54 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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picture needed please i beg you.
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Re: UPDATE: Extremely interesting Hemp-Like Plants found in Kentucky [Re: Jammer]
#4132648 - 05/04/05 12:58 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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I've seen pictures of hemp plants with colas as big as a 2 liter bottle. What you describe sounds like a cross of low grade industrial hemp and ruderalis adapted for that area. Tread carefully, this is still a C. Sativa variety...
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Re: UPDATE: Extremely interesting Hemp-Like Plants found in Kentucky [Re: Organic]
#4133476 - 05/04/05 03:46 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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Either send some buds to anyone who is being drug tested or buy a drug test yourself and see if it contains any delta 9-THC.
Otherwise it is hard to tell, especially without any pictures. I will go on eBay and see what the cheapest drug test will cost, if you are interested.
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Re: UPDATE: Extremely interesting Hemp-Like Plants found in Kentucky [Re: Jammer]
#4134072 - 05/04/05 06:03 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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I have a feeling it's some form of pedicularis. Not many people know about this stuff, but those who do say it's the best smoke next to cannabis. I've been trying really hard to get my hands on the stuff, but have had no luck. Many different species of it have effects when smoked, most are hypnotic sedatives if I remember right. People say it's alot like cannabis. A couple species grow in kentucky, I know one of them is active, Pedicularis canadensis (canadian lousewort, wood betony). I once tried a smoking blend that had a bit of canadensis in it, and it did something quite nice. Do alittle research on the pedicularis and see if any look like what you're talking about. Here's a few pics of pedicularis canadensis.
http://www.ct-botanical-society.org/galleries/pediculariscana.html
http://elib.cs.berkeley.edu/photos/browse_imgs/plant_sci_202.html
http://www2.mcdaniel.edu/Biology/appliedbotany/hashawaapr10/lousewort.html
There are two or three stronger species than Pedicularis canadensis, so if that's what you have, you'll be glad to know there are some more potent pedicularis out there. The stronger species are elephants head, parrot's beak, and indian warrior, in order from weakest to strongest. Elephants head is supposed to taste the best.
One last thing to note, you aren't supposed to eat the stuff, it has some kind of negative effect. Skeletal lethargy or something like that.
Edit: Here's some pics of some of the other active species if anyone is interested.
Pedicularis densiflora (indian warrior)
http://www.calflora.net/bloomingplants/indianwarrior.html
http://www.coepark.org/wildflowers/red/pedicularis-densiflora.html
http://www.coestatepark.com/pedicularis_densiflora.htm
Pedicularis recemosa (parrot's beak)
http://wolf.mind.net/SWSBM/Images/P-R/Pedicularis_racemosa-1.jpg
http://wolf.mind.net/SWSBM/Images/P-R/Pedicularis_racemosa-2.jpg
http://www.forestryimages.org/browse/detail.cfm?imgnum=1214023
Pedicularis groenlandica (elephants head)
http://www.forestryimages.org/browse/detail.cfm?imgnum=1353100
http://www.forestryimages.org/browse/detail.cfm?imgnum=1353102
http://www.forestryimages.org/browse/detail.cfm?imgnum=0807077
lots of pedicularis pics here:
http://www.forestryimages.org/browse/
info on where to find pedicularis here:
http://plants.usda.gov/cgi_bin/topics.cgi?earl=plant_profile.cgi&symbol=PEDIC
Actually, maybe it's marajuanilla (Leonotis Sibericus), sounds like some form of wild dagga, here's a pic:
http://www.sacredshrooms.org/forums/files/040319-3/37400-Marihuanilla.jpg
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Re: UPDATE: Extremely interesting Hemp-Like Plants found in Kentucky [Re: Neon]
#4136554 - 05/05/05 06:40 AM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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its probably the same plant they get those "budz" off of and sell out in the high times ads.
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Re: UPDATE: Extremely interesting Hemp-Like Plants found in Kentucky [Re: Neon]
#4138326 - 05/05/05 03:11 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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Thanks for the links to those pics Neon. I have seen plants like your very last link in Kentucky before. However, none of those plants look anything like what was found. Keep in mind that the leaves look exactly like sativa (7 fingers to a leaf)- Everyone would mistake a leaf taken from the found plants for a pot leaf.
On thing doscovered is that when the plants are young the fingers of the leafs are "webed" like a duck's foot... After they mature the leaves no longer have this "web" of leaf material connecting the bottom of the fingers of the leaves togtether and take on the Sativa look.
One more thing is that these plants also often sprout a single flower (or mutated flower) on the stalk near a internode, yet outside of a bud... just like male pot plants often do.
I really doubt they would get away with selling these buds thru High Times mag very long.. These plants seem to be active in SOMETHING, and if it isnt THC, Im sure it would not take the goverment long to figure out what it is in these and outlaw it too.
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Re: UPDATE: Extremely interesting Hemp-Like Plants found in Kentucky [Re: Jammer]
#4145266 - 05/07/05 07:17 AM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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so u guys discovered a new drug huh.
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Re: UPDATE: Extremely interesting Hemp-Like Plants found in Kentucky [Re: Audi0]
#4159915 - 05/10/05 10:54 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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I would call it a herb.
Recently a field of this same type of plant was found growing in a forest in eastern ky (hundreds of miles from the place last year).. I must correct the previous description- The leaves are NOT exactly like sativa... Im afraid that description isnt correct. They look a lot like sativa leaves, but with more ridges on the sides.
Now this new field has been found, it should not be long untill a pic is posted. Right now it seems the plant is much more widely spread than was at first thought- Thus, it's most likely a type of wild hemp.
For now- NO SEED TRADES (if it's pure hemp, it's ileagle to trade untreated seeds in U.S.A.) stay tuned for pics soon
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Re: UPDATE: Extremely interesting Hemp-Like Plants found in Kentucky [Re: Jammer]
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 Re: UPDATE: Extremely interesting Hemp-Like Plants found in Kentucky [Re: CptnGarden]
#4234528 - 05/29/05 08:34 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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hehe.. No, that plant pictured in your link isnt the same as what I found. What I found does have the 7 leaf "fingers" that grow together as one leaf.
I went back to get pics of the latest wild plants of this type I found growing.. Unfortuantly the latest patch I found is growing within a campground and everytime I go back others are camping at the same spot. I would rather advoid atracting people to the exact spot they are growing wild. Even if they are legal. Nevertheless, pics of these plants WILL be posted here, in the future.
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Re: UPDATE: Extremely interesting Hemp-Like Plants found in Kentucky [Re: Jammer]
#4234583 - 05/29/05 08:56 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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*waits*
i actually looked up this thread a week or 2 ago to see if there were pics.. but got denied ;[
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Re: UPDATE: Extremely interesting Hemp-Like Plants found in Kentucky [Re: zSDMF]
#4234648 - 05/29/05 09:15 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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I could get some pics of some plants that are about two months old- but I would rather post some more mature plants, as the leafs are not yet fully formed on the young ones.
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Re: UPDATE: Extremely interesting Hemp-Like Plants found in Kentucky [Re: Jammer]
#4234652 - 05/29/05 09:16 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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i smell bullshit.
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Re: UPDATE: Extremely interesting Hemp-Like Plants found in Kentucky [Re: jonah_222]
#4234658 - 05/29/05 09:18 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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i smell bullshit.
What you smell is a guy to lazy to drag his camera out.
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Re: UPDATE: Extremely interesting Hemp-Like Plants found in Kentucky [Re: Jammer]
#4234921 - 05/29/05 10:49 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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For fucks sake mate just get a bloody picture!~! Or else stop bragging about this mysterious, elusive, quite possibly non existent weed...
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Re: UPDATE: Extremely interesting Hemp-Like Plants found in Kentucky [Re: Jammer]
#4235122 - 05/30/05 12:04 AM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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yeah this is getting lame. Eather give us something to jerk off to or let this thread die
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Re: UPDATE: Extremely interesting Hemp-Like Plants found in Kentucky [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
#4235307 - 05/30/05 01:02 AM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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Nobody is braging, and nobody should be demanding anything of me. Also, if a thread happens to be on the top of a forum you dont have to read it. I never bought into this idea that a thread is either dead or alive based on how much interest any paticular reader might have in it. If your not interested then just move on to another thread. There is no need to jump my ass because your not happy the pics are not up yet, and such tactics sure are not going to change anything. The pics will be posted when I post them.
Im not mad, but it really gets me sometimes how some can so freely tell people to shut up and do as they are told. I appoligize and appreciate the majority here that have shown interest and respect.
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Re: UPDATE: Extremely interesting Hemp-Like Plants found in Kentucky [Re: Jammer]
#4235786 - 05/30/05 04:10 AM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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do an extraction and smoke it. lol
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Re: UPDATE: Extremely interesting Hemp-Like Plants found in Kentucky [Re: Jammer]
#4236032 - 05/30/05 08:45 AM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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My bad it was late last night and i was drunk.
But it doesnt change the fact that im a scientest at heart and dont beleave it till i see it.
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Re: UPDATE: Extremely interesting Hemp-Like Plants found in Kentucky [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
#4237646 - 05/30/05 06:18 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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Well I'm sorry if you took offense to that. The fact is, you can look back through this post and see that you've been going to have a pic 'soon' for nearly one year now. I appreciate your attempts to share interesting information, but until pics are posted, I'm not too convinced of the existence of these amazing 'Cross pollenated 1/2 pot plants'.
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Re: UPDATE: Extremely interesting Hemp-Like Plants found in Kentucky [Re: zee_werp]
#4237691 - 05/30/05 06:29 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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it does not seem to hard to locate a camera of some sort?
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Re: UPDATE: Extremely interesting Hemp-Like Plants found in Kentucky [Re: jben]
#4237920 - 05/30/05 07:50 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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Honesty, geting a working camera right now IS my biggest problem.. and yes, I understand I have been saying the pics are coming for a long time now- sorry. 
I no longer think their 1/2 pollenated pot plants... Im pretty sure it's simply a wild hemp of some type now (just higher in thc than most other hemp)... Honestly, it's likely not a big deal other than a type of hemp. I didnt mean to mislead anyone, and when I get the pics posted Im sure those that know more tham I can advise as to what they are.
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