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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: sleepydave] 1
#28783906 - 05/22/24 12:33 PM (1 month, 5 days ago) |
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I made a bit of an uh oh when spawning my bvi jars. The spawn jars were only half quarts rather than full quarts and I forgot to adjust. Added twice as much substrate as I should have. So I have 2 tubs spawned at a 1:5 ratio. Will let yous know how it goes.
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Hey
Just want to share my latest grow of mystery S.A such a beauty
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Mycosmith, those are beautiful! They remind me a lot of Bisporus.
When I tried growing them, I had massive overlay on each tray. Did you let them consolidate for a while before casing and fruiting?
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Wanted to share, had Bisporus pin in seven days. These were jars of coir/leaf compost and coir/black kow (my coir/horse poo haven't pinned yet) 1:4 grain ratio with grass seed and millet in separate trays. Jars consolidated for two weeks while I was on vacation. Spawned and cased. Casings ran for three days with the lids on askew in my tent until it looked well colonized.
Here's an image of the casing when 'fruiting conditions' were introduced five days ago. First pins were spotted yesterday morning. I'll post pictures of those maybe tomorrow or the day after once they get a bit more photogenic.

Also, those Pan SAs are gorgeous! I want to grow some after the summer is over, and I have time again for new projects. Hopefully, what I'm learning from Bisporus will be helpful
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog] 5
#28786071 - 05/24/24 10:27 AM (1 month, 3 days ago) |
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Ttbvi. 45 hours post spawn. 1:5 ratio. This culture is insanely fast.
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Awesome job again mycosmith! Yours always look so healthy and happy.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: kirkeng] 4
#28786429 - 05/24/24 03:55 PM (1 month, 3 days ago) |
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Hey old fart. Here is a nother tray i have running right now with more overlay and less fruits.
 I preferd it the other way around. 
But yes i let them colonize for a long time before fruiting. i mix spawn ( feeding maiz) and bulk ( h_poo/ hemp/ straw)in a freezer bag and make a home made filter bag this helps against trips and flis but still give some air exchange.
 Then put in trays and sit for 2-3 weeks. Then i put casing on them and back in a freezer bag without filter for 3-5 days. And then to fruiting for 4-5 weeks and if I am Lucky i get fruits.
 I think I have grown like a hundreds trays and post the ten best in here.
Tree frog and others i got prints and stamps.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: THE MYCOSMITH]
#28786863 - 05/24/24 10:08 PM (1 month, 3 days ago) |
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Appreciate that! I'll send a DM.
Yeah, I'm finding these jars I let consolidate for a few weeks on vacation of Bisporus are doing really well from MS too. And I've also put a lot of time into tweaking casings and am currently doing a similar casing run with the tray lid on askew in the tent and seeing good results with the pinsets (hopefully they mature into nice fruits, we'll see in a few days!).
Substrate I'm moving towards is also including hemp straw, with mixes of compost (manure, leaf litter, or even garden compost) and Supa messaged me yesterday and said his Bisporus is loving the feed corn (makes sense, the hull of corn is the green husk that covers the whole ear, and evidence points towards slow lignin digestion which cereal grain hulls are largely composed of) 
I think a lot of ideas are converging with leaf litter Pans like Bisporus and (I presume from what little I know) Mystery SA.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog] 4
#28787105 - 05/25/24 06:42 AM (1 month, 2 days ago) |
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Pinset leaf compost coir, black kow coir.

Horse manure is a bit slower but maybe will make nicer fruits.
Manure, coir, hemp straw.

Manure, coir.

Going to start more companion planted with wheat grass once the seeds sprout as those were the nicest fruits I've had but it greened out early. I also want to try a half inch casing to hopefully support bigger fruits.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog] 1
#28788483 - 05/26/24 08:43 AM (1 month, 1 day ago) |
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Question. I have two tubs that’ll pin any day now. One cased early and the ph must be low because it’s getting some clouds.

The other is looking better for forming primordia IMO but was slower when spawned because I used less and because it was sterilized poo/grain/verm spawn vs the traditional pasteurized poo like in the first pic.

Both are clone cultures and I’m wondering if I should use some of my leftover casing that’s in the fridge to top off the first pic. Or will they poke through the clouds?
Also, would selecting the mycelium that is less puffy on this plate help with overlay? This culture is fast as fuck either way, but do I want the thin wispy or overly tomentose.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: EniQma] 4
#28788563 - 05/26/24 09:36 AM (1 month, 1 day ago) |
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If the top tray is still colonizing the casing I would add more casing. If it looks like it's done doing that and maybe going to push pins through I would just let it do that. The pin sets not going to be as good but I think it will pin through that overlay.
I don't have any thoughts on your other questions and am curious myself.
Best two trays out of nine. Will definitely be taking some clones today.


It seems like my other trays got to wet. Still finding the balance between casing evaporation and keeping the caps wet like this. Seems I need to run my tent lower and probably hand mist more (I raised rh right after these pinned and I think that affected the other trays).
Started some more with wheat grass. Spawned and cased from aio jars yesterday. Scratched germinated wheat grass into the casing today. Hoping it makes a nice balance of mycelium and grass for pinning.

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog]
#28788613 - 05/26/24 10:20 AM (1 month, 1 day ago) |
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My small sample size says it probably doesn’t correlate too much. But as always grain of salt, I’ve had two maybe three types overlay on me, mystery SA and BVI are the two fresh in my mind. BVI came from a denser puffier culture, mystery SA from sparse thin culture. Thinking back I want to to say a Texas I ran overlayed too and those were always thin and sparse, don’t quote me on that one though, at least the overlay part…
I prefer selecting for thin and sparse personally and only go for thicker puffier growth when I have no other option. BVI for me is notorious for never wanting to do anything but thick growth. The only reason I go for thinner growth is it’s easier for me to see what’s going on on the plate.
Thinking on it some more Bangalore was like that as well, always wanted to be thick, no overlay with those guys though.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: kirkeng]
#28788695 - 05/26/24 11:23 AM (1 month, 1 day ago) |
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I have some BVI going right now and could just tell it was off when I was doing transfers. Puffy marshmallow texture. I only put it to grain bc my options are a little limited at the moment.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Asura]
#28788744 - 05/26/24 11:56 AM (1 month, 1 day ago) |
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That clone culture on agar is from the same fruit. All three grains came out of the same quart jar but one of them already had the puffball attached. When I made transfers this morning of both types of growth I noticed that the puffy mycelium had a wall where it started growing flat again. So that’s where I took from. Could be bacteria making it go airborn?
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: EniQma]
#28788825 - 05/26/24 12:58 PM (1 month, 1 day ago) |
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Is it worth it to clone pans? Or is it more worthwhile to just take prints and grow new generations to get fruit that are hopefully better suited to the specific conditions I provide for it?
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This is just me, so take it lightly. I've never really had amazing success with cloning. Nothing that got me excited about it. I've always gone "the more genetics the better" route. I'll usually just do a grow, print caps I like, do cross swabs of those and grow out again. Rinse and repeat. A few rounds of that and things start looking nice imo. I will save cultures here and there, but that's it.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Asura] 1
#28788839 - 05/26/24 01:14 PM (1 month, 1 day ago) |
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Thats kind of what I figured. The flushes I get are nice enough. Cant imagine cloning would make much of an improvemebt.
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Hallo, may somebody help me? Is this agar fine with those white marks? This show up after 4 weeks rom transfering spores to agar. Thanks!

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Asura]
#28788981 - 05/26/24 03:29 PM (1 month, 1 day ago) |
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Quote:
Asura said: This is just me, so take it lightly. I've never really had amazing success with cloning. Nothing that got me excited about it. I've always gone "the more genetics the better" route. I'll usually just do a grow, print caps I like, do cross swabs of those and grow out again. Rinse and repeat. A few rounds of that and things start looking nice imo. I will save cultures here and there, but that's it.
Damn, I guess I’ll go back to spore if these tubs don’t pan out
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: EniQma] 1
#28789045 - 05/26/24 04:34 PM (1 month, 1 day ago) |
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