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Brow rice flour advice
    #28786940 - 05/24/24 11:16 PM (1 month, 1 day ago)

Sup guys.  Been experimenting with growing. And I'm having trouble getting pins. The last jar took a week to to form mushrooms. But they seem to stall out and stay small. Like stop growing about a quarter inch(6mm). Using a 6k light on 12 hours min. My house temps are around 72f. And I'm using perlite to keep the humidity at 98%.

Yet I see to be doing something wrong. I have a clear tub with a bunch of holes and I air it out several times a day.

Also I soak the mycelium for 8 hours or so.

I guess what I'm looking for is advice or tips. I'm not really sure. I have three of these jars almost all white mycelium now. What would you do?









And this is the image that the last mushrooms kind of stalled out?

Note: Didn't have the lid under the mycelium untill a week into fruiting. I learned that on here

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Re: Brow rice flour advice [Re: mushroommark1]
    #28786956 - 05/25/24 12:14 AM (1 month, 1 day ago)

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I have three of these jars almost all white mycelium now. What would you do?




Stop trying to use an extremely outdated and poorly performing SGFC and switch to a water tub.

Your surface currently looks dry as a desert from all the excessive FAE you are giving them.

BTW your hygrometer is not as accurate as you think it is...

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Re: Brow rice flour advice [Re: PBJ710]
    #28786957 - 05/25/24 12:17 AM (1 month, 1 day ago)

It's dry as hell and those jars look to tall and big,to colonize fast enough.  He says water tub and he isn't wrong but the cake being in unclonized in fruiting is why it's doomed to began with.

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Re: Brow rice flour advice [Re: PBJ710]
    #28786977 - 05/25/24 12:57 AM (1 month, 1 day ago)

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I have three of these jars almost all white mycelium now. What would you do?




Stop trying to use an extremely outdated and poorly performing SGFC and switch to a water tub.

Your surface currently looks dry as a desert from all the excessive FAE you are giving them.

BTW your hygrometer is not as accurate as you think it is...




Would dunking the cake be beneficial at this point?

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Re: Brow rice flour advice [Re: mushroommark1]
    #28786981 - 05/25/24 12:59 AM (1 month, 1 day ago)

And as for the water tub. There saying less FAE is better? And  I coat the soaked mycelium in wet vermiculite?

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Re: Brow rice flour advice [Re: mushroommark1]
    #28786991 - 05/25/24 01:46 AM (1 month, 1 day ago)

I would use water tub with the tek's recommended FAE and mist them heavily when you first put them in there.  If you dunk you're *probably* going to kill those pins/fruits but theres not alot there so it wouldn't be the end of the world if you did.

There is no set XX is better for FAE - there is only what is required to maintain the microclimate inside the tub for the environment that the tub is stored in.  If you put it in a room with a ceiling fan going all day, you'll probably need to further decrease FAE to balance things out...likewise if you put the tub in a stuffy closet with very little airflow you might need to increase the FAE a little to the tub.  Cubes don't need massive amounts of fresh air and but they do need a little.  If you've ever been shroom hunting on a still summer night in the southern US (and by that I mean within 50 miles of the Gulf of Mexico) thats how humid they want to live in. 

You have already rolled the cakes in verm, so you don't need to do it again.

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Re: Brow rice flour advice [Re: PBJ710]
    #28788215 - 05/25/24 10:44 PM (1 month, 15 hours ago)

Aight. Harvested what I had. Made tea. Drank tea. Chilled for hours 😎. Gonna try this a second time

So water tub. Water. Tubing. Cakes rolled in verm sitting on shelf not in water?

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Re: Brow rice flour advice [Re: mushroommark1]
    #28788278 - 05/26/24 12:43 AM (1 month, 13 hours ago)

Yeah, it's just a tub with water in the bottom and the cakes elevated above the water on a rack.  Leave the tub closed for a couple days to help the cakes fuzz up, then crack the lid a bit to allow some FAE to occur.  NEVER fan tubs - thats what your passive FAE is for.  How much you crack the lid will depend on how well your tub's lid closes off airflow and the environmental conditions but it doesn't take a big gap to create plenty of FAE.

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Re: Brow rice flour advice [Re: PBJ710]
    #28788579 - 05/26/24 09:47 AM (1 month, 4 hours ago)

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Yeah, it's just a tub with water in the bottom and the cakes elevated above the water on a rack.  Leave the tub closed for a couple days to help the cakes fuzz up, then crack the lid a bit to allow some FAE to occur.  NEVER fan tubs - thats what your passive FAE is for.  How much you crack the lid will depend on how well your tub's lid closes off airflow and the environmental conditions but it doesn't take a big gap to create plenty of FAE.




Thank you for explanation!
May I ask the benefits of closing it off and letting cakes fuzz up first?

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Re: Brow rice flour advice [Re: mushroommark1]
    #28788587 - 05/26/24 09:55 AM (1 month, 4 hours ago)

A few reasons....theres no significant need for FAE before any growth starts showing up on the surface, it helps retain moisture in the cake to support fruiting and it also helps create nicer surface conditions to encourage better pinsets.  You can overdo it though, so don't leave them completely sealed up for more than a few days.  No FAE for long enough periods will encourage anaerobic bacteria to bloom and possible tissue rotting which is obviously bad for your cakes.

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