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Are you possibly a monk? Official or Not? 1
#28770089 - 05/11/24 01:04 AM (1 month, 16 days ago) |
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There are two times in the cycles of man when sacred societies and religious orders have their largest periods of influx. The first and best is when times are so good, monasticism becomes attractive, because all public works and culture are high and there is both an abundance of activity and abundance from that activity. Days of the Creator's sunshine. The other time are during famines, hardships as many turn away from the world and some turn for the bowl and bed. Not that they are dishonest, they pretty much were anyway and its more like people semi-consciously moving to their places for the ride.
But even if it's "ordinary time" the root of monasticism is "mono" one, "to be alone with God" and people that are like monks mostly but don't have an outfit are called "Religious" as in "deeply" and people who not only patronize a monastery but also join in the projects and works are called "oblates", meaning they wish to join in the offering (of mercy) or focus of the monks and monasteries life. Until the town burns down. Then people move in and get outfits or, there is a gold strike and people can afford more of their luxury and healing time and further devotion. From the first days, monasteries and temples have been centers of learning and the 3 priestly schools of Theology, Agriculture and Medicine were called "the School of life", when survival and quality of life depended on those things.
But just considering you as a person, do you think you - Are deeply affected by the human spiritual and the metaphysical nature of life? - Find most of your attention goes to your own deeply personal faith and religious feelings as opposed to the faith of the group or biblical doctrine? - Have the ability to work or study or practice largely alone and also able to enjoy them with a group? - Wish your life was about as simple as a potato patch, so you could think about and do what you really found self actualizing and fulfilling? - Consider yourself that you are "just as much of a monk as any of them" even though you aren't a member and nobody much knows it? Group affiliation and participation has nothing to do with status and validity? - Express your religious and spiritual feelings without having to use those words? - Feel strong enough in yourself to be unmoved and to listen to the spiritual feelings of others? (A total and constant hazard of the trade, for all feel you will have a grace towards them, know precisely how the world is and are sympathetic to their plight and have "known them forever" and universally, guys accept and respond to that on the golden rule basis. They see a monk through their eyes with no knowledge of his motivation or ministry and many at times feel isolated from others except you. The thinking is, we are warriors of God, maybe doing precisely what he wants us to in just "the works")
- Realize that there are monks who are physical and spiritual hermits and doing anything with outside people is wholly up to each brother? (like what he studies, eats and wears) *some orders are tight about the habit or the veganism, while others consider it optional and for formal) - That your ministry is like your calling, individual to and a product of you and God. - That it is all "always with you" and Church is more about the people meeting and knowing and helping each other because of the "God in them"? (and a dry place for storage and sports equipment)
- Have a sense of inner peace at the idea you are one or would become one? (There are married brothers these days and have been. They're called Tertiaries because they have wives/homes/jobs &etc in the outer)
I'm just curious, the way things have been over the last ten years, how many people have already been becoming more "silently" spiritual or trying to organize their lives and selves more theocentrically or maybe even got ordained? But also people who never even thought of it before and the symptoms partly match now that the outer world has become less peaceful to say the least. Also its something many feel like they "grow into" as their outer and shared fulfillments decrease and their introspection and self listening increase.
At 17, you may want to join the Gilded Prawn, but by 28 you are kinda wishing there really was a rosicrucian lodge of you at your own fountain. Thankfully in most, (If I can be irreverent) the Crowley torches off harsh and reveals the Abramelin that is just tired of fooling with all demons. The world becomes less external, more internal and gratifying.
I suppose people who think we might be on the revelation script are thinking about things too.
In any case, Best Wishes!
-------------------- Yours in the Natural State Land of Enchantment! "When psychotomimetics become cultural, so does cultural psychosis" "The Creator's Glory is the Truth, and the magic mushroom is the proof" - DebE No makin funna my pomes!
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Re: Are you possibly a monk? Official or Not? [Re: curenado]
#28770108 - 05/11/24 01:58 AM (1 month, 15 days ago) |
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Here is a link to a free online version of "The Spiritual Gifts Discovery Tool" I thought might interest you. (The test works whether you are judaeo Christian or not) The Spiritual Gifts Discovery Tool
and I was going to say, I thought about it for 6 years (from 21 to 27) and translated a paper from latin I thought was beatific. It wasn't whether or not I believed, that was already there. I couldn't decide if I wanted to and could have the guts for the truth. That's one of the many gifts of God. At 27, collar and I'd have to look but i think 32 for consecration? I realized I was not able to succeed at secular anything, because I was supposed to be sacred something.
(Oh yeah, the collar decision. I had to have surgery and didn't want to die without it, in case I did. That was it.)
-------------------- Yours in the Natural State Land of Enchantment! "When psychotomimetics become cultural, so does cultural psychosis" "The Creator's Glory is the Truth, and the magic mushroom is the proof" - DebE No makin funna my pomes!
Edited by curenado (05/11/24 04:03 AM)
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Re: Are you possibly a monk? Official or Not? [Re: curenado]
#28770158 - 05/11/24 05:16 AM (1 month, 15 days ago) |
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I already accepted my limitations. I'm hopeless with foreign languages so to speak.
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Re: Are you possibly a monk? Official or Not? [Re: Buster_Brown]
#28783151 - 05/21/24 08:56 PM (1 month, 5 days ago) |
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Buster_Brown said: I already accepted my limitations. I'm hopeless with foreign languages so to speak.
oh its just fishing for the better ones, before the money goes down and the prices go up.
The last great depression saw a huge enrollment and joining of monasteries because there just werent nearly enough farm spots and in need of a bed and a bowl, many men "refound" their simple good will and faith joining monks, soldiers and any guy thing that had a cot and meals involved.
Higher activities and thoughts are for the higher minded though. Look how homelessness is now...but they are content and dont seek out other opportunities for the most part.
But some people will cope with it by trying different things, sprouting new leaves and monk is a pretty happy thing for the most part. We'd be sniffing for the skilled that could be helpful in all areas of farm and production, hoping they didn't decide to rot of dope somewhere and the world lose all their fine divine power.
Anyway it was something ahead of time to think about for people that had the twinge and maybe an idea if they do end up in that hard spot.
I will post some of our "boilerplate" but any monks could put a post in for any of the US societies that people here could get to.
Who wouldn't rather be a plumber or HVAC in a tough time? But there are only so many of those spots too.
-------------------- Yours in the Natural State Land of Enchantment! "When psychotomimetics become cultural, so does cultural psychosis" "The Creator's Glory is the Truth, and the magic mushroom is the proof" - DebE No makin funna my pomes!
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Re: Are you possibly a monk? Official or Not? [Re: curenado]
#28783453 - 05/22/24 05:04 AM (1 month, 4 days ago) |
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Yeah, perhaps there's a Benedictine monetary in Hawaii that could use some help in the garden.
That reminds me of the opening scenes of the Godfather where the old guy dies in the garden while playing with his grandson
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Re: Are you possibly a monk? Official or Not? [Re: Buster_Brown]
#28784136 - 05/22/24 04:21 PM (1 month, 4 days ago) |
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Buster_Brown said: Yeah, perhaps there's a Benedictine monetary in Hawaii that could use some help in the garden.
That reminds me of the opening scenes of the Godfather where the old guy dies in the garden while playing with his grandson
its at 67-290 Farrington Hwy, Waialua, HI 96791
 but those guys are a little strict and I'm not able to remember to be
There is a hindu thing that is supposed to be pretty cool on kauai and some carmelites....no forest ranger monks that i could find though. Sorry
-------------------- Yours in the Natural State Land of Enchantment! "When psychotomimetics become cultural, so does cultural psychosis" "The Creator's Glory is the Truth, and the magic mushroom is the proof" - DebE No makin funna my pomes!
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Re: Are you possibly a monk? Official or Not? [Re: curenado]
#28785705 - 05/24/24 01:03 AM (1 month, 3 days ago) |
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Monk,? Yes because I believe so..
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