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Abilities of the "Multidimensional Self" * 3
    #28779082 - 05/18/24 07:02 PM (1 month, 8 days ago)

Disclaimer: these ideas do not originate with me, I am taking them from the Seth books (channeled by Jane Roberts), and just sharing them as I understand them... and because today Jupiter was conjunct the Sun, making it an auspicious day to explore and appreciate one's talents and abilities.
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Now on to the show. Two aspects to this topic.

First: that we each are aspects of a much larger "multidimensional self" that extends into different incarnations, planets, and spheres of existence, and does so simultaneously. From this perspective, linear time is an illusion. All incarnations of a soul are occurring at once. Furthermore, they all have certain interactions and exchanges with one another (they inform one another).

Neal Cassady once said, "we are actually fourth dimensional beings in a third dimensional body inhabiting a second dimensional world." A great quote. However, for the purpose of this topic, imagine that the number of dimensions that we "occupy" actually has no limit.
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Second: By "remembering" or "making contact" with our "other selves" that are part of our multidimensional complex, we can access and use abilities, powers, and siddhis (just different words for the same thing as I am applying them) that come naturally to our "other selves" and which then percolate into our present self in this world.

According to Seth:
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Any of those directions, followed, can enrich the existence that you know, and in turn open up other probabilities that now escape you. The main image of yourself that you have held has, to a large extent, also closed your mind to these other probable interests and identifications. If you think in terms of a multidimensional self, then you will realize that you have many more avenues open to expression and fulfillment than you have been using. These probable achievements will lie latent unless you consciously decide to bring them into being.

Whatever talents you sense you have can be developed only if you determine to do so. The simple act of decision will then activate the unconscious mechanisms. You, as a personality, regardless of your health, wealth or circumstances, have a rich variety of probable experience from which to choose. Consciously you must realize this and seize the direction for your own life. Even if you say, "I will go along with all life offers," you are making a conscious decision. If you say, "I am powerless to direct my life," you are also making a deliberate choice - and in that case a limiting one.

(Pause.) The path of experience is nowhere settled. There is no one road that does not have avenues to another. There are deep veins of probable actions ever available to you at any given time. Your imagination can be of great value, allowing you to open yourself to such courses; you can then use it to help you bring these into being.





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Of course, "powers" used to glorify the ego will lead to a dead-end, but powers can be enjoyed and utilized in service of creation and the highest good. See passage from A Course in Miracles:

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25. Are “Psychic” Powers Desirable?

1. The answer to this question is much like the preceding one. ²There are, of course, no “unnatural” powers, and it is obviously merely an appeal to magic to make up a power that does not exist. ³It is equally obvious, however, that each individual has many abilities of which he is unaware. ⁴As his awareness increases, he may well develop abilities that seem quite startling to him. ⁵Yet nothing he can do can compare even in the slightest with the glorious surprise of remembering Who he is. ⁶Let all his learning and all his efforts be directed toward this one great final surprise, and he will not be content to be delayed by the little ones that may come to him on the way.

2. Certainly there are many “psychic” powers that are clearly in line with this course. ²Communication is not limited to the small range of channels the world recognizes. ³If it were, there would be little point in trying to teach salvation. ⁴It would be impossible to do so. ⁵The limits the world places on communication are the chief barriers to direct experience of the Holy Spirit, Whose Presence is always there and Whose Voice is available but for the hearing. ⁶These limits are placed out of fear, for without them the walls that surround all the separate places of the world would fall at the holy sound of His Voice. ⁷Who transcends these limits in any way is merely becoming more natural. ⁸He is doing nothing special, and there is no magic in his accomplishments.

3. The seemingly new abilities that may be gathered on the way can be very helpful. ²Given to the Holy Spirit, and used under His direction, they are valuable teaching aids. ³To this, the question of how they arise is irrelevant. ⁴The only important consideration is how they are used. ⁵Taking them as ends in themselves, no matter how this is done, will delay progress. ⁶Nor does their value lie in proving anything; achievements from the past, unusual attunement with the “unseen,” or “special” favors from God. ⁷God gives no special favors, and no one has any powers that are not available to everyone. ⁸Only by tricks of magic are special powers “demonstrated.”

4. Nothing that is genuine is used to deceive. ²The Holy Spirit is incapable of deception, and He can use only genuine abilities. ³What is used for magic is useless to Him. ⁴But what He uses cannot be used for magic. ⁵There is, however, a particular appeal in unusual abilities that can be curiously tempting. ⁶Here are strengths which the Holy Spirit wants and needs. ⁷Yet the ego sees in these same strengths an opportunity to glorify itself. ⁸Strengths turned to weakness are tragedy indeed. ⁹Yet what is not given to the Holy Spirit must be given to weakness, for what is withheld from love is given to fear, and will be fearful in consequence.

5. Even those who no longer value the material things of the world may still be deceived by “psychic” powers. ²As investment has been withdrawn from the world’s material gifts, the ego has been seriously threatened. ³It may still be strong enough to rally under this new temptation to win back strength by guile. ⁴Many have not seen through the ego’s defenses here, although they are not particularly subtle. ⁵Yet, given a remaining wish to be deceived, deception is made easy. ⁶Now the “power” is no longer a genuine ability, and cannot be used dependably. ⁷It is almost inevitable that, unless the individual changes his mind about its purpose, he will bolster his “power’s” uncertainties with increasing deception.

6. Any ability that anyone develops has the potentiality for good. ²To this there is no exception. ³And the more unusual and unexpected the power, the greater its potential usefulness. ⁴Salvation has need of all abilities, for what the world would destroy the Holy Spirit would restore. ⁵“Psychic” abilities have been used to call upon the devil, which merely means to strengthen the ego. ⁶Yet here is also a great channel of hope and healing in the Holy Spirit’s service. ⁷Those who have developed “psychic” powers have simply let some of the limitations they laid upon their minds be lifted. ⁸It can be but further limitations they lay upon themselves if they utilize their increased freedom for greater imprisonment. ⁹The Holy Spirit needs these gifts, and those who offer them to Him and Him alone go with Christ’s gratitude upon their hearts, and His holy sight not far behind. (https://acim.org/acim/en/s/840#1:1-6:9 | M-25.1:1–6:9)






May you all remember and access your latent talents!


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Re: Abilities of the "Multidimensional Self" [Re: Blue Cthulhu]
    #28779299 - 05/18/24 09:53 PM (1 month, 8 days ago)

The part on communication is timely confirmation for me, "not limited to the small range of channels the world recognizes.", meaning the thought of abidance extending.

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Re: Abilities of the "Multidimensional Self" [Re: syncro]
    #28779607 - 05/19/24 07:24 AM (1 month, 7 days ago)

I like the multidimensional self model. Me Vishnu.

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Re: Abilities of the "Multidimensional Self" [Re: syncro] * 1
    #28779672 - 05/19/24 08:06 AM (1 month, 7 days ago)

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syncro said:
The part on communication is timely confirmation for me, "not limited to the small range of channels the world recognizes.", meaning the thought of abidance extending.




I appreciated that part too! If the world rests on the fundamental belief in separateness, then communication of any kind would be seen as faulty, at best. But if we are all already One, then communication is perfect and instantaneous.


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Re: Abilities of the "Multidimensional Self" [Re: Blue Cthulhu]
    #28780797 - 05/20/24 02:05 AM (1 month, 6 days ago)

“When you do not know what to do, relax and tell yourself that other portions of yourself do know; they will take over. Give yourself some rest. Remind yourself that in many ways you are a very successful person as you are. Success does not necessarily involve great intellect or great position or great wealth; it has to do with inner integrity. Remember that.”

I like this affirmation, perfect for the anxieties which translate to not "knowing what to do."

Other parts of me know better about it and I'll just relax, bringing it in. It serves the purpose of 'asking' with ease, and implicitly calls for addressing whatever is present. It's a facet of seeing any problem as separation.

Now if I can only remember. Other parts of me know better about it. :smile:

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Re: Abilities of the "Multidimensional Self" [Re: syncro]
    #28780804 - 05/20/24 02:15 AM (1 month, 6 days ago)

Is there ever a time one would not bring in another level to that of ego? It helps move out of the way.

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Re: Abilities of the "Multidimensional Self" [Re: syncro]
    #28780819 - 05/20/24 02:45 AM (1 month, 6 days ago)

My whole waking state will now be, "other parts of me know better." :lol:

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Re: Abilities of the "Multidimensional Self" [Re: syncro]
    #28780929 - 05/20/24 06:07 AM (1 month, 6 days ago)

I noticed the exercise reveal the tendency to hold onto a mode of perception, but the least another level would do is change perception.

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Re: Abilities of the "Multidimensional Self" [Re: syncro]
    #28781017 - 05/20/24 08:14 AM (1 month, 6 days ago)

I hear ya, seems to fit with experiences I’ve had lately of learning to “shift frames of reference and perception .” What angle to look at things from? And which “self” has the most helpful frame at this moment?

Like, there are infinite ways to reorganize all the variables of reality to see them in a new light.

But you’re right, there does seem to be a mighty inertia maintaining habitual ways of seeing and doing.


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Re: Abilities of the "Multidimensional Self" [Re: Blue Cthulhu]
    #28781300 - 05/20/24 01:49 PM (1 month, 6 days ago)

I should say it would be good if it changes (sensory) perception, but I imagine the least would be to introduce a different line of thought, and then wondered if each thought may imply a change in perception.

Edited by syncro (05/20/24 01:51 PM)

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Re: Abilities of the "Multidimensional Self" [Re: syncro]
    #28781502 - 05/20/24 05:47 PM (1 month, 6 days ago)

28 gifts of the moon. 28 digits palm side of hand
Not sure what all our gifts are.

I feel we have more than 5 senses.

Eye jitsus are real
Hearing from a distance is the gift of sound
Remote viewing

Maybe if we pay attention to what animals can do we might heighten our senses.

Thought about this idea as well. Every hair has a sense

Every tooth a form of thought. If you put your tongue on a tooth every tooth has a mode of thought.
Jist have to mental blink quick

Astral projection as well.

Edited by dreamninja (05/20/24 05:49 PM)

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Re: Abilities of the "Multidimensional Self" [Re: dreamninja]
    #28781651 - 05/20/24 07:32 PM (1 month, 6 days ago)

Interesting, had to look up eye jitsus as I hadn't heard of that term. Guess it's big in an anime series called Naruto
https://screenrant.com/naruto-anime-every-eye-technique-sharingan/

Makes me think of the "glance of the guru," according to which even a brief moment of locking eyes with an ascended master can shower one with grace and removing of inner obstacles to the infinite. 



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Re: Abilities of the "Multidimensional Self" [Re: Blue Cthulhu]
    #28788337 - 05/26/24 05:12 AM (1 month, 19 hours ago)

Do you think Seth is implying our multidimension is all of us with the superself described as say the master or deity etc, or, do you think it's more like your own subset, a family of souls, soul group perhaps? At first I was going with the latter which seems implied. Both work together anyway in a sense, but I was wondering who was the superself in the local set. I guess they're all me, but this me or another me? If another me, the impulse was to plan protests, revolution, intrigue.

Needless to say, lol.

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Re: Abilities of the "Multidimensional Self" [Re: syncro]
    #28788428 - 05/26/24 07:47 AM (1 month, 17 hours ago)

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Any creative work involves you in a cooperative process in which you learn to dip
into these other streams of consciousness, and come up with a perception that has far
more dimensions than one arising from the one narrow, usual stream of consciousness
that you know. Great creativity is then multidimensional for this reason. Its origin is
not from one reality, but from many, and it is tinged with the multiplicity of that origin.

Great creativity always seems greater than its pure physical dimension and reality.
By contrast with the so-called usual, it appears almost as an intrusion. It takes the
breath away. Such creativity automatically reminds each man of his own
multidimensional reality. The words "know thyself," therefore, mean far more than most
people ever suppose.



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Re: Abilities of the "Multidimensional Self" [Re: syncro]
    #28788577 - 05/26/24 09:46 AM (1 month, 15 hours ago)

Regarding the superself, browsing old journal entries:

"When I catch a reflection, who do I see?"

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Re: Abilities of the "Multidimensional Self" [Re: syncro]
    #28789370 - 05/26/24 09:05 PM (1 month, 4 hours ago)

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syncro said:
Do you think Seth is implying our multidimension is all of us with the superself described as say the master or deity etc, or, do you think it's more like your own subset, a family of souls, soul group perhaps? At first I was going with the latter which seems implied. Both work together anyway in a sense, but I was wondering who was the superself in the local set. I guess they're all me, but this me or another me? If another me, the impulse was to plan protests, revolution, intrigue.

Needless to say, lol.




I'll have to find the passage in which he gets at more of this... it might be in his second book, I can't remember though. But he uses the analogy of cells in an organ in a body, to souls in larger conglomerations. I did interpret it as our own subsets (great term! I like it), AKA "soul groups" as you say, which gets at more of the feeling of "family," with clusters of souls being more intimate with one another, but also part of a larger clan, nation, planet, etc.

Seems like he revels in the differentiation of Being, no?

But a super self... well let's say there is a soul group unit that is akin to an organ in a body, with each soul being like a cell in that organ. Then, the super self would be the organ or soul group operating as one, unified, harmonious unit. But, each cell/soul would still retain its individuality and relative autonomy and creative impulse.

If I remember right, when he uses this analogy, it makes Jane Roberts a bit uncomfortable. Maybe something about being part of a larger entity is disorienting... at least to our usual worldview.


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Re: Abilities of the "Multidimensional Self" [Re: Blue Cthulhu]
    #28789381 - 05/26/24 09:13 PM (1 month, 3 hours ago)

I have more to say on this topic... it's really fascinating.

I have wondered if the rise in popularity of concepts like "twin flames" in the past decade is not so random, but due to something brewing in the collective unconscious of humanity, something to do with us gradually becoming aware of our deeper connections in the Spirit World, and that awareness reshaping how we approach relationships in the physical world (in profound ways).

I had a vision that perhaps certain soul groups will rapidly "enlighten" in the sense of becoming aware of their multidimensional selves and their eternal spirit family status, and then like fire spreading from one torch to another, more and more soul groups will start to light up while in physical form on Earth. And that this will reflect the phase change in consciousness that Earth will undergo (already is undergoing).

In Autobiography of a Yogi, Yogananda recounts meeting his master for the first time, but the two recognized each other immediately and were in tears at the re-union, which on some level they had been awaiting for a long time.


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    #28789578 - 05/27/24 05:48 AM (30 days, 19 hours ago)

'I had a vision that perhaps certain soul groups will rapidly "enlighten"'.

I had not explicitly recalled the fractal nature of each 'cell' that reflects the whole, nor would a group lack reflection of a larger whole.

If there is synergy that the group outsums their sum, then also one affects all profoundly, especially if of enlightened intent. If there is one among you, how could the rest not rise since they are you?

I also thought of the idea of spirit guides, the ones that have been helping since long before the guided is ready or opportuned for more dharmic things. Once one follows the enlightened, that group, though never forgotten or absent, lets one move through to the temple. It just seems there can never be a static group, not that any are lost that are loved.

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Re: Abilities of the "Multidimensional Self" [Re: syncro]
    #28789731 - 05/27/24 08:38 AM (30 days, 16 hours ago)

The different uses of the term consciousness, like compared to Vasistha, these from Seth.

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You are, as I said earlier, a spirit now; and that spirit has a consciousness. The
consciousness belongs to the spirit then, but the two are not the same. The spirit may
turn its consciousness off and on. By its nature consciousness may flicker and
fluctuate, but the spirit does not.




Quote:

I do not particularly like the word "spirit" because of several implications attached to
it, but it suits our purposes in that the word does imply an independence from physical
form.



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Re: Abilities of the "Multidimensional Self" [Re: Blue Cthulhu]
    #28789917 - 05/27/24 11:15 AM (30 days, 13 hours ago)

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Blue Cthulhu said:
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syncro said:
The part on communication is timely confirmation for me, "not limited to the small range of channels the world recognizes.", meaning the thought of abidance extending.




I appreciated that part too! If the world rests on the fundamental belief in separateness, then communication of any kind would be seen as faulty, at best. But if we are all already One, then communication is perfect and instantaneous.




It already is. We put up filters and wards and gaurds to maintain the focus of our attention and not get "all dissolved" in it.
Already know? Just can't

I enjoy doing human experiments to see how much we can amplify whatever a person does have. you have some nice health foods and maybe some other things and twice a week, we zap you for cleaning and once a week we apply coils to your head. 6 weeks and you get the better of the results, whatever they are.
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