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Re: Canadian Youth find US Empire to be Evil [Re: Ancalagon]
#2882710 - 07/12/04 03:00 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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He's Canadian, what do you expect?
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Re: Canadian Youth find US Empire to be Evil [Re: Innvertigo]
#2883006 - 07/12/04 05:03 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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Id just like to say that i have never been polled ever.
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Re: Canadian Youth find US Empire to be Evil [Re: trendal]
#2883713 - 07/12/04 08:09 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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The problem seems to be that Swami wasn't directly quoting any article on the Fox News website, rather he was paraphrasing what he saw on a Fox political discussion show. The poll being discussed on the show was not done by Fox, it was done by the Canadian media company CanWest. Some 634 (or 643 -- I can't be bothered to dig back through my brouser history) Canadians aged 14 to 18 were polled. Forty per cent of those polled said (and I can't find the exact wording of the question or of any of the other questions in the poll) they felt America was an evil influence on the world. The teenagers in Quebec were even more critical than those in Canada as a whole -- 64 per cent of the Quebecois teens said they felt America was an evil influence on the world. Figures. pinky
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Re: Canadian Youth find US Empire to be Evil [Re: Swami]
#2884605 - 07/13/04 12:28 AM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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Fox robots made me laugh by saying... "If only we could tell them how great Bush is (over and over and over again) and how evil Arabs are, then these screwed up kids could see the light."
Who exactly on Fox News sayd Arabs were evil?
My guess is that Canadian kids are as stupid as American kids and also that this poll is meaningless.
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Re: Canadian Youth find US Empire to be Evil [Re: no-tone]
#2884626 - 07/13/04 12:37 AM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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You know even less about America than most Americans do aboat Canada.
Fascinating!
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Re: Canadian Youth find US Empire to be Evil [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#2884706 - 07/13/04 01:21 AM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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...and also that this poll is meaningless
How others view our nation is far from meaningless.
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Re: Canadian Youth find US Empire to be Evil [Re: Swami]
#2884796 - 07/13/04 02:17 AM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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That's not what I said.
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Re: Canadian Youth find US Empire to be Evil [Re: Swami]
#2884877 - 07/13/04 03:06 AM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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I have an open question for anybody that'll take it.
Why do Canadian youth think that the US is an evil influence?
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Re: Canadian Youth find US Empire to be Evil [Re: Kasumeat]
#2884897 - 07/13/04 03:26 AM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
Kasumeat said: I have an open question for anybody that'll take it.
Why do Canadian youth think that the US is an evil influence?
probably because they start unjust wars around the world and tend to give large sums of money to dictatorships and terrorists. And because US foreign policy tends to create sharp divisions among people and increase world conflict levels.
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Re: Canadian Youth find US Empire to be Evil [Re: Positronius]
#2884918 - 07/13/04 03:39 AM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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Couldn't have said it better.
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Re: Canadian Youth find US Empire to be Evil [Re: Kasumeat]
#2884991 - 07/13/04 04:42 AM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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Kasumeat writes:
Why do Canadian youth think that the US is an evil influence?
Because they have been educated in government schools. Worse, they have been educated in Canadian government schools. The anti-American bias in Canadian textbooks is blatant. And of course, the faculties are composed overwhelmingly of Lefties.
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Re: Canadian Youth find US Empire to be Evil [Re: Phred]
#2885735 - 07/13/04 11:25 AM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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You mean Anti-Americanism isn't censored by the government like (from what I gather from another thread in this forum) anti-jew, or anti-muslim, or racism is?
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Re: Canadian Youth find US Empire to be Evil [Re: Phred]
#2886735 - 07/13/04 03:57 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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So the answer is ALL brain-washing? Easy write-off...
It is not possible that they are disgusted with US corporate fraud, the world's largest weapons aresenal, the world's largest weapons dealer and the hypocritical stance of peace while adventuring in many countries around the world?
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Re: Canadian Youth find US Empire to be Evil [Re: Swami]
#2887299 - 07/13/04 07:09 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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Swami writes:
It is not possible that they are disgusted with US corporate fraud, the world's largest weapons aresenal, the world's largest weapons dealer and the hypocritical stance of peace while adventuring in many countries around the world?
Swami, the kids who gave that answer are as young as fourteen years old, fa cryin' out loud. I don't know about you, but when I was fourteen years old I wasn't avidly watching TV political discussion forums and reading every last word on the Op-Ed pages and checking weighty tomes on US history out of the library. I was smoking dope, hanging out with my friends and trying to get laid. Hell, I was still doing two out of three of those things when I was eighteen (the age of the oldest respondents).
The majority of what I knew about "corporate fraud" (and yes, astonishing as it may seem, there is corporate fraud in Canada as well) -- by the way, how does corporate fraud make the US an evil influence in the world? -- the size of the US nuclear arsenal, and the number of weapons sold by the US (you might want to check your claim about the world's largest arms dealer), and the amount of US intervention abroad when I was a teenager came from history and social studies classes in high school. I doubt Canadian fifteen and sixteen year olds today are a whole lot different.
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Re: Canadian Youth find US Empire to be Evil [Re: Phred]
#2887320 - 07/13/04 07:24 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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pink:
The anti-American bias in Canadian textbooks is blatant. And of course, the faculties are composed overwhelmingly of Lefties.
---can I see your source on this one, because I dont recall any anti-american sentiment in our textbooks. Actually, my senior history teacher was an American ex-pat, and the curriculum was pro-american if it was biased at all.
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Re: Canadian Youth find US Empire to be Evil [Re: Positronius]
#2887383 - 07/13/04 07:45 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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My source? How about the textbooks I was given in school? I was born and raised in Canada. Spent the first three and a half decades of my life there. I wasn't the only one in my classes who noticed (and commented on) the anti-American slant, and this was in the Hippie era, with Viet Nam on the news every night -- it was pretty much a given in my peer group that Johnson, McNamara, Nixon and Kissinger were evil dudes, but even some of us found the unrelenting slant to be just too blatant to swallow all of it unquestioningly.
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Re: Canadian Youth find US Empire to be Evil [Re: Phred]
#2887430 - 07/13/04 08:01 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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Here's a more recent source than my memories of high school --
http://www.canadafreepress.com/2004/main060704.htm
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Re: Canadian Youth find US Empire to be Evil [Re: Phred]
#2887438 - 07/13/04 08:03 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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okay, well first off, we are talking about modern youth
and secondly, Nixon, McNamera, Johnson, Kissinger.
um......Kissinger is a war criminal, McNamera is an admitted war criminal, Nixon is a crook, and Johnson is a complete idiot (says McNamera)
a purely objective analysis if these figures reveals them to be far more "evil" than "good".
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Re: Canadian Youth find US Empire to be Evil [Re: Positronius]
#2887453 - 07/13/04 08:07 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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ah, "Canadian free press" right,. nice source, must be objective with links to Coulter and Rush. Sorry, you are going to have to provide me with a more respectable source than that. I might read it if I can find the time, but I dont trust obvious right-wing sources with obvious right-wing agendas.
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Re: Canadian Youth find US Empire to be Evil [Re: Positronius]
#2887536 - 07/13/04 08:36 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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LOL!
Read it, then check the credentials of the woman who produced the research and presented the paper at the convention. The Free Press was the first link I came across that had it, but there were two or three others as well on the Google search page. Don't like the Freep? Fine, pick another. It doesn't change the fact that the woman did the study (of some 75 Canadian textbooks) nor does it alter her findings.
Why do you bother asking me for sources if your stubborn Leftist bias prevents you from reading those sources? Do your own work next time. Don't expect me to spoonfeed you. Hell, with a little poking around you could probably find a pdf file of the entire study somewhere -- maybe at the University of Manitoba website. Go for it.
By the way, the Free Press also reported on the September 11, 2001 attacks. Does this mean the attacks never happened? They also reported that Paul Martin won the election. Does this mean Paul Martin is not the PM of Canada?
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