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Re: Canadian Youth find US Empire to be Evil [Re: Innvertigo]
    #2881840 - 07/12/04 11:10 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

"40% of Canada's teenagers believe the USA to be an evil influence in the world"

An "evil influence in the world"...ok...so then where does it say that Americans themselves are evil? If you want to get picky, it doesn't even say that America is evil, just that it is an "evil influence" :wink:


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Re: Canadian Youth find US Empire to be Evil [Re: trendal]
    #2881866 - 07/12/04 11:19 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

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An "evil influence in the world"...ok...so then where does it say that Americans themselves are evil?




who makes up the USA? Canadians?

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If you want to get picky, it doesn't even say that America is evil, just that it is an "evil influence"




oh Lord, you're stretching now. I'm one of those weird people who actually think that words mean things.


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Re: Canadian Youth find US Empire to be Evil [Re: Innvertigo]
    #2881883 - 07/12/04 11:22 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Yes you appear to like stretching those meanings to cover things that aren't said in the original sentence :smirk:

I live here (Canada) and everyone I've talked to has said the same thing: your (America's) government is fucked up...but Americans themselves are just the same as we are. If you want to dissagree with someone who lives here and agree with Fox News instead...well go ahead but that's the end of our conversation :smirk:


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Re: Canadian Youth find US Empire to be Evil [Re: trendal]
    #2881915 - 07/12/04 11:33 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

I think the United States lack of culture, lack of respect for other people's culture and capitalism is an evil influence on the world.

I'm American and I don't think all American's are evil.

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Re: Canadian Youth find US Empire to be Evil [Re: trendal]
    #2881918 - 07/12/04 11:34 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

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I live here (Canada) and everyone I've talked to has said the same thing: your (America's) government is fucked up...but Americans themselves are just the same as we are.




Funny thing...

I live here (America, well, I used to) and everyone I've talked to has said the same thing: our (America's) government is fucked up... now if only we Americans can figure out a way to take control of our country back from all of these career politicians... *sigh*


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Re: Canadian Youth find US Empire to be Evil [Re: trendal]
    #2881921 - 07/12/04 11:35 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

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Yes you appear to like stretching those meanings to cover things that aren't said in the original sentence




what was the topic of discussion in this thread? better yet just read the first sentance.

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live here (Canada) and everyone I've talked to has said the same thing: your (America's) government is fucked up...




the government is fine, those in charge of the Govt. are the fucked up ones.

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but Americans themselves are just the same as we are.




similar, not the same.

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If you want to dissagree with someone who lives here and agree with Fox News instead...well go ahead but that's the end of our conversation




I'm just discussing the topic. If it was so wrong, why didn't any Canadians deny it? I tend to take many Fox News polls with a grain of salt. I like you question many things. When I see a poll that says 40% of Canadians think A or B, I want to know what A or B is and why. You may not like people questioning the motives but that's just me being me.


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Re: Canadian Youth find US Empire to be Evil [Re: newuser1492]
    #2881924 - 07/12/04 11:37 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

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I think the United States lack of culture, lack of respect for other people's culture and capitalism is an evil influence on the world.




I think we have a diverse culture, that can't be argued. Capitalism is a trait I am proud of concerning the United States.


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Re: Canadian Youth find US Empire to be Evil [Re: Innvertigo]
    #2881927 - 07/12/04 11:37 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

If it was so wrong, why didn't any Canadians deny it?

You've got one denying it right here, eh :smile:


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Re: Canadian Youth find US Empire to be Evil [Re: trendal]
    #2881952 - 07/12/04 11:48 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

I was going to question your Canadian heritage but you did end the sentance with an "eh". It's good to know that a percentage (the size may be debateable) of Canadians know that the American public is not evil.


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Re: Canadian Youth find US Empire to be Evil [Re: Innvertigo]
    #2881967 - 07/12/04 11:56 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Most of us have been to America many times and have met plenty of Americans, so it's quite easy to see the difference (and it's a DISTINCT difference) between your average American citizen and the views of those "in power" in America.


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Re: Canadian Youth find US Empire to be Evil [Re: trendal]
    #2882013 - 07/12/04 12:09 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

I think that would apply to just aboot all other countries as well.


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Re: Canadian Youth find US Empire to be Evil [Re: Innvertigo]
    #2882031 - 07/12/04 12:14 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

aboot :lol:

And yes, you are entirely correct! One of the greatest things about this little toy we call "the internet" is that it allows us to all come into contact with people from other cultures. Over the past 10 years it (the net) has taught me time and time again that we are, for the most part, not that different from eachother! Even when we grow up on opposite sides of the planet...the differences are minor and unimportant!


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Re: Canadian Youth find US Empire to be Evil [Re: trendal]
    #2882059 - 07/12/04 12:20 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

ya like that? :grin:

Another thing the Internet has showed me is that there are many in this world that participate in class warfare.  I thought that was uniquly American.


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Re: Canadian Youth find US Empire to be Evil [Re: Innvertigo]
    #2882064 - 07/12/04 12:21 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Actually, the US basically depends on our oil, lumber and CLEAN WATER.


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Re: Canadian Youth find US Empire to be Evil [Re: no-tone]
    #2882102 - 07/12/04 12:31 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Again: we depend on eachother. It is pointless to try and speak of this as a one-sided issue, because it isn?t. Our economies are so intertwined that we basically have a single economy. We use eachother?s resources at a nearly 50/50 share.



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Re: Canadian Youth find US Empire to be Evil [Re: no-tone]
    #2882124 - 07/12/04 12:36 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

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Actually, the US basically depends on our oil, lumber and CLEAN WATER.




Actually no....


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Re: Canadian Youth find US Empire to be Evil [Re: trendal]
    #2882129 - 07/12/04 12:37 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

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We use eachother's resources at a nearly 50/50 share.




that's why we call you the 51st state. :smirk:


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Re: Canadian Youth find US Empire to be Evil [Re: newuser1492]
    #2882291 - 07/12/04 01:22 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

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I think the United States lack of culture, lack of respect for other people's culture and capitalism is an evil influence on the world.



I think if the rest of the world were Laissez-Faire our quasi-socialist system would be an evil influence on the world. Right now it is not a good influence on the world because of how directly government intervenes in our economy. Even as it is though, I'll take our current mess of a system over Canada's socialist paradise(see: shithole).


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Re: Canadian Youth find US Empire to be Evil [Re: Innvertigo]
    #2882496 - 07/12/04 02:10 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Think of it this way:

What would happen to the US if Canada staunched the flow all of the commodities i just mentioned?

I'm not even talking abour economics.
The US would have to invade Canada to survive, not to mention keep its economy alive. However, Canada could survive completely on its own agriculture (remember New York City has a larger population than Canada as a whole), fuel and lumber.


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Re: Canadian Youth find US Empire to be Evil [Re: no-tone]
    #2882520 - 07/12/04 02:14 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

oh, and i forgot CLEAN WATER.


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