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Canadian Youth find US Empire to be Evil
    #2877767 - 07/11/04 12:04 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Fox TV News: Recent poll finds 40% of Canada's teenagers believe the USA to be an evil influence in the world.

Fox robots made me laugh by saying that is was because Fox News was not shown in Canada and blamed the attitude all on the media. "If only we could tell them how great Bush is (over and over and over again) and how evil Arabs are, then these screwed up kids could see the light."

Unlike many of the drones here who will chime in "Fuck Canada", I think this requires a little more in-depth investigation and soul-searching.

"Might" may certainly "make right", but it doesn't make one's actions morally and ethically grounded. This negative perceptual reflection certainly tells America how other's view her.


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Re: Canadian Youth find US Empire to be Evil [Re: Swami]
    #2878673 - 07/11/04 06:08 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Probably around the same percentage as American youths.


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Re: Canadian Youth find US Empire to be Evil [Re: Swami]
    #2878761 - 07/11/04 06:29 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)


I've been thinking about all the hatred of Americans I'm seeing in the news and on the internet and recently thought of the huge nuclear arsonal the USA has built up during the arms race with the Soviet Union. I don't think much effort has been made to reduce this stockpile. I believe the USA has enough nuclear weapons to destroy all life on earth, so I was thinking, how could I get my country to launch all the nuclear weapons and destroy the entire human race? I don't think I could be elected president, so maybe if I got together with some other people we could possibly take over the whitehouse, take the president prisoner before most of the country discovered what was going on, torture the president and get him to give us the codes and the procedures which would allow us to launch all the nuclear missiles from the silos, launch the planes and missiles from the submarines and destroy everything on earth. That way there would be no one left to hate anyone. Death before dishonor I always say. We were ready to do this with the Soviet Union before it fell. Better dead than red as they say.


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Re: Canadian Youth find US Empire to be Evil [Re: Ed1]
    #2878778 - 07/11/04 06:31 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Er...double post...


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Re: Canadian Youth find US Empire to be Evil [Re: Swami]
    #2878798 - 07/11/04 06:34 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

"...at a time when even when you cross the Canadian border you meet an awful lot of people who think the number one rogue nation in the world today is the United States of America!" -- Jello Biafra


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Re: Canadian Youth find US Empire to be Evil [Re: Swami]
    #2880182 - 07/12/04 01:25 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I am Canadian.

I am 19.

What America (Bush) is doing to the world is horrendous. That is all.


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Re: Canadian Youth find US Empire to be Evil [Re: Tasty_Smurf_House]
    #2880253 - 07/12/04 01:43 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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Tasty_Smurf_House said:
I am Canadian.

I am 19.

What America (Bush) is doing to the world is horrendous. That is all.




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Re: Canadian Youth find US Empire to be Evil [Re: Swami]
    #2880341 - 07/12/04 02:05 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

The current US govt is of course a horrid influence on humanity, but its not so simple....

the problem is, the US tends to get pegged as the progenitor of all the world's ills because they tend to be involved in most of the problems, but they shouldnt be made to bear all of the guilt.

current global conflicts are created by a number of actors, not by one. Britain, France, Israel, various arab states, N. Korea, China. All of these groups of elite governments deserve to share part of the blame. The US gets blamed for all because they are the most easily identifiable, and come under the most scrutiny, and thus get the most bad press and attention.


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Re: Canadian Youth find US Empire to be Evil [Re: Positronius]
    #2881203 - 07/12/04 06:12 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

We know North Korea and various arab nations are evil.


Also: how was this poll conducted? because my answer to the following questons are all different:


1-"Do you think George Bush is evil?"

2-"Do you think George Bush is good or evil?"

3-"pick a word to describe George Bush"

4-"do you think the American government is evil?"

5-"do you think the average American is evil?"


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Re: Canadian Youth find US Empire to be Evil [Re: Swami]
    #2881245 - 07/12/04 07:01 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

The Canadian youth doesn't realize that they're cutting off their nose to spite their face.


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Re: Canadian Youth find US Empire to be Evil [Re: Innvertigo]
    #2881328 - 07/12/04 08:49 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

> The Canadian youth doesn't realize that they're cutting off their nose to spite their face.

Whent he nose grows cancerous, you gotta do what you gotta do...


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Re: Canadian Youth find US Empire to be Evil [Re: Seuss]
    #2881333 - 07/12/04 08:54 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Whether you want to admit it or not, Canada depends on trade with the US, more than we depend on them. I have no problem with them having issues with the Government but calling America evil is a nice way of alienating yourself from American markets that are run by the same Americans many are calling evil.

edit: besides, it seems that it's always been 40% that are mad at our government.


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Edited by Innvertigo (07/12/04 08:55 AM)


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Re: Canadian Youth find US Empire to be Evil [Re: Innvertigo]
    #2881522 - 07/12/04 11:10 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

http://www.eia.doe.gov/neic/rankings/crudebycountry.htm

It seems the US depends on Canada for a rather large amount of oil.


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Rank Country of Origin Thousand Barrels/day
3 Canada 1,445




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Re: Canadian Youth find US Empire to be Evil [Re: cb9fl]
    #2881690 - 07/12/04 12:15 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Oil isn't everything. I think we could adapt. I doubt Canada could.


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Re: Canadian Youth find US Empire to be Evil [Re: Swami]
    #2881696 - 07/12/04 12:18 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Recent poll finds 40% of Canada's teenagers believe the USA to be an evil influence in the world.

:rotfl:

and i thought our youth were ill-informed.


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Re: Canadian Youth find US Empire to be Evil [Re: Innvertigo]
    #2881763 - 07/12/04 12:41 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Canada depends on trade with the US, more than we depend on them.

Canada is your largest trading partner. We also supply a hefty ammount of your energy needs. We are both in this together...stop being so arrogant in trying to say you could do without us but we couldn't do without you. Neither of our countries would be well off without the other.


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Re: Canadian Youth find US Empire to be Evil [Re: trendal]
    #2881782 - 07/12/04 12:48 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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Canada is your largest trading partner.




it is, I know this.

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We also supply a hefty ammount of your energy needs. We are both in this together




we're not together if 40% or your morons think Americans are evil. Personally I say fuck em.

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stop being so arrogant in trying to say you could do without us but we couldn't do without you.




not arrogant, just truthful. Don't be so naive as to think that the US would collapse without you. I personally don't want to do business with people that claim "I" am evil.

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Neither of our countries would be well off without the other.




hence the "cutting off their nose to spite their face".

Do I want to be without Canada's business? Hell No. But telling a whole country you find them evil isn't exactly a good way to get us to buy your bacon....or those nifty Dudly Do-right outfits.


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Re: Canadian Youth find US Empire to be Evil [Re: trendal]
    #2881792 - 07/12/04 12:50 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Oil's not all, Canada's number one for natural gas imports.


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Re: Canadian Youth find US Empire to be Evil [Re: Innvertigo]
    #2881795 - 07/12/04 12:51 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

As far as I know, nobody here ever said that 40% of Americans are evil. If you want to read into it that way...well go ahead but it's just not the truth.

There is a big difference in the minds of Canadians between "America" and "Americans". America can be thought of as your government as a whole...the way it approaches the rest of the world. Obviously we are not calling each and every one of you evil, you silly silly man :smirk:


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Re: Canadian Youth find US Empire to be Evil [Re: trendal]
    #2881825 - 07/12/04 01:06 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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As far as I know, nobody here ever said that 40% of Americans are evil.




The topic of the thread is this:
Fox TV News: Recent poll finds 40% of Canada's teenagers believe the USA to be an evil influence in the world.

Like I said earlier, if they're talking about 40% of those that think the Government is evil then I have no problem with that.

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If you want to read into it that way...well go ahead but it's just not the truth.




what? yet again: Fox TV News: Recent poll finds 40% of Canada's teenagers believe the USA to be an evil influence in the world.

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There is a big difference in the minds of Canadians between "America" and "Americans". America can be thought of as your government as a whole...




so, you can speak for all 40%? hmmm

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Obviously we are not calling each and every one of you evil, you silly silly man




not according to that poll. words are words, they mean what they mean.


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