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Meister Eckhart: on God, detachment and mysticism. * 3
    #28776789 - 05/16/24 07:02 PM (1 month, 10 days ago)

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There's much to say about the universal experience of samadhi were all capable of reaching that the yogis and Buddhist teach and how it corresponds with Meister Eckhart's philosophy and direction of mind towards God, but I just discovered his teachings recently, why did it take so long? Thank God, a fellow Christian who might understand why I support and for years now, though I've been Christian believer as one raised in the church from birth, been so interested in eastern philosophy and (though I don't do it enough) meditation.

It's almost like I have not only hope for the world of people of different traditions but evidence again and again from discovering Christian teachings from through out it's history of a universal underlying unity behind the cosmos, from within the individual, to be realized even by someone like me despite my past sins and ignorance. Surely it is grace and mercy from a generous and receptive God/Nature/Life or whatever you want to call it. Jesus is my personally revealed king, teacher and Savior, and I have not realized the samadhi state yet, but have seen nimmitas(signs proceeding the Jhana's) in meditation as well as in my dreams when I was younger, which to me are bona fide "visions". may I live long enough and not delay my meditation practices too much so I can know the beatific vision and maybe better not only myself but those I encounter in life. I wish the same for all of you.

What do you all think either of Meister Eckhart or Christian Samadhi in general?


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Re: Meister Eckhart: on God, detachment and mysticism. [Re: saintdextro] * 1
    #28777136 - 05/17/24 03:47 AM (1 month, 9 days ago)

I enjoy reading his works from time to time, not as much as the more Gnostic writings though, like for example the 'Nag Hammadi', or something more modern from 'John Butler' and the works of 'Anthony de Mello'. There are lots of overlooked Christian mystics, so check out 'Carl McColman - The Little Book of Christian Mysticism: Essential Wisdom of Saints, Seers, and Sages' for a start. Further I would suggest other mystics from other Abrahamic beliefs like the Islamic Sufis, their mystical poetry is unmatched imo.

In the end all mystics point to the same moon in their own words which is awesome in its own way, to see how many came before, and knowing how many will still follow.

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Meister Eckhart - Selected Writings;

A free mind is one which is untroubled and unfettered by anything, which has not bound its best part to any particular manner of being or devotion and which does not seek its own interest in anything but is always immersed in God’s most precious will, having gone out of what is its own. There is no work which men and women can perform, however small, which does not draw from this its power and its strength.




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Meister Eckhart - Selected Writings;

Truly, it is you who are the cause of this yourself, and nothing else. It is your own self-will, even if you don’t know it or this doesn’t seem to you to be the case. The lack of peace that you feel can only come from your own self-will, whether you are aware of this or not. Whatever we think – that we should avoid certain things and seek out others, whether these be places or people, particular forms of devotion, this group of people or this kind of activity – these are not to blame for the fact that you are held back by devotional practices and by things; rather it is you as you exist in these things who hold yourself back, for you do not stand in the proper relation to them. Start with yourself therefore and take leave of yourself. Truly, if you do not depart from yourself, then wherever you take refuge, you will find obstacles and unrest, wherever it may be. Those who seek peace in external things, whether in places or devotional practices, people or works, in withdrawal from the world or poverty or self-abasement: however great these things may be or whatever their character, they are still nothing at all and cannot be the source of peace.



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Re: Meister Eckhart: on God, detachment and mysticism. [Re: spinvis]
    #28778387 - 05/18/24 07:27 AM (1 month, 8 days ago)

The words of Eckhart reminded me of Tilopa's on Mahamudra.

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Re: Meister Eckhart: on God, detachment and mysticism. [Re: syncro]
    #28778461 - 05/18/24 08:42 AM (1 month, 8 days ago)

Considering the words are different, better said is that it put me in the vibe.

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Re: Meister Eckhart: on God, detachment and mysticism. [Re: syncro]
    #28783425 - 05/22/24 03:44 AM (1 month, 4 days ago)

Haven't read too much into Meister - seems to be on a similar path of thought as Pseudo-Dionysius the Areopagite :awesomenod:


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54. The true nature of things is to be known personally , through the eyes of clear illumination and not through a sage : what the moon exactly is , is to be known with one's own eyes ; can another make him know it?

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Re: Meister Eckhart: on God, detachment and mysticism. [Re: connectedcosmos] * 1
    #28783632 - 05/22/24 09:10 AM (1 month, 4 days ago)

I remember his quote on silence. :smile:

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How did that come about? I think you made a typo of an empty quote or I misinterpreted, but it's a good one. Something I'm not samadhi-ing as I should these days, but I'm watching the line of sight of the planetary occultation. Part of my excuses. Jupiter is supposed to coming and I will be a more vigilant yogi.

The silence is always there, but obscured with so much fuzz. I ask, where is not Sho, the absolute? It appears in my vision, and is all around, the undifferentiated.

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Re: Meister Eckhart: on God, detachment and mysticism. [Re: syncro]
    #28783652 - 05/22/24 09:29 AM (1 month, 4 days ago)

Within the last few years I had a vision or something where I embraced Christ on the cross, and lifted him and the cross out and away into space, and removed the nails and cast them and the cross away.

From a disembodied perspective, this was not possible in the story in Gone West, for a spirit who tried to remove the nails and could not. He was a high fae creature from the astral, and fascinated with man, and in the agony of not being able to remove the nails, Christ said he would then be able to take birth in the human realm to know the love and pain of man.

Though in my vision not physically realistic, I was able to lift him into space and remove them. He then was deeply still, and parts of his body became the undifferentiated blackness, and there was bliss and profound stillness. Though I was anxious and wanting to help if he was still suffering or damaged, what do I do?...

Yet he stayed unmoving in the deep silence with parts of his body voided. I feel I should have shared more in it, but was still anxious. Finally, I said - I give it all to you - and he woke up restored, took what I offered and went on his way.

I took the events as Christ reflecting my experience in the no-thought, space of stillness, and to the quote, "Bring me signs of the invisible One...", and that if we have the memories of such samadhis, we can no doubt reproduce them, or they still exist in nonlinear non-time, and that they are signs.

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Re: Meister Eckhart: on God, detachment and mysticism. [Re: syncro]
    #28784511 - 05/23/24 12:22 AM (1 month, 4 days ago)

As a cross conoseur I think likely that you are correct.  I will have still aggregates for the rest of eternity.

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Re: Meister Eckhart: on God, detachment and mysticism. [Re: BrendanFlock]
    #28784551 - 05/23/24 02:43 AM (1 month, 3 days ago)

They are simply adornments of the clear light, sometimes in that fine perspective. This is the quote that stuck with me from Sophia of Jesus.

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Whoever, then, knows the Father in pure knowledge will depart to the Father and repose in Unbegotten Father. But whoever knows him defectively will depart to the defect and the rest of the Eighth. Now whoever knows Immortal Spirit of Light in silence, through reflecting and consent in the truth, let him bring me signs of the Invisible One, and he will become a light in the Spirit of Silence. Whoever knows Son of Man in knowledge and love, let him bring me a sign of Son of Man, that he might depart to the dwelling-places with those in the Eighth.




The Eighth is of a multitude of Aeons part at least known as Assembly and Life.

So the signs are

-pure knowledge
-signs of the Invisible One
-a sign of Son of Man



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