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Pstone420
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Misting monotubs
#28768968 - 05/10/24 08:53 AM (1 month, 16 days ago) |
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I have been looking at pictures and reading about misting monotubs. I have 5 32 oz jars colonizing well.
I plan to do two boxes without a casing
I read dont mist the walls or lid on the tub just mist the sub.
Also I read that a tub doesn't need to be misted or fanned.
In the pictures I looked at it showed little droplets of water on the surface and they said only mist once droplets have dried up.
My question is what if droplets do not form should I mist a little once a day to keep sub hydrated until pins form or will I likely be able to see the droplets if my sub is prepared properly and only mist once they evaporate?
I know I got off to a rocky start asking questions but this is a bit confusing my original research said mist and fan sub, walls, and lid twice a day or as needed to keep condensation on the boxes surfaces.
after reading hhg that seems all wrong especially after reading proper surface conditions.
I appreciate any help understanding this better. Also I have Syrian rue and plan to do mushroom ayahuasca with the last of the hillbilly.
Another thing is the potency of the mushrooms i grew with manure and coco wasn't that strong. So I probably will use cvg only this next time and save my manure for other outdoor stuff. Honestly I think I over heated the manure during pasteurization had contamination problems and only had one flush.
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tripdawg420
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well u really dont mist it w a spray bottle what u wana do is bounce the lid off the top of the tub well that is so the moister that just evaporated off the sub will rain back down on the sub rehydrating the surface
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Re: Misting monotubs [Re: Pstone420] 2
#28769003 - 05/10/24 09:24 AM (1 month, 16 days ago) |
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Pstone420 said: ...My question is what if droplets do not form should I mist a little once a day to keep sub hydrated until pins form or will I likely be able to see the droplets if my sub is prepared properly and only mist once they evaporate?...
Yes, when your sub is properly hydrated & your cake is sufficiently thick, droplets should form as expected.
If droplets do not form, your sub may be insufficiently hydrated, or you may be allowing too much airflow, or maybe the cake is way too thin.
So, a remedy is not necessarily as simple as misting the sub to supplement moisture. Diagnose and treat the issue. We're here to help.
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JW123
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 If they don't form, mist the substrate. I use a fine spray mister. They are cheap on amazon and create those perfect little droplets that you are looking for.
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You mentioned cakes being way too thin. I am pretty sure that is what I am dealing with. Is there a way to save the cakes that are too thin or should I throw them out? This is my first rodeo and I have 5 cakes in the colonization stage. 3 of which I foolishly made about 1.5 inches thick and 2 of them are about double that. Thanks in advance.
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Re: Misting monotubs [Re: Oaktek]
#28769762 - 05/10/24 07:25 PM (1 month, 16 days ago) |
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Itβs not a death sentence. No need to throw anything away. A thin cake just feels a lot more likely to dry out.
Iβd add a top layer of substrate to the thin cakes. Maybe 1/2β. And keep an eye on surface conditions. If you notice signs of it being too dry, mist it a bit.
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Re: Misting monotubs [Re: JW123]
#28775239 - 05/15/24 01:57 PM (1 month, 11 days ago) |
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I appreciate everyone replying. I have a hair product mister bottle do you think that is okay?
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Pstone420 said: I appreciate everyone replying. I have a hair product mister bottle do you think that is okay?
I would recommend a super fine misting sprayer, they are real cheap on Amazon and work great. Use what you have if you've got to though.
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Re: Misting monotubs [Re: Herme5] 1
#28775306 - 05/15/24 03:08 PM (1 month, 11 days ago) |
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Re: Misting monotubs [Re: Herme5]
#28776077 - 05/16/24 08:25 AM (1 month, 10 days ago) |
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wosbit
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Wait, rain from the lid is fatter drops and will lead to aborts,mist the sub directly with a fine mist.
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tripdawg420 said: well u really dont mist it w a spray bottle what u wana do is bounce the lid off the top of the tub well that is so the moister that just evaporated off the sub will rain back down on the sub rehydrating the surface 
ill disagree heavy with that. great way to mat down your myc.
read comebackkids surface conditions tek op.
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tripdawg420
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Quote:
BeefSupremeJr said:
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tripdawg420 said: well u really dont mist it w a spray bottle what u wana do is bounce the lid off the top of the tub well that is so the moister that just evaporated off the sub will rain back down on the sub rehydrating the surface 
ill disagree heavy with that. great way to mat down your myc.
read comebackkids surface conditions tek op.
wtf mat down ur myc
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tripdawg420
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here let me help u a lil bit on fruiting monos there is so much air flow it evaporates off pretty quick  right when i bring it to fruiting
 next pic what it looks like water pools

 put it back
 when i go to fan it again 
 heres the flush
 2nd flush
 idk what ur saying  i know how to fruit tubs  theres so much fae it evaporates pretty fast
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I respectfully disagree with what you are doing, Entirely. i Bow out.
Edited by BeefSupremeJr (05/16/24 02:34 PM)
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tripdawg420
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idk
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I've seen you post the same thing a couple times. Just because it works once doesn't mean it's the right way. I microwave my casings and never got a contam, but I still recognize it's the wrong way.
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Re: Misting monotubs [Re: wosbit]
#28776508 - 05/16/24 02:51 PM (1 month, 10 days ago) |
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Nah, you all are wrong.
It's true that dropping too much condensation from the lid will mat your myc.
Also, you should never ever mist your substrate in any way. Or even have spray bottles in the same room as your tubs.
What you really need to do is get a bluetooth speaker and set it on the lid of your tubs. And then play speed metal at full volume. 5 minutes for each tub. Shoeboxes don't require as much time to vibrate the condensation off in fine droplets, so it's acceptable to go with 2 minute punk songs for those. But not that pop-punk shit. Or slower beatdown hardcore. Bad Brains self-titled is a good choice, but you gotta remember to rotate through your shoeboxes. And skip over "Jah Calling" and "Leaving This Babylon" (too slow for effective atomizing).
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Edited by B Traven (05/16/24 04:36 PM)
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Re: Misting monotubs [Re: Pstone420] 2
#28776750 - 05/16/24 06:25 PM (1 month, 10 days ago) |
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i see you B. I see you. Im not gonna lol but i did smile, ill have you know. Thanks man.
OP: all joking around aside, here is the only thread you should ever need to get a grip on the concept of "surface conditions" which has beeen the standard convention of how we get canopies of mushrooms for over 7 years now since CBK wrote it: (god bless him)
if you need to mist, you fucked something up. i keep a mister around but i try my damnedest never to use it. sometimes i spray myself in the face when its hot.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23999053#23999053
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