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KevinDontWave
Kiwi Cat



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KevinDontWave
Kiwi Cat



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Mr. Toxic Waste
Sour confectionary



Registered: 07/12/23
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Haha hello, I’ve not been saying much on this thread because I’ve not really got awfully much to say. I’ve been reading it all though and I’ve had a good time doing so
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TheStallionMang
Do U know who yur fuckin with?


Registered: 10/18/17
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I recommend a good set of bluetooth over ear headphones, play the first song of this at a fairly loud volume, then start hitting it, only open your eyes to get the lighter to the bowl and let it ride. Literally the only thing to fear is fear itself
You can't know until you know, ya know?
si=HiZrG4cYYtpilXc8 There's really no lyrics but a few oohs and aahs, lots of etherial guitar licks and spacy jams
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The Blind Ass
Bodhi



Registered: 08/16/16
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That's the first Khruangbin performance I listened to a few years back. Even now after all these years, it's still a favorite. 
For some, like myself, I find it contributes greatly to a chill, pleasantly dreamy, and heated atmosphere. Helps set a nice wide-open mood for intimate relations of the bodily melding variety to ensue. That is, if while with a mutually consenting significant-partner/lover.  
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Mr. Toxic Waste
Sour confectionary



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Thanks for the recommendation! I appreciate it. Definitely will consider using this
-------------------- “Everything has a life, it has its own life and is simply beautiful. Life now feels like a journey taking us into something so much bigger than ourselves. I’m in love with the world and its contents, I finally understand all of the people who love this and live for this. It’s so much more than just hallucinations for me, it’s an emotional and psychological journey. This is truly the most beautiful experience I’ve ever had.” 28th of September, 2023 "Pools of sorrow, waves of joy are drifting through my opened mind, possessing and caressing me, Limitless undying love which shines around me like a million suns it calls me on and on, across the universe…” -John Lennon
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TheStallionMang
Do U know who yur fuckin with?


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Quote:
The Blind Ass said: That's the first Khruangbin performance I listened to a few years back. Even now after all these years, it's still a favorite. 
Same bro, it's my first and still favorite despite listening to a lot of their other performances
IME there is nothing scary or anxious about it. It doesn't even feel like being fucked up. More like being enhanced Despite all that, neither myself or my buddy who made it can find anyone else willing to try it Even one of my best bros who's a very experienced psychonaut and likes to get pretty fucked up has been sitting on some for 18 months and still says he's scared
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stareatclouds
star eat clouds?



Registered: 09/29/14
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Anybody else had an entity completely take over their entire perception and body? Like basically a demonstration that they have the ability to do that? It's what I keep getting the memory back of each time I hit a little of my pen. It's quite terrifying, remembering it, because this entity felt evil and amused that I was terrified while it was fucking with me. I'm trying to dilute the memory with exposure therapy, but unsure if anyone else has had a similar experience.
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connectedcosmos
Neti Neti



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The last time I used DMT it was as if I was watching language being created and scribed before my eyes it was very very neat
That was on the tail end of a shroom trip too
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To me tripping is just like going to the movies, and movies can’t hurt us.
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Shroomerquest



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I get that on shrooms alone
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stareatclouds
star eat clouds?



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Shroomerquest said: To me tripping is just like going to the movies, and movies can’t hurt us.
So no, you haven't had that experience, haha.
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redgreenvines
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Similar to inhaled Salvia-D, the effects of inhaled NNDMT often engage rapidly (like a physical rush), entirely transforming the sensorium, or transforming the totality of mental contents, with a dramatic consistency (you could say a geometric consistency).
I find that, in the subsequent moments of profound intensification and layering, at the periphery of the rush, are traces - whispers, shadows, echoes of (seeming) entities (or echoes of self).
With slightly less inhaled, it is still somewhat of a rush, and a release (more pleasurable than not), and though the sensorium is not completely transformed, every edge has a twist - often visibly.
It saps my energy, so I do not want to do it every time that I happen to see the vape (mine is in a cartridge with a battery - moving from desk to locked drawer and back), but at the same time I do want to do it a lot (seeing the vape or thinking about it makes me smile), and I find I could do it as frequently and as casually as I might use weed, although with less lung load (& less throat irritation than a cannabis cart/vape) - it just does not make sense to do it that much, and since I got it I have not touched the weed vape.
Instead, once or twice per ordinary day, it is very interesting to inhale but also very private, something that does not go along with human interaction, but also it affords a low time investment for a private transformative experience with an energy sapping afterglow.
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stareatclouds
star eat clouds?



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Interesting that it saps your energy. I've heard others say it makes them tired. It does kind of put me in a relaxed state on low doses, although managing the dose is not a guarantee on vape carts. If your cart unscrews, I recommend freezing it inside foil + Mason jar when not in use.
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redgreenvines
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I find the commercial vape cart dosage extremely consistent. for 2 second draws (inhales) followed by fresh air and holding 15 seconds - great buzz for 3 second draws - body rush followed by colorful buzz for 4 second draws - rush and head rush followed by colorful buzz for 5 second draws - rush, disconnect from world, swirl and time/space entity echoes followed by colorful buzz.
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stareatclouds
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The coils, juice temperature, amount of DMT reaching the atomizer, voltage, and your human timing are likely not a constant, though. I've heard multiple people mention the crystals sink to the bottom within the mixture, too. There's also a huge difference depending on the voltage used and whether you pulse it or hold it down. Tons of variables, tbh.
I'm just saying, I did 3-5 seconds on mine, same I'd done reliably 60+ times before, and went to some other place with an entity having taken over my entire perception. This included me being physically thrown back and held down in my bed while I was asking to be let out. Whether you believe in that kind of thing or not, which I didn't, it definitely happened.
I'm interested in whether you go beyond the 5+ and try for breakthrough. It seems easily possible with a cart that strong.
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dubbtronix12345
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Yeah man. It will be worth it. Personally if I have mushrooms I’d rather do that just because I’m a little wary of smoking anything. but I think dmt is essential for everyone to experience. So many times after I have dmt I research for days of other people’s experiences becaue it’s so bizarre but yet familiar. It’s the the state of ultimate awakeness. It’s like you think you are awake now but dmt allows you to see everything at a way higher level. It is definitely worth it. Once you get that nice floral smelling dmt you are gonna love it before you even try it. The main downside is learning how to vape it correctly. I’ve had times where I heat it too much and it didn’t work as well. I use an oil burner and tea candle and slowly twirl the pipe while the vapor forms. Seems like the best way. I’ve never tried all this new e mesh stuff. I’ve always done the oil burner and I break through as long as I don’t burn it
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TheStallionMang
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Does anybody else feel like everytime it changes them a bit? I only touched it 2x about a year apart and both times I got this weird mix of getting really serious about taking care of business and my family but also really serious about having more fun and making good times and memories for everyone around. Also I lost even more of the ability to handle disingenuous fake people in my life and have had to distance myself from a few people because I couldn't stand it anymore. There's an odd quiet determination, drive increase, and ability to push myself past what I thought were my limits that seemed to coincide around those experiences and I love it. There could be other things at play but I do believe DMT had a part in it
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Bloomer



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It's for sure a catalyst. Not sure if it would encourage everyone's behavior that way tho.
I had one experience that wasn't really pleasant at all, I think I might have had a seizure. On the comedown I remember feeling sleep paralysis, even tho I've never experienced it before, I was aware of myself but unable to move anything. Once I was 100% down I didn't feel quite right. To this day I think I have a speech impairment that might have been triggered from that trip / seizure (if it was one). Didn't have a sitter that time so idk what really happened exactly.
Shortly after that trip though I felt like a different person. I literally wondered if my spirit died on that trip, because I felt like my personality detached. Like my whole life up to that point was put in a folder somewhere and I was rebooted with a blank slate consciousness. I even remember thinking hmm, maybe I'm an alien entity that just took over/switched places with this body. And the deal was I have to forget everything I came from and live this life now. The memories of my human life up to then felt like a brochure - I could pull them up and examine them, but I didn't feel that intimately personal connection to them anymore. They're just a collection of things that happened to this body that I could choose to adopt or let go of.
I could have probably had that liberating realization without psychedelics, but who knows. I like who I am now, even though it's been a struggle to live in ways that sometimes don't conform to the culture. Sometimes I wish I could have just remained a goodie-two-shoe and followed instructions / not ask questions and been in a more comfortable position in life.
Most of the time it leaves me elated though, like everything is mystical, magical, perfect and to be celebrated as much as I can. I wish more people could see how wildly awesome our shared experience we call life is. Seems like some people are just on their personality autopilot and life passes them by.
Can we talk more about the spiritual aspects? Probably the best thing I've gotten out of DMT is this core feeling that nothing really matters yet everything is intentional. I was atheist and realized after DMT that I'm agnostic, like this perfection is more than just random. I'm usually depressed but I don't think I'll ever forget those feelings and that belief will always give me the strength to carry on. I assume it's similar to how christian's talk about having a relationship with jesus. Except I think that whole story is just a story to reflect ineffable feelings and beliefs that underlie most religions.
When people (especially family) are so religious, dependent on religion, it really disappoints me. I feel like they don't have any direct experience guiding them like I do. It shouldn't take weekly mass or a book or anything to feel a connection to god. So when people do all that I have to wonder if they're completely lost. Those super religious people basically don't have a personality the way I see it, they're just living and acting out of fear for damnation. I see how it affects political views and culture and I just think religion must be one of the worst influences in society. Don't get me wrong, a lot of "good" people are religious, but it's like something's missing at their core. Even to just have a conversation like this with a religious person is blasphemous, suddenly you're the devil to them. It's a conflict that I'll never understand.
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Re: Is DMT worth it? [Re: Icon]
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Oh and on the energy sapping - might that just be an effect of tryptamines? I get a deep cozy comfort on shrooms and DMT that's akin to being snuggled up in the womb or something. I also yawn a lot. I've heard yawning can be oxygen related, like maybe I'm just breathing too slow.
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