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Calm_A_Llama_Down
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Re: I think conservatives are the new counter culture/snowflakes/ "woke" [Re: Kryptos] 1
#28782757 - 05/21/24 04:35 PM (1 month, 6 days ago) |
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Conservatives are people who see other people as their property. Look at all their causes. They want to control a woman's vagina, they want to control your drug intake, what books you can read, what clothes you can wear, how you interpret gender and sex, who you love, what you are allowed to express artistically. They want people to be uneducated, and work themselves to death, in a miserable society that offers only judgment in return.
There is no depth, no nuance, no consistency.
At it's core I think the conservative mindset is generated by a lack of ability to engage in lateral thinking, and a massive sense of entitlement and white privilege.
A major symptom of white privilege is this idea that you are the paternalistic guide post for all humanity, and you will force others to walk the path you choose, like a farmer forces cattle into a certain corral. You know, for their own good. Because you were raised to be John Wayne, and everyone else is cast as your victim, in this phantasmatic wet dream of simultaneous domination and fragility. For everyone's good though. Only you know what's good for people, and anyone who has other ideas is just "mentally ill", or a "Marxist", or whatever you want to call them, to dehumanize them and turn them into justifiable victims of your terroristic mindset.
Conservatives thrive on normativety and supremecy, and they are always just an inch away from walking into a Walmart with one of their beloved penis substitutes, so they can demonstrate their dominance over everyone and everything, through the cis-masculine sacrament of violence.
They think that a willingness to hurt and kill other people makes them strong, and gives them a sort of manifest authority, in reality though, their entire understanding of reality is predicated on insecurity.
They want to project an image of militaristic strength, force, control, but they come off as unreasonable, idiotic, man-children, who are out looking for any excuse to shoot strangers, or scream racial slurs at people.
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Re: I think conservatives are the new counter culture/snowflakes/ "woke" [Re: Calm_A_Llama_Down] 1
#28782778 - 05/21/24 04:51 PM (1 month, 6 days ago) |
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I don't disagree with most of that but I would point out that violence isn't necessarily a masculine thing or a conservative thing. Humans resort to violence because it is effective. Communists do it. Fascists do it. Men do it. Women do it. Also, conservative men aren't the only people with guns. Hell, my old business partner is a trans-woman and she's got a collection of cool guns. I doubt she'll ever shoot up a Walmart but that has as much to do with not being a dumb-dumb as anything else, I suspect.
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Re: I think conservatives are the new counter culture/snowflakes/ "woke" [Re: Calm_A_Llama_Down]
#28782789 - 05/21/24 04:59 PM (1 month, 6 days ago) |
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Plus you forgot to mention they want to control what beer you drink and whether is is fun to play with mr potato head or not. Yet, they are still stupid enough to believe people will believe them when they claim to be the only ones who believe in freedom.
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Re: I think conservatives are the new counter culture/snowflakes/ "woke" [Re: ballsalsa]
#28782814 - 05/21/24 05:15 PM (1 month, 6 days ago) |
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Oh yes violence is not the issue though, it's the context that violence takes, within the masculine lense. It becomes a point of pride. A sacrament. A right of passage. A justification in its own right.
Because violence is such a fetish in masculine identity, it necessitates the removal and degradation of empathy, through the grooming of children. A process called manhood.
Manhood actualized on a sociopolitical plain becomes militarism.
Militarism filtered through different cultural lenses becomes communism, fascism, etc etc.
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Re: I think conservatives are the new counter culture/snowflakes/ "woke" [Re: ballsalsa]
#28782864 - 05/21/24 05:50 PM (1 month, 6 days ago) |
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So which cultural lens are you filtering your militarism through?
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ballsalsa said: I don't disagree with most of that but I would point out that violence isn't necessarily a masculine thing or a conservative thing. Humans resort to violence because it is effective. Communists do it. Fascists do it. Men do it. Women do it. Also, conservative men aren't the only people with guns. Hell, my old business partner is a trans-woman and she's got a collection of cool guns. I doubt she'll ever shoot up a Walmart but that has as much to do with not being a dumb-dumb as anything else, I suspect.
The question is one of purpose: whom does the violence serve, and why?
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Re: I think conservatives are the new counter culture/snowflakes/ "woke" [Re: Kryptos]
#28783263 - 05/21/24 11:04 PM (1 month, 5 days ago) |
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"So which cultural lens are you filtering your militarism through?"
I don't ascribe to easy political ideologies, and although I am a part of a culture, it considers me to be it's enemy, it degrades me, and rejects the notion that my ideas have value.
In return, I consider culture to be my enemy, I degrade it, and reject the notion that its ideas have value. I believe culture to be the tyranny of the neighbors. Not the tyranny of the state, or the spirit, or the dollar. It's the dictatorship of the masses.
You will wear what your neighbors wear, do what your neighbors do, believe what they believe, fuck like they fuck. You will do all these things, it doesn't matter if you like it. It doesn't even matter if your stupid neighbors like it.
Culture is a prison where the prisoners are also the guards.
I dispise militarism. It is a perversion of violence. A mass corruption of the mind. The uniforms, the mechanization, the structure and hierarchy, the monetization. It is fucking grotesque.
I believe that violence really is supposed to be personal, in a natural sense. It's best to have personal motives, if you're going to engage in violence, because the consequences that follow are deeply personal.
Militarism is people killing strangers as a profession, and teenagers being groomed into violent zealots, by rich people and withering old chicken hawks.
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Re: I think conservatives are the new counter culture/snowflakes/ "woke" [Re: Calm_A_Llama_Down]
#28783808 - 05/22/24 11:15 AM (1 month, 5 days ago) |
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I'll take that as "aggrieved"
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Re: I think conservatives are the new counter culture/snowflakes/ "woke" [Re: Kryptos] 2
#28786818 - 05/24/24 09:40 PM (1 month, 2 days ago) |
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They aren’t the counterculture. Because they want us to adopt the culture. But they are definitely the snowflakes. Every single thing seems to just get them super triggered and yelling. When someone says that they got a vaccine at some point and then they say that months and months later they had anything happen. Insert any reality and they will blame it on the vaccine. All you have to do is say “no it didn’t. “ That is enough to cause a full melting session. They’ll start yelling and projecting whatever they want you to be so that they can just yell at the person they want to yell at. The idea of the liberal.
It’s gross how quickly they’ve all unified under a single person who now dictates everything they think.
 He tells you that it’s OK to be afraid. Because he’s afraid too and he’s going to do whatever it takes to make you not have to be scared anymore.
Meanwhile, he’s fucking over the entire nation, lining his pockets with cash and none of his voters seem to care because “we triggered dem libs” 
They just don’t care about democracy anymore. They’d rather just have king Trump.
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Re: I think conservatives are the new counter culture/snowflakes/ "woke" [Re: Calm_A_Llama_Down]
#28787097 - 05/25/24 06:30 AM (1 month, 2 days ago) |
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Calm_A_Llama_Down said: Conservatives are people who see other people as their property. Look at all their causes. They want to control a woman's vagina, they want to control your drug intake, what books you can read, what clothes you can wear, how you interpret gender and sex, who you love, what you are allowed to express artistically. They want people to be uneducated, and work themselves to death, in a miserable society that offers only judgment in return.
There is no depth, no nuance, no consistency.
At it's core I think the conservative mindset is generated by a lack of ability to engage in lateral thinking, and a massive sense of entitlement and white privilege.
A major symptom of white privilege is this idea that you are the paternalistic guide post for all humanity, and you will force others to walk the path you choose, like a farmer forces cattle into a certain corral. You know, for their own good. Because you were raised to be John Wayne, and everyone else is cast as your victim, in this phantasmatic wet dream of simultaneous domination and fragility. For everyone's good though. Only you know what's good for people, and anyone who has other ideas is just "mentally ill", or a "Marxist", or whatever you want to call them, to dehumanize them and turn them into justifiable victims of your terroristic mindset.
Conservatives thrive on normativety and supremecy, and they are always just an inch away from walking into a Walmart with one of their beloved penis substitutes, so they can demonstrate their dominance over everyone and everything, through the cis-masculine sacrament of violence.
They think that a willingness to hurt and kill other people makes them strong, and gives them a sort of manifest authority, in reality though, their entire understanding of reality is predicated on insecurity.
They want to project an image of militaristic strength, force, control, but they come off as unreasonable, idiotic, man-children, who are out looking for any excuse to shoot strangers, or scream racial slurs at people.
Conservatism is ‘white privilege’ ? A rather racist notion in itself implying as it does that white people themselves have some kind of monopoly over the concept of values!
Conservatism, is relative to whatever society (black or white) or time period one happens to find him/herself in, and hinges on what exactly one wishes to conserve, be it gun rights or religious values, etc.
The Islamic extremists the radical left is now happily jumping into bed with (supremely dumb move btw) are just about as far right and conservative as it gets and yet the ‘gays for Palestine’ far-left seems to have no inkling of exactly how gays are treated in Palestine! Strange how they suddenly don’t mind those conservatives!
The anti-racist racists only hate white conservatives I’m guessing, but it underlines how the radical left agenda -separate from the useful idiots tasked with pushing this utter (right cis?) nonsense- has never had anything to do really with gay or trans rights, or for that matter the Palestinians!
For these are all just cynical wedge issues and a means to an eventual (marxist/communist) end. Like Mao’s Red Guards, I don’t think the woke really realize just how dispensable and meaningless they are to those that are manipulating them! The chemical castration of gay children should have been a clue you’d have thought…
I wish -for my family’s sake- to conserve the stable society I grew up in and categorically reject the insane death-cult ideology that the radical left is attempting to impose on western society and that has (very evidently) brought nothing but Marxist chaos and division to western societies, just as it did in China during the 1960’s.
I may not agree with many of the old school traditional conservatives on matters of religion, and drug policy but I can recognize they are infinitely less dangerous and toxic than the (Turkey voting for Christmas) far left ideology that you are espousing, which is the Orwellian mirror-opposite of everything it purports to be on the surface.
There is absolutely nothing progressive, libertarian, anti-establishment or freedom loving about NeoMarxist ideology or its proponents. It will bring (and has brought) nothing to the world but destruction, and anyone standing opposed to that wrecking ball, is now a conservative!
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Edited by wolf8312 (05/25/24 06:37 AM)
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Re: I think conservatives are the new counter culture/snowflakes/ "woke" [Re: wolf8312] 1
#28787135 - 05/25/24 07:48 AM (1 month, 2 days ago) |
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Believe it or not, It is possible to be opposed to the ideology of a group (like Hamas) and also opposed to the total destruction of everyone associated with that group (Palestinians). It's called being a decent human being. I know conservatives in the U.S. struggle with that concept.
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Re: I think conservatives are the new counter culture/snowflakes/ "woke" [Re: ballsalsa]
#28789513 - 05/27/24 02:29 AM (1 month, 16 hours ago) |
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This is actually pretty interesting, the daily wire just made an anti woke family guy clone called Mr. Birchumm. Everyone who watches it hates it even the conservatives. They billed it as too edgy for woke networks but the jokes aren't funny or edgy.
Every reference is years or decades old. They have 1 "woke" character that they use as a vilian and catch all for every woke ideology they want to make fun of. He actually says "I'm a straight white, hetronormative, cis gendered male and I apologize" :eyeroll: but he "looks gay". He has a rainbow unity symbol on his shirt, speaks effeminate etc. But here's where the story gets interesting.
A large portion of their daily wire plus audience won't watch it and they're very upset that they have a "gay character". One lady has a YouTube video saying she won't be watching because there's a gay character and that there's a way character in everything and she thought the conservatives would have a show without that.
The "gay" character is only there to be made fun of but they're so incredibly homophobic that they can't even watch someone making fun of gay people. The gay character is too much for their incredibly sensitive sensibilities. Not to mention the character they think is gay literally says he's straight and apologized for it that's the "joke"
So you have liberals trashing it and gloating because it's obviously not funny to anyone and its not even offensive really its so cliche. You have Conservatives that were hoping for a conservative south park and got a turd and you have their main base of daily wire plus subscribers. People so conservative they pay 20$ a month to watch daily wire all the time that are so ingrained that they don't want gay characters in TV or movies that they can't even watch something making fun of gay people so they're boycotting it 
They succeeded in pleasing absolutely no one.
But I think this is a great example of the topic. The more conservative you get the more sensitive they seem to be. They've literally become the snowflakes they laugh at.
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Re: I think conservatives are the new counter culture/snowflakes/ "woke" [Re: Seriously_trippin]
#28789759 - 05/27/24 09:03 AM (1 month, 9 hours ago) |
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Seriously_trippin said: They succeeded in pleasing absolutely no one.
"They" should get another job from the sounds of it.
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Re: I think conservatives are the new counter culture/snowflakes/ "woke" [Re: mycot] 1
#28789832 - 05/27/24 09:57 AM (1 month, 8 hours ago) |
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lol @ the echo chamber jerking each other off and stroking the egos and opinions here EXCEPT the ones that provide a different perspective
Nauseating
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Re: I think conservatives are the new counter culture/snowflakes/ "woke" [Re: theRealrollforever]
#28790041 - 05/27/24 12:44 PM (1 month, 5 hours ago) |
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The daily wire tried to do a "different perspective", and it's so stupid even conservatives can't enjoy it.
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Re: I think conservatives are the new counter culture/snowflakes/ "woke" [Re: Kryptos]
#28790319 - 05/27/24 04:46 PM (1 month, 1 hour ago) |
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Yeah it's kind of hilarious to see the reaction. Ngl tho I love animated comedy and I've watched farzar and Velma so I watch terrible animated comedy too but I watched 3 out of 4 eps of Mr birchum last night to wind down
Like I said it's so cliche and I've heard the talking points so it wasn't really infuriating or anything. So I used it to bore me to sleep lol I would tell you about the episodes but that's just it the episodes don't follow a story to it's conclusion mostly.
It's was interesting to see what conservatives thought was funny though. It's actually incredibly tame.
On ep 3 they have an actual gay character and they made him just a navy buddy of theirs. They introduced the character by saying something like we served together, we didn't ask and you didn't tell.
They didn't make a salient point with that but it was almost saying "if it's a gay soldier that fought for America we should treat him with respect" which is interesting where they draw the line. They actually didn't belittle him in anyway.
I think daily wire writers truly thought their audience would be accepting of a gay character as long as they made him a vet and didn't make him say gay things. They were wrong lol.
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Re: I think conservatives are the new counter culture/snowflakes/ "woke" [Re: Seriously_trippin]
#28790353 - 05/27/24 05:08 PM (1 month, 1 hour ago) |
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I thought you could only watch the first episode without paying for it?
I saw clips of the first episode on reddit and youtube, and it seems like a lot of conservative comedy--the punchline is often something like "Gays, amirite?" *nudge nudge*
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Re: I think conservatives are the new counter culture/snowflakes/ "woke" [Re: Kryptos]
#28790378 - 05/27/24 05:31 PM (1 month, 1 hour ago) |
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Kryptos said: I thought you could only watch the first episode without paying for it?
I saw clips of the first episode on reddit and youtube, and it seems like a lot of conservative comedy--the punchline is often something like "Gays, amirite?" *nudge nudge*
I pirated it. Lol literally just searched watch Mr birchum online free. First 3 eps were there so I watched em.
It is it's honestly horrible writing but yeah not offensive per ce. Like you said "gays amirite?" Is more something I don't share a sentiment with its not particularly offensive though because it's so cliche.
I didn't really enjoy it much but I gotta be honest it wasn't the worst thing I've ever seen. Just not funny, offensive or edgy.
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Re: I think conservatives are the new counter culture/snowflakes/ "woke" [Re: Seriously_trippin]
#28790446 - 05/27/24 06:32 PM (1 month, 35 seconds ago) |
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Someone on youtube compared it to Brickleberry, which I recall once being described as a pizza: all edge, no point.
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Re: I think conservatives are the new counter culture/snowflakes/ "woke" [Re: Kryptos]
#28790456 - 05/27/24 06:41 PM (30 days, 23 hours ago) |
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Kryptos said: The daily wire tried to do a "different perspective", and it's so stupid even conservatives can't enjoy it.
I didn't know that was possible.
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Re: I think conservatives are the new counter culture/snowflakes/ "woke" [Re: Seriously_trippin]
#28790460 - 05/27/24 06:43 PM (30 days, 23 hours ago) |
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So "horrible" that it can't be used to judge attitudes towards gays by. Not a great example at all.
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