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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis thread [Re: psichopath] 1
#28766778 - 05/08/24 04:09 PM (1 month, 18 days ago) |
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That's really neat. Looks like it could be Nats, maybe an accidental hybrid?
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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis thread [Re: psichopath]
#28767280 - 05/08/24 09:51 PM (1 month, 18 days ago) |
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psichopath said: Here's the pic of the gills. So what do you think? Nat or not? Tbh I don't know what makes Nat gills different, haven't read up about it

What about closer to the stipe?
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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis thread [Re: TheAtlantean] 1
#28767435 - 05/09/24 04:27 AM (1 month, 18 days ago) |
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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis thread [Re: vicepope]
#28767609 - 05/09/24 08:00 AM (1 month, 18 days ago) |
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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis thread [Re: mill] 3
#28767716 - 05/09/24 09:30 AM (1 month, 17 days ago) |
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mill said: Hello ! My first try with Natalensis. Tried BRF for the little jar, rye for the biggest one. Just cased them, curious to see how it will go 🙏




Hello. Some news on this Natalensis run. Just a MS run from print in order to have some fresh homemade ones. Not the project to clone or work it on agar.
So I cased 1 BRF and 2 rye jars. Spawn ratio is higher with BRF because jar is smaller. Something like 1 brf / 2 CVG Around 1 / 1 for rye. I know it’s not the best but I am not trying to make bulk, just to have some decent fruits to print, nothing more.
Fruiting conditions are same for each tray, ziplock tek. No introducing FA or misting. Once spawned, kept those in a dark place to let mycelium colonize the CGV for few days then added a pseudo casing while going to fruiting. Yes yes I know, proly outdated tek but this is what I am used to. And it works at least easily for cubes 🙏
Around 15 days since in fruiting conditions. Long time to have few fruits haha. But seems some decent ones.
From the first to the third, rye, rye, BRF. Damn, look at that crazy overlay on the first pic. The one from rye jar. Dunno how to deal with it. Will proly scratch it then add an other thin pseudo casing layer…



All three trays together.

Even if it’s a MS run, seems that Natalensis have so different ways to grow … 😅
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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis thread [Re: mill] 1
#28768164 - 05/09/24 05:00 PM (1 month, 17 days ago) |
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This is my first indoor mushroom grow, I had a clean looking germ plate so I thought why not and knocked up 4 x 8oz jars of popcorn to try this shroom growing business out.
Nats in the ziploc tek style, I made 2 of these, its 1 week today since spawning, I think it's all looking normal? They smelling good and shroomie 
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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis thread [Re: Dkeppel]
#28768208 - 05/09/24 05:46 PM (1 month, 17 days ago) |
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Being lazy and using a germ plate as inoculant will eventually bite you. It defeats the point of using agar in the first place.
That tub/myc doesnt look too healthy.
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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis thread [Re: TheAtlantean] 2
#28768238 - 05/09/24 06:10 PM (1 month, 17 days ago) |
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Here's few pics of some other fruits from the same sb. Try to get a shot as good as I can to the stipe. But its hard with this culture because it has thick bell like cap that doesn't flatten out. Eventually I could probably wait even longer for it to flatten out a bit more but it'll be too mature to harvest for my tastes. Stipes are already soft as it is right now



And here is a pic of the cap, see how it has that silverish hue. Im sure this trait could be had with other cube albinos, but I normally never seen that ime with non-nat albinos

And a bit of additional info: When I swabbed the plates, I was specifically looking for mycelium that was tomentose and didn't have those crazy nat rhizo ropes. Because I remember reading from some poster here how the tomentose growth will reduce the chance of crazy fluffy overlay. All of the germ plates was mostly crazy rhizo that stretches up to the lid, but there were a few pockets of mycelium with tomentose growth so I only transfered that instead of the rhizo stuff. And it did work, I got absolutely zero overlay with this culture
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AspectOfTheCreator said: Being lazy and using a germ plate as inoculant will eventually bite you. It defeats the point of using agar in the first place.
That tub/myc doesnt look too healthy.
It's not being lazy my man, I made transfers from the germ plates, observed the growth and posted pictures of the plates to shroomery to confirm cleanliness, and have made several 1 qt jars from those transfers.
I did state "Clean looking germ plate, so I thought why not" I would of thought that was implying this was an experiment
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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis thread [Re: Hillbillyjohn]
#28768672 - 05/10/24 01:10 AM (1 month, 17 days ago) |
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It's always some 22 post in user that tries to disrupt a thread w/ their new knowledge/ genetics. It's 100% of the time false.
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AspectOfTheCreator said: Being lazy and using a germ plate as inoculant will eventually bite you. It defeats the point of using agar in the first place.
That tub/myc doesnt look too healthy.
Care to explain why? Ive grown nats a bunch of times and this looks perfectly fine for me. Also if you listen to podcasts with Dave Wombat he will tell you he uses clean germ plates all the time when phenohunting.
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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis thread [Re: semilancreator] 1
#28768775 - 05/10/24 05:17 AM (1 month, 17 days ago) |
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Ahh you’re fine. You can see it grown out on the plate and you’ll know if it’s ok to send or not. Yeah, hidden contaminates exist but it’s not like a t1 or t2 is going to help you at all if that’s the case lol.
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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis thread [Re: semilancreator]
#28768777 - 05/10/24 05:18 AM (1 month, 17 days ago) |
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IDK those gills looking kind of sub decurrent to me. Might need some genetic testing.
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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis thread [Re: JW123]
#28768829 - 05/10/24 06:34 AM (1 month, 17 days ago) |
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TheAtlantean said:
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psichopath said: Here's the pic of the gills. So what do you think? Nat or not? Tbh I don't know what makes Nat gills different, haven't read up about it

What about closer to the stipe?
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JW123 said: IDK those gills looking kind of sub decurrent to me. Might need some genetic testing.
I think so too. Do you have the myc on agar or colonizing grain? Would be easier to tell if it's nat or not.
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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis thread [Re: JW123] 1
#28768917 - 05/10/24 08:00 AM (1 month, 17 days ago) |
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I've had SquatMacs (cubes) that exhibited similar gill structure that carry APE lineage. Im gonna say these are cubensis. But if you end up proving they are Nat descendent, I would be happy to trade genetics. I have some really potent Nats.
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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis thread [Re: TheAtlantean] 1
#28768933 - 05/10/24 08:18 AM (1 month, 16 days ago) |
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For sure cubes can have sub decurrent gills, but it is one of the only ways to tell with a picture. Good idea blueberry muffin a picture of the mycelium might help.
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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis thread [Re: JW123]
#28769090 - 05/10/24 10:45 AM (1 month, 16 days ago) |
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Hey all
I have this Nat tub that started pinning about 2 days ago. It is in a 15 qt sweater box with handles unlatched since spawn.
You can see the edges and corners with no beads of water but rest looks good to me. I was going to latch it back up before it started pinning because of the edges and corners, but didn't because it started pinning and I've been reading they like more FAE than cubes. So my mind is like, latch lid or more FAE? OR LITFA! What do you guys think?
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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis thread [Re: Stroms] 2
#28769096 - 05/10/24 10:49 AM (1 month, 16 days ago) |
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JW123 said: IDK those gills looking kind of sub decurrent to me. Might need some genetic testing.
Never did genetic testing before. Can you fill me in on how to do it?
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Blueberry Muffin said: I think so too. Do you have the myc on agar or colonizing grain? Would be easier to tell if it's nat or not.
Here's an old plate made march 4th. When the plates gets a bit older they start growing these tiny puffballs as you might be able to see in the pic
 I inoculated some spawn jars 2 days ago so its too early to take a pic of the spawn, but I'll upload that once its got a good amount of colonization. However if you're expecting to see the crazy rhizo growth from nats, its not going to be exactly like that, because as I mentioned in previous post, I selected mycelium that was tomentose. The mycelium does beef up a bit and gets a little more rhizo when its colonizing on grain, and then again when its 100% colonized in sub, but not the really crazy stretching kind that's typical with Nat.
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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis thread [Re: psichopath]
#28769908 - 05/10/24 09:14 PM (1 month, 16 days ago) |
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Natalensis has subdecurrent gills.

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