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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis thread [Re: Adas]
#28759084 - 05/02/24 12:41 PM (1 month, 24 days ago) |
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Blueberry Muffin said: One friend had a very intense trip on 2g dried nats with entities, hallways etc. Reminded him of his ayahuasca experience. Another travelled the catverse with 1.5g. Yet another connected with the universe on 2g. So nats are pretty potent.
I need to wait a week or two before tripping. My tolerance levels are so high that I can take even 10 grams dried depending on how long ago I last tripped and have a comparatively mild trip.
With Nats you are playing genetic lottery. Mine were pretty damn weak. You never know what you get.
Two grams were really intense for me. Had me crying my soul out loud for what felt like an hour.
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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis thread [Re: Adas]
#28759092 - 05/02/24 12:47 PM (1 month, 24 days ago) |
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Blueberry Muffin said: One friend had a very intense trip on 2g dried nats with entities, hallways etc. Reminded him of his ayahuasca experience. Another travelled the catverse with 1.5g. Yet another connected with the universe on 2g. So nats are pretty potent.
I need to wait a week or two before tripping. My tolerance levels are so high that I can take even 10 grams dried depending on how long ago I last tripped and have a comparatively mild trip.
With Nats you are playing genetic lottery. Mine were pretty damn weak. You never know what you get.
Perhaps if you get spores from someone with potent nats, you'll have better luck. There are some overlaying genetics around and I don't know how potent are those. So far I've been eating mushrooms from the same 0.5 liter sslc that was inoculated by cleaned up spore to agar and so far the potency has been very consistent.
Nats are fairly new to the scene as I understand and they have a similar problem as subtrops where with subtrops there are slow and fast genetics, with nats overlaying and non-overlaying genetics.
Take what I said with a grain of salt. This is just what I've noticed being said and shared.
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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis thread [Re: SnakeEyes212]
#28759094 - 05/02/24 12:48 PM (1 month, 24 days ago) |
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Blueberry Muffin said: One friend had a very intense trip on 2g dried nats with entities, hallways etc. Reminded him of his ayahuasca experience. Another travelled the catverse with 1.5g. Yet another connected with the universe on 2g. So nats are pretty potent.
I need to wait a week or two before tripping. My tolerance levels are so high that I can take even 10 grams dried depending on how long ago I last tripped and have a comparatively mild trip.
With Nats you are playing genetic lottery. Mine were pretty damn weak. You never know what you get.
Two grams were really intense for me. Had me crying my soul out loud for what felt like an hour.
Sounds great. I'm happy for you
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Yeah definitely seems like it might be contaminated, not seeing any visible signs of anything that looks like bacteria or mold, but this is bag 1 now well over a month after inoculation.


For comparison this is bag 2 just over 2 weeks after inoculation, and 6 days after it's first shake


Think im sorted with substrate and shoeboxes, hopefully will be ready to go to bulk soon. Will be cool to be able to contribute to the thread instead of just lurking. Will just put bag 1 under my desk and check up on it every now and then, if it ever fully colonises ill bury it in my backyard next to my leaky sprinkler and cover it with hpoo to see what happens.
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Bigworm said: I just got around to testing my Natalensis. I attempted them before but fucked the test up so I had to wait till I could get more. These are what I'm calling Natalensis v2 since I went back and grew different genetics from my first ones. These were way stronger and more visual and I think I have a keeper culture of them.
Natalensis v2 Harvested Nov, 29th 2024. 27qt EZ Dial mono WBS:CVG @ 1:4. 2 weeks to pin from spawn. 2 weeks to mature. Dried in dehydrator 24h@165f. Stored in glass jar with desiccant and O2 absorber. Well mixed when put in storage and picked 1 gram random sample to grind up for the test. I weighed out .05g of the homogenized mix for the test. RESULTS: This pic shows it a little darker then it was. I'm seeing it at 10mg/g or 1.0%. triple that to get the 30mg/g or 3%.
 Natalensis on the right.

That result tracks inline with my most recent Qtest at roughly 3.1%. Good work sir.
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Nice to know considering I have genetics descended from the both of you, confirms why I felt my most recent trip was particularly strong.
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Blueberry Muffin said: One friend had a very intense trip on 2g dried nats with entities, hallways etc. Reminded him of his ayahuasca experience. Another travelled the catverse with 1.5g. Yet another connected with the universe on 2g. So nats are pretty potent.
Same and then some... but minus the cats.
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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis thread [Re: Carnonos] 2
#28760145 - 05/03/24 08:40 AM (1 month, 24 days ago) |
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I noticed I put the wrong year in my post.  It would be cool if I could harvest from the future, it would save a lot of time. I went back and corrected my date for future references.
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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis thread [Re: Bigworm] 3
#28761121 - 05/04/24 01:44 AM (1 month, 23 days ago) |
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Took some nat spores to a t1 plate to phenohunt. A couple of typical looking spaghetti nats popped up, then the shoebox it was growing in started to go green. I let it ride just to see if some other clone worthy fruits might pop up and they did! Was able to snag an albino one, and then later another regular pigmented fruit popped up, but it was short and fat unlike the typical spaghetti pheno I usually get from nats.
Albino:

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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis thread [Re: psichopath] 1
#28761232 - 05/04/24 06:58 AM (1 month, 23 days ago) |
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psichopath said: Took some nat spores to a t1 plate to phenohunt. A couple of typical looking spaghetti nats popped up, then the shoebox it was growing in started to go green. I let it ride just to see if some other clone worthy fruits might pop up and they did! Was able to snag an albino one, and then later another regular pigmented fruit popped up, but it was short and fat unlike the typical spaghetti pheno I usually get from nats.
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Wow. Good job! You sure those are nats? Could you take a photo of of the gills and stem?
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I'm pretty certain, you could definitely tell from the second flush, as the rim of the cap had that silverish blue hue to them. Unfortunately I didnt snap a pic of that because it wasn't very photogenic. But ive got some clones from those tubs going to grain soon, so I'll be sure to get some pics of the gills when they pop up
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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis thread [Re: psichopath] 1
#28761463 - 05/04/24 10:36 AM (1 month, 22 days ago) |
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psichopath said: Took some nat spores to a t1 plate to phenohunt. A couple of typical looking spaghetti nats popped up, then the shoebox it was growing in started to go green. I let it ride just to see if some other clone worthy fruits might pop up and they did! Was able to snag an albino one, and then later another regular pigmented fruit popped up, but it was short and fat unlike the typical spaghetti pheno I usually get from nats.
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These look like cubensis
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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis thread [Re: TheAtlantean]
#28761692 - 05/04/24 02:13 PM (1 month, 22 days ago) |
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also, you got to take into account people's medication too, like I take Prozac like I have the highest dose that you can take on it and it makes my tolerance for mushrooms stupid high 2 g of anything even pans doesn't really do a lot for me I have to eat a. excessive amount I have still yet to eat enough to have like a full-blown trip where it's like a level three or four.
So I'm jealous!!!! You all have it good! 🤣
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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis thread [Re: NattyOrNice] 3
#28761696 - 05/04/24 02:15 PM (1 month, 22 days ago) |
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Those are natalensis! 😄
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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis thread [Re: TheAtlantean]
#28761697 - 05/04/24 02:16 PM (1 month, 22 days ago) |
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It came from spores I printed myself of a definite Nat fruit. The grow that it came from had all the telltale signs of nats(super crazy rhizo, marshmallow overlay puffballs etc). Perhaps its possible some spores from some cubes blew over inside the shoebox it was printing in, but I've never had something like that happen to me before.
I got 2 shoeboxes going now from my first clones of the albino and the short fat nat fruiting right now. So I'll post pics of that very soon and then it can be determined if its nats or not. I'm 95% sure it is though. But we will see
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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis thread [Re: psichopath]
#28761704 - 05/04/24 02:19 PM (1 month, 22 days ago) |
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It could very well be nats I mean I've seen pictures of natalensis that is like a mutant like a enigma but it was nats like if you're hunting for phenotypes you could probably find any sort of color or you know strange looks or fat short skinny whatever you know so yeah I guess without seeing the gills it'd be pretty tough to tell. And the short ones they kind of look like the "blue meanies"(mislabeled!) from edenshrooms. Which I'm pretty sure is natalensis cuz I've gotten spores from them before and it just did overlay but I mean I ate a crap time to overlay and it was definitely strong but yeah
Edited by NattyOrNice (05/04/24 02:22 PM)
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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis thread [Re: NattyOrNice] 1
#28762640 - 05/05/24 09:57 AM (1 month, 21 days ago) |
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Question why is there thick matting on this natal tub in babysitting while there away for the week
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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis thread [Re: vicepope]
#28762694 - 05/05/24 10:24 AM (1 month, 21 days ago) |
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Looks like Natalensis myc doing Natalensis myc things.
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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis thread [Re: Bigworm] 3
#28764416 - 05/06/24 05:43 PM (1 month, 20 days ago) |
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Some bigger fruit from the second flush. These are supposedly natalensis, but still not sure.
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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis thread [Re: Breadly710]
#28764748 - 05/06/24 10:33 PM (1 month, 20 days ago) |
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Those look like subdecurrent gills on the larger fruit which as far as I know would mean that it is probably natalensis. I'm still a noob though so take it with a grain of salt.
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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis thread [Re: LyleChipperson]
#28765982 - 05/08/24 02:15 AM (1 month, 19 days ago) |
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The boxes were fine, I'm just about to pick most of the first flush from both. I was hoping for a better canopy or bigger fruits, but I'll have to wait and see if the second flush improves or my other tubs give me something better to clone.

I ended up running 6 or 7 shoeboxes from the same inoculant and some of them had lower yields, most were like these but there's plenty of room for improvement overall. Only tested once at 0.5g and felt stronger than the equivalent of cubes with 0 come up anxiety and stomach grumbling, which is exactly what I was looking for.
Took a couple clones and made SSLC from the biggest one that was in a cluster. Tested on 3 agar plates that were clean for 7-10 days, I inoculated 4 jars with it and afterwards 2 plates developed tiny spots of mold, so I hope that came from outside and not the SSLC. The jars are going quicker compared to the first run, 1 jar is already done at day 10 and will be spawned today or tomorrow, the rest are 80-95% done.
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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis thread [Re: NattyOrNice] 1
#28766702 - 05/08/24 03:20 PM (1 month, 18 days ago) |
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Here's the pic of the gills. So what do you think? Nat or not? Tbh I don't know what makes Nat gills different, haven't read up about it
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