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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Stipe-n Cap] 1
#28749245 - 04/25/24 01:21 PM (1 month, 30 days ago) |
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They make a clear spray paint that I use when I make beer labels. It'd probably work very well in this application too?
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: YoshiTrainer] 4
#28749288 - 04/25/24 01:48 PM (1 month, 30 days ago) |
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In the art world they call it fixative and is used on drawings like pencil, chalk or charcoal, which prevents smudging and powdering without altering the look of the medium/work. If you use a lacquer/varnish then it will alter the natural appearance by deepening the color and might also alter the gloss.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Baba Yaga]
#28749295 - 04/25/24 01:55 PM (1 month, 30 days ago) |
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Baba Yaga said: In the art world they call it fixative and is used on drawings like pencil, chalk or charcoal, which prevents smudging and powdering without altering the look of the medium/work. If you use a lacquer/varnish then it will alter the natural appearance by deepening the color and might also alter the gloss.
Do you have an example of this? Iโve been needing something like this for fine powder effects and I didnโt know it existed
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Smellyhobbit] 1
#28749314 - 04/25/24 02:18 PM (1 month, 30 days ago) |
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They usually carry this one at Michaels or similar hobby stores. Itโs on the cheaper side of things but has worked for me in the past for charcoals and pastel.
https://www.dickblick.com/products/krylon-gallery-series-fine-art-fixatif/?fromSearch=%2Fsearch%2F%3Fsearchword%3DFixative%20spray
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: TPython] 2
#28749349 - 04/25/24 03:15 PM (1 month, 30 days ago) |
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Any art supply retailer should have a fixative in stock.
EDIT: Are you looking to use this on miniatures? It won't provide any real durability and I guess it still comes off when handled a bit. Not sure how they will perform on top of your top coat either since they are designed to work on paper. If you still want to have a play with it then I would stick to synthetic fixatives and avoid any casein based products.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Baba Yaga]
#28749362 - 04/25/24 03:23 PM (1 month, 30 days ago) |
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SWFL said: I did look at that thread, looks like heโs doing a โpseudocasingโ at spawning and sometimes casing once colonized and sometimes not.
I skip the casing when setting the tub straight to fruiting condition and apply a casing when fruiting condition is introduced after full colonization. I would have a play with both.
Which pan are you growing?
TTBVI and a couple wild prints that I stumbled across on a hike a few weeks ago.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: SWFL] 1
#28749391 - 04/25/24 03:50 PM (1 month, 30 days ago) |
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Lucky! I always envy the folks who can go foraging during the warm season and grab some potent pans right off the paddocks. We only get Pan. cinctulus around my place.
I have not grown TTBVI yet but others like 3.A.M and treefrog IIRC have reported that it does happen to pin before they had a chance to apply a casing and / or does grow through casing. I would give it a lot of FAE from the start. At the moment I run a tropicalis, cambo and a wild cyan and have the old school tubs set up like this.
Top holes wide open and bottom covered with 1 layer of MP tape. Will keep an eye on the surface but will let it dry out lightly before interfering with a mist.

But that is just me and what I am familiar with. There are lots of ways to tackle this. ReverendMyc had good success with no casing no misting neglect TEK in what looks like a variation of a Pastywhyteโs EZ dialed monotub, so there is that to try as well. SwabMarley uses EZ monos as well but does it more traditionally with a casing IIRC and Kirkeng does exclusively unmodified tubs. I guess it doesn't really matter what you do in the end as long as you have a healthy culture and make a few tweaks to adjust to your specific conditions.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Baba Yaga] 2
#28749430 - 04/25/24 04:17 PM (1 month, 30 days ago) |
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Right on, thanks for the advice! I'll report back with tek and results when the time comes.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Smellyhobbit] 2
#28749506 - 04/25/24 05:38 PM (1 month, 30 days ago) |
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Baba Yaga said: In the art world they call it fixative and is used on drawings like pencil, chalk or charcoal, which prevents smudging and powdering without altering the look of the medium/work. If you use a lacquer/varnish then it will alter the natural appearance by deepening the color and might also alter the gloss.
Do you have an example of this? Iโve been needing something like this for fine powder effects and I didnโt know it existed
When I was a kid I used spray adhesive on orb weaver webs so I could catch them on black construction paper. Used to have a nice lil collection.
(No spoods hurt in the process)
Probably not what you had in mind, but it's a use for spray adhesive in art. Fun to do with kids too!
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Mr Piggy]
#28749531 - 04/25/24 05:55 PM (1 month, 30 days ago) |
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Hey guys I have a really dumb question....
I got some regular pan cyans that I had consolidating for a few weeks that I didnt get to fruiting yet. I just opened it up now and I got a few tiny pins forming right now and I decided to dunk to rehydrate them before I case them tomorrow. My question is will it be able to fruit again after this?
I dont grow pans often and sometimes it feels like when you miss that window for fruiting with pans that it wont fruit again. But maybe I am just overthinking.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: kilohalo5] 2
#28749622 - 04/25/24 07:16 PM (1 month, 30 days ago) |
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Why dunk though? I assume it didn't loose a lot of moisture during colonization with the lid on. I would have just cased and given it a good misting and put into fruiting. But I don't even know what it looks like so I'm only generally expressing my opinion here and since it's already been dunked you will have to roll with it anyway.
For the record it would be nice to hear and see how this ends since it's not the usual procedure and might have an interesting outcome.
Looking forward to an update
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Baba Yaga] 3
#28749708 - 04/25/24 08:24 PM (1 month, 30 days ago) |
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Got some of my first pins coming in of my TTBVI.

First pans for me!
Some suspect looking growth going on here and there but if I can get a single harvest out of it I will be a happy camper
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: CocaineBuffet]
#28749721 - 04/25/24 08:30 PM (1 month, 30 days ago) |
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Honestly I submerge basically everything to rehydrate. I definitely wasnt expecting to see pins popping up when I opened the lid!
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: CocaineBuffet] 1
#28749790 - 04/25/24 09:10 PM (1 month, 30 days ago) |
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CocaineBuffet said: Got some of my first pins coming in of my TTBVI.

First pans for me!
Some suspect looking growth going on here and there but if I can get a single harvest out of it I will be a happy camper 
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: kilohalo5] 3
#28749820 - 04/25/24 09:31 PM (1 month, 30 days ago) |
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Sending this to grain tomorrow.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Stipe-n Cap] 1
#28750850 - 04/26/24 05:30 PM (1 month, 29 days ago) |
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Mr Piggy said: Damn dad, just say you like the macaroni collage and pat him on the head.
Art critics are everywhere.
I only asked because I want to do something similar in the future, it's not a criticism.
There's sprays at art stores that are meant for charcoal drawings, IIRC. Hairspray is pretty good though, just a quick spritz not enough to get the prints wet
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Baba Yaga] 1
#28750852 - 04/26/24 05:31 PM (1 month, 29 days ago) |
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Baba Yaga said: In the art world they call it fixative and is used on drawings like pencil, chalk or charcoal, which prevents smudging and powdering without altering the look of the medium/work. If you use a lacquer/varnish then it will alter the natural appearance by deepening the color and might also alter the gloss.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: SirPsycho] 4
#28751598 - 04/27/24 08:04 AM (1 month, 28 days ago) |
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Good morning everyone - been abit, moved across the country.
Anyway - giving away some PHV prints over in the marketplace. Did a little a/b test on that batch: dehydrator v air-dry (in front of hood) Dehydrator fruit came in slightly higher at 2.1 to 1.8. Not claiming anything at all, just an observation from a novice grower.
charts included in that little write-up for giveaway.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: MurphSmurf] 10
#28751683 - 04/27/24 09:26 AM (1 month, 28 days ago) |
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TTBVI & MIB. Another round uncased
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: MojaveMyc] 2
#28752054 - 04/27/24 02:01 PM (1 month, 28 days ago) |
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So I got my ttbvi and bisporus tubs in the tent. Spawned to bulk on the 22nd. I've been suspicious of the ttbvi. First time with pans so im a little back and forth with thinking it's mold.
Today the bisporus tub looked ready to case , but still no visable growth popping through on the ttbvi. This is reinforcing my fears.
I'm doing some plates today so I'm gonna do a fresh ttbvi swab, and try out another culture while I wait for this to hopefully fruit.
Here's the bisporus tub

And here's a photo of that same ttbvi culture in a jar of poo rye. Does it usually get that cottony? It didnt look like that until fully colonized. It wss alot whispier before. Sorry about photo quality. That poo really messes up the view.
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