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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis thread [Re: alexdahbomb] * 1
    #28744508 - 04/21/24 11:56 AM (2 months, 4 days ago)

It's only been a week since my first harvest and the second flush is already coming in...

 

These chonkers are easily TWICE the size of the biggest pin from the first flush at the same stage...

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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis thread [Re: Carnonos] * 1
    #28745184 - 04/22/24 04:44 AM (2 months, 4 days ago)

I received a P. Natalensis LC Syringe from my vendor and tested it in 6 agar plates. I'm really surprised by their growth and characteristics.

Which of those plates would you transfer and which part?

I've also inoculated 2 small jars of rye grain just to see how it performs directly from the syringe.



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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis thread [Re: ContactUFO]
    #28745185 - 04/22/24 04:46 AM (2 months, 4 days ago)

I believe the best transfer is something like around 5-6 o'clock on the fourth plate. Plate 3 is what I like to see on my plates as well. They all look good though even if scalloping and oddly spread apart rhizos like that make me think of bacterial infections.

Plate 6 also looks very good to me

Look for consistency IMO. They have very similar mycelium to cubensis just a lot more aggressive in general. I like when my rhizos got some little fluff inbetween them, not wide gaps

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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis thread [Re: MrJong] * 1
    #28745189 - 04/22/24 04:55 AM (2 months, 4 days ago)

Interesting. As you may have seen in my other post, i'm very new in this hobby. I always thought, that rhizo growth is something most cultivators are looking for.

Looks like i have to make a deeper dive into the topic of Rhizo growth. I let them colonize a bit further and will take 3 samples each of your proposed areas.

Thanks :thanx:


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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis thread [Re: ContactUFO]
    #28745193 - 04/22/24 05:06 AM (2 months, 4 days ago)

If after transfering they grow back to that shape it's probably safe to assume that they are clean, as long as you don't mess it up yourself. You can't just control exactly how they decide to grow. It's just that coming from an untested source it's better to go for more specific stuff IMO.

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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis thread [Re: ContactUFO] * 2
    #28745350 - 04/22/24 09:58 AM (2 months, 3 days ago)

Reading back to the start of the thread it was thought to go for tomentose mycelium over rhizomorphic as the the rhizo overlays too much to get a good pin set. :shrug:


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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis thread [Re: shuna] * 1
    #28745379 - 04/22/24 10:49 AM (2 months, 3 days ago)

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Reading back to the start of the thread it was thought to go for tomentose mycelium over rhizomorphic as the the rhizo overlays too much to get a good pin set. :shrug:




And by halfway through the thread IIRC the consensus changed, tomentose or rhizo didn't seem to make much of a difference - it came down to selecting genetics that didn't overlay + low spawn rate & high FAE

My own multispore grow had a mix of tomentose, rhizo, and a silky, fluffy semi-rhizo, but the spores all came from a fairly well stabilized low-overlay line of genetics and I experienced hardly any; the largest spots were no bigger than a nickle and only 1/8-1/4" thick.

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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis thread [Re: Carnonos] * 2
    #28745538 - 04/22/24 02:22 PM (2 months, 3 days ago)

Hello ! My first try with Natalensis.
Tried BRF for the little jar, rye for the biggest one.
Just cased them, curious to see how it will go 🙏





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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis thread [Re: mill] * 1
    #28746234 - 04/23/24 07:20 AM (2 months, 3 days ago)



They are coming in all over the place. Excited to have some fruits on my first go. Have a few more jars that i will spawn today. Quick question, when do the caps start to lighten in color?

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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis thread [Re: Breadly710] * 5
    #28746593 - 04/23/24 12:53 PM (2 months, 2 days ago)

Second flush coming in, but this cluster takes all the cake!

   


Just got done doing some deeeeep & much needed work this morning using fruits from the first flush of this tub... If this cluster has similar potency, all I can say is:

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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis thread [Re: Carnonos]
    #28747257 - 04/23/24 08:11 PM (2 months, 2 days ago)

Inoculated a second, smaller bag with that same LC a week or so ago as a bit of a backup in case anything goes wrong with the original. I figured due to the really slow growth of the first bag (been almost a month since inoculation, a week or so since the first shake, and am just now creeping up to about 40%) that i'd have plenty of time to figure out what to do with it, that hasn't been the case, it's colonising extremely fast and at this rate will be ready to put to sub in a week or so probably. It's a 500 gram bag, do you guys reckon i'd be fine putting it in my 30l monotub or would I be better of giving shoeboxes a try? Very inexperienced with all of this and have struggled to find info on how deep my sub should fill the monotub. Was planning to go with a 1:3 or 1:4 spawn to bulk ratio based off what i've read in this thread.

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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis thread [Re: MeerkatsMycology]
    #28747477 - 04/24/24 02:20 AM (2 months, 2 days ago)

One 500g bag of spawn would suit a shoe box better than 30L tub I reckon. A 2inch sub seems like a good general size to aim for.


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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis thread [Re: shuna]
    #28748321 - 04/24/24 07:18 PM (2 months, 1 day ago)

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One 500g bag of spawn would suit a shoe box better than 30L tub I reckon. A 2inch sub seems like a good general size to aim for.




Thanks, yeah I think I will have to go with shoebox then, even at 1:4 I won't be at 2 inches. Do you think
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26009662
Would work alright for nats? Seems like people have had a lot of good results with cubes using that tek, but it has zero FAE until the fruits grow big enough to physically push the lid off of the container, and I've seen DERRAYLD talk about how nats like a lot of FAE to grow properly. I apologise for asking to be spoon-fed here, again, am a turbo noob.
As an aside what do you think could be the cause of my second bag colonising that much faster? They are right next to eachother and exposed to the exact same temperatures, is the difference between millet and rye that drastic?
Here is bag one 27 days after inoculation



And here is bag two 9 days after inoculation



I understand that the second bag is half the size of the first, but that still seems like a crazy difference considering that they are genetically identical.

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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis thread [Re: MeerkatsMycology]
    #28748735 - 04/25/24 02:58 AM (2 months, 1 day ago)

I'm a cube/nat noob too, but lurk and read. With a tub lid, if you flip the lid wrong side up and set it at a slight angle to make gaps at the corners, that will give enough FAE.

The first bag is probably contaminated then if it's taking too long, try breaking it up and shaking to see how it recovers.

From what I gather nats grow a lot like cubes, pretty fool proof not to get fruits as long as you've got good clean spawn.


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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis thread [Re: shuna] * 1
    #28748765 - 04/25/24 04:13 AM (2 months, 1 day ago)

Lc doesn’t necessarily mean you’ll get identical genetics each time, I was so disappointed when I figured that out :lol:

I think the difference in speed is probably better grain prep in the second one.


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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis thread [Re: A.k.a] * 4
    #28748881 - 04/25/24 07:58 AM (2 months, 1 day ago)







First ever harvest today! I left a few of the smaller ones. it came out to 255 wet. I just want your opinions, they look like cubes to me(but I’m a noob), but they were sold as p. Nats. When I look at the gills and vail I feel like maybe they are nats? Let me know if I have mystery cubes or Natalensis. Thanks guys.

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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis thread [Re: Breadly710] * 1
    #28748952 - 04/25/24 09:17 AM (2 months, 22 hours ago)

Congrats on the harvest! Everything is telling me nats. Attached gills, shape of gills, lack of veil remnants once torn. The cap color is throwing me off but there has been a bunch of cap shades so anything is possible. Trip wise they are different so that might help you assess what they are for your personal decision. I wouldn't share the spores as nats unless you have them checked, but you could share them as mystery spores.


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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis thread [Re: Bigworm]
    #28748956 - 04/25/24 09:19 AM (2 months, 22 hours ago)

Yup, definitely nats. They're lookalikes. Big one is the gills attached to and going down the stipe (compare with my profile pic - it's a cube)

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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis thread [Re: Bigworm] * 2
    #28748958 - 04/25/24 09:22 AM (2 months, 22 hours ago)

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Everything is telling me nats. Attached gills, shape of gills, lack of veil remnants once torn. The cap color is throwing me off but there has been a bunch of cap shades so anything is possible. Trip wise they are different so that might help you assess what they are for your personal decision. I wouldn't share the spores as nats unless you have them checked, but you could share them as mystery spores.




Thanks, I think the jars will be labeled "natal?" and will order some nat spores from a new vendor. Even if they are nats, i want some different genitics, I like the look of the classic nat caps.

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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis thread [Re: Breadly710] * 2
    #28749848 - 04/25/24 09:46 PM (2 months, 10 hours ago)

Those look cube to me. The myc, the color of the cap and stem, the veil.  The gills are the only thing that look correct to me, but cubes can have that also.

They could be natal but I wouldn’t spread spores from those and say it was. Because of this issue with natalensis and cubes I would try again or source new spores until you get a tub that is obviously natalensis.

I’m out of town for a couple weeks but I can send a print when I get back if you want one.


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