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Re: How long until you see pins with PF Tek Water Tub? [Re: Cosmikktraveler]
    #28746747 - 04/23/24 02:45 PM (2 months, 2 days ago)

Disclaimer: I've never grown any mushrooms yet but have read a bunch about PF Tek.

I didn't see any mention of spraying the verm with mist to hydrate after the dunk and roll. It's my understanding that you still need to wet them up like you would before putting them in a water tub, same as for SGFC.

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Re: How long until you see pins with PF Tek Water Tub? [Re: alligator]
    #28746763 - 04/23/24 02:56 PM (2 months, 2 days ago)

Since I still haven't gotten to that stage I don't know how long until pins is typical, so maybe someone else knows. The RR mushroom video where I first saw the Tek demonstrated showed some pretty sizable pins after 4 days though.

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Re: How long until you see pins with PF Tek Water Tub? [Re: alligator]
    #28746797 - 04/23/24 03:15 PM (2 months, 2 days ago)

Your first picture has a pin in it. It really just happens when it happens. There’s no timetable with multispore cakes.


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Re: How long until you see pins with PF Tek Water Tub? [Re: alligator]
    #28746803 - 04/23/24 03:21 PM (2 months, 2 days ago)

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Disclaimer: I've never grown any mushrooms yet but have read a bunch about PF Tek.

I didn't see any mention of spraying the verm with mist to hydrate after the dunk and roll. It's my understanding that you still need to wet them up like you would before putting them in a water tub, same as for SGFC.




You can use wet verm or dry verm, I don't think it's so important. But wetting the verm gives your cake even more water to pull from and creates nice microclimate on the surface. They'll grab onto it and fruit inbetween the rocks, that's perfect conditions for them.

As for the pinning, like Hob mentioned multispore is pretty much random. You've got a bunch of different genetics compatible and not growing together in there.

When you have fruits grab one of the faster and nicer looking ones and clone from there. You have to take clean tissue from inside the stem if you want to pull it off easily. Put it to agar and clean it up if you need to, and you'll have a solid isolated clone that will grow much better and consistent pinsets in your future grows.

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Re: How long until you see pins with PF Tek Water Tub? [Re: MrJong]
    #28746891 - 04/23/24 04:06 PM (2 months, 2 days ago)

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Mateja said:
So this is the second flush from these two 22L and 32L tubs, picked these fruits 2 days ago



And the remaining cakes are finishing up today



I can hardly tell the difference between first and second flush, cakes seem to flush evenly between the two flushes
with slightly bigger fruits in flush two. Can't even tell the difference between the substrates in flush one and flush two.


Flush one pins and fruits





Flush two pins and fruits





Are these not fat enough for you tripdawg?

From Matejas water tub thread

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Re: How long until you see pins with PF Tek Water Tub? [Re: TPython]
    #28746918 - 04/23/24 04:17 PM (2 months, 2 days ago)

lol no i already explained whats up in thats thread:zombie3:


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Re: How long until you see pins with PF Tek Water Tub? [Re: tripdawg420]
    #28746922 - 04/23/24 04:22 PM (2 months, 2 days ago)

You have some examples of the results you get in the SGFC? I’m interested to see these fatties

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Re: How long until you see pins with PF Tek Water Tub? [Re: TPython] * 1
    #28746927 - 04/23/24 04:24 PM (2 months, 2 days ago)

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Are these not fat enough for you tripdawg?
From Matejas water tub thread






I mean, I already posted these to him on another thread. First and like third or fourth flush. You can't convince him lol

Pulling about 100g fresh from each flush pretty much. Per 250ml cake. Went up to 8 flushes before contam (Slowed down to like 50-75g after fourth)

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Re: How long until you see pins with PF Tek Water Tub? [Re: MrJong]
    #28746932 - 04/23/24 04:26 PM (2 months, 2 days ago)

that was hella long ago well i have my very last cake i ever harvested

this was the second flush


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Re: How long until you see pins with PF Tek Water Tub? [Re: tripdawg420] * 1
    #28746946 - 04/23/24 04:34 PM (2 months, 2 days ago)

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that was hella long ago well i have my very last cake i ever harvested

this was the second flush



Lookin pretty standard to me but nice fruits none the less:justdontknow:

And those are some beautiful cakes Mr Jong, great job👍

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Re: How long until you see pins with PF Tek Water Tub? [Re: tripdawg420] * 1
    #28746948 - 04/23/24 04:36 PM (2 months, 2 days ago)



Random shit from a later flush. Common occurence. Love the funky look, it's two pins that ended up merging together as they grew.

(Only wore gloves because I fed it to a friend.)

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Re: How long until you see pins with PF Tek Water Tub? [Re: TPython]
    #28746955 - 04/23/24 04:40 PM (2 months, 2 days ago)

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Quote:

tripdawg420 said:
that was hella long ago well i have my very last cake i ever harvested

this was the second flush



Lookin pretty standard to me but nice fruits none the less:justdontknow:

And those are some beautiful cakes Mr Jong, great job👍




BRF and coconut flour mixed up together seems to be doing wonders for me for some reason. Dunno if they like the fat from the coconut or if it was just the genetics or both, but these guys were producing mad. Up to like 80% of the stems were just full. Probably luck on genetics. I still got them running on a plate around

And yeah that looks pretty standard to me too. Didn't want to sound like the asshole though

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Re: How long until you see pins with PF Tek Water Tub? [Re: TPython]
    #28746962 - 04/23/24 04:44 PM (2 months, 2 days ago)

Quote:

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Quote:

tripdawg420 said:
that was hella long ago well i have my very last cake i ever harvested

this was the second flush



Lookin pretty standard to me but nice fruits none the less:justdontknow:

And those are some beautiful cakes Mr Jong, great job👍



can see whats up with you


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Re: How long until you see pins with PF Tek Water Tub? [Re: tripdawg420]
    #28746973 - 04/23/24 04:47 PM (2 months, 2 days ago)

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can see whats up with you




Nah man I mean it's just that both methods produce the same. Then genetics make a difference and I guess how you prepare your cake somehow.

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Re: How long until you see pins with PF Tek Water Tub? [Re: MrJong] * 2
    #28746986 - 04/23/24 04:51 PM (2 months, 2 days ago)

really fuck all that cake shit blowed out mf tubs:headbang3:


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Re: How long until you see pins with PF Tek Water Tub? [Re: tripdawg420]
    #28746991 - 04/23/24 04:54 PM (2 months, 2 days ago)

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really fuck all that cake shit blowed out mf tubs:headbang3:





Hell ye. I'll have some to post soon, got some JFs running on rye. They're growing even more aggressive than nats on plates, covering the fucking lid with myc. Crazy shit. Just can't wait to see what they produce in a tub

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Re: How long until you see pins with PF Tek Water Tub? [Re: TPython] * 2
    #28746995 - 04/23/24 04:56 PM (2 months, 2 days ago)

You know we aren’t saying a SGFC doesn’t work, right? It’s just objectively worse than a water tub, fahtlock, or burying the cake in coir. It is the least desirable option. That doesn’t mean it won’t get you fruits.


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Re: How long until you see pins with PF Tek Water Tub? [Re: MrJong] * 1
    #28747026 - 04/23/24 05:10 PM (2 months, 2 days ago)

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tripdawg420 said:
can see whats up with you



I haven’t been growing cakes for a while now but the ease of use and effectiveness of a water tub seems to be better in a lot more instances than the SGFC. Where it seems like air exchange and drying out becomes a bigger issue.

I have a couple smaller tubs I plan on throwin some water in and using in different settings soon.

And when it comes to growing “fatties” in any chamber I think a majority of that comes down to genetics.

Here’s a couple of examples of what my standard MS cakes would look like in my old SGFC. I’d like to think if I was using a water tub back then the cakes wouldn’t be so starved for moisture. To each their own tho

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Re: How long until you see pins with PF Tek Water Tub? [Re: TPython]
    #28747030 - 04/23/24 05:13 PM (2 months, 2 days ago)

Yeah, the truth is that cubes just don't want that much air exchange in the first place so you're only really just adding things to factor in while trying to keep the same moisture levels anyway

I'd have the occasional flush that craved water like a withdrawing crackhead though for some reason, they'd just grow straight down into the water



I remember trying to hold them up with some object but they'd still fold down again and straight into it. Crazy stuff

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Re: How long until you see pins with PF Tek Water Tub? [Re: MrJong]
    #28747038 - 04/23/24 05:18 PM (2 months, 2 days ago)

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Yeah, the truth is that cubes just don't want that much air exchange in the first place so you're only really just adding things to factor in while trying to keep the same moisture levels anyway



so what ur really saying is RR is wrong and dude with a few years of just shooting spores makes a better fc than RR who understands how air and moister and fea they already been there w that bs years ago


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