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OfflineGernBlanston
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Re: Impeach Bush? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2877789 - 07/11/04 10:12 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

A Daily Show-esque joke.  But while he never said it out loud, you know that's exactly what was going through his widdle bald head.

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Re: Impeach Bush? [Re: Sclorch]
    #2877899 - 07/11/04 11:15 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

I had thought about this actually and ancalagon summed it up pretty well.

The only reason it seems that vast experience is needed is because of the hierarchy they've created to ensure their longevity.

If they are to truly represent the best interests of the people they need simply to be capable of acting towards this goal. Hopefully, mostly competent people would be elected and as ancalagon said, experience in politics would not have to be absent either.

The problem with them being able to serve more than one term means that much of their effort is spent on being re elected, even if this effort conflicts with the wishes and best interest of the people.


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Re: Impeach Bush? [Re: HagbardCeline]
    #2877984 - 07/11/04 11:57 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

In the government described by the Constitution of the United States, there is no need for political experience. It probably would work just fine if names were chosen at random out of phone books. I personally feel that even in the bloated Nanny State the US federal government of today, the odds are that this method of choosing members of the House and Senate would be more satisfactory than the system in place today.

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Re: Impeach Bush? [Re: Phred]
    #2878020 - 07/11/04 12:21 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

I personally feel that even in the bloated Nanny State the US federal government of today, the odds are that this method of choosing members of the House and Senate would be more satisfactory than the system in place today.

It probably would be better.

That's sad.  :sad:


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Re: Impeach Bush? [Re: Ed1]
    #2878043 - 07/11/04 12:30 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Ed1 said:
Again, this just goes to show that people who blame Bush for everything are just talking out their ass.




actually I blamed everyone in the Bush Administration equally.
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Re: Impeach Bush? [Re: Sclorch]
    #2878410 - 07/11/04 03:17 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

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Sclorch said:
Though it might sound like a good idea on the surface (Strom Thurmond comes to mind), this is definitely not a sound idea. A one-term limit would not only keep the power mongers out of office (your presumed goal with this point), but it would also make it pretty much impossible for a politician to gain/have much experience. People with experience need to be running this country, not some yo-yo with a pretty face.



I personally would prefer to deal with inexperienced confidence men, thieves and liars than those who have been well schooled in these arts. The same argument against putting drug users in institutions with experienced criminals could be made against putting well meaning neophyte legislators among experienced career manipulators. The newcomers are quickly schooled in the finer points of deception, power and intimidation else they rarely survive or flourish in environments populated by those who have traded their morality and conscience for expediency. The best way to avoid this situation is to return to the concept of citizen legislators and away from career politicians.

I recommend that you give some thought to the issues brought up by 'Public Choice Theory' which the 1986 nobel prize winner James Buchanan helped to develope.


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Re: Impeach Bush? [Re: Ed1]
    #2880195 - 07/11/04 11:29 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

I just read the first few lines of this post before coming up with a question.

America is attacking smaller nations because they "have" weapons and are a "threat". America has so many nukes, weapons, military technology, you name it. Therefore they pose a threat to the entire world. By this definition is Cheney not saying everyone should attack America?

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Re: Impeach Bush? [Re: Tasty_Smurf_House]
    #2880433 - 07/12/04 12:31 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Like I mean come on. They say they THINK Iraq MIGHT have weapons? Hah. America DOES have weapons. Common knowledge.

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