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If kerry is elected, will He surrender to Terrorists?
    #2874277 - 07/09/04 08:11 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Will kerry wave the white flag and surrender America to those who wish to destroy It? Or will he continue to fight to keep Americans safe by taking no shit from the adversaries?

Edited by Stein (07/09/04 08:17 PM)

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Re: If kerry is elected, will He surrender to Terrorists? [Re: Stein]
    #2874321 - 07/09/04 08:28 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Kerry said he will fight the war on terrorism. He also said that coalition troops will stay in Iraq if they are needed there. The Iraq government wants them there.

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Re: If kerry is elected, will He surrender to Terrorists? [Re: Stein]
    #2874332 - 07/09/04 08:33 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

America's greatest enemies are among it's own populace. If American citizens are targets of terrorists, it is a result of the actions of our own government which has seen fit to involve itself all over the globe and abandon the counsel of it's founders and others. Have you ever read George Washington's Farewell Address? Have you ever read Thomas Jefferson's First Inaugural Address? Have you ever read Dwight D. Eisenhower's Military-Industrial Complex Speech?


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Re: If kerry is elected, will He surrender to Terrorists? [Re: Evolving]
    #2874343 - 07/09/04 08:36 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

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Evolving said:
America's greatest enemies are among it's own populace. If American citizens are targets of terrorists, it is a result of the actions of our own government which has seen fit to involve itself all over the globe and abandon the counsel of it's founders and others. Have you ever read George Washington's Farewell Address? Have you ever read Thomas Jefferson's First Inaugural Address? Have you ever read Dwight D. Eisenhower's Military-Industrial Complex Speech?





That's not true. Islam is the reason Americans are targets. The fastest way to stop this is to drop H bombs in various places in the mid east and then finish up with plenty of nerve gas.

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Re: If kerry is elected, will He surrender to Terrorists? [Re: Ed1]
    #2874351 - 07/09/04 08:39 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Racist pig...


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Re: If kerry is elected, will He surrender to Terrorists? [Re: Ed1]
    #2874359 - 07/09/04 08:42 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Read the words of Osama Bin Laden and Ramzi Yousef (convicted of the first world trade center bombing). While your at it, read the three previous links I provided. It's okay to alleviate your ignorance.


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Re: If kerry is elected, will He surrender to Terrorists? [Re: Evolving]
    #2874366 - 07/09/04 08:44 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Islam is a religion not a race. Calling me a racist and other mistakes in logic by trendal shows his lack of education.

Edited by Ed1 (07/09/04 08:45 PM)

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Re: If kerry is elected, will He surrender to Terrorists? [Re: Ed1]
    #2874373 - 07/09/04 08:46 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

But advocating the H-bombing the mid-east doesn't hint at racism? Seems pretty anti-semite to me.


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Re: If kerry is elected, will He surrender to Terrorists? [Re: Ed1]
    #2874377 - 07/09/04 08:47 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

:lol:

There are sections of many cities here in North America which have a large Islamic population...why don't we just drop a couple nukes on those cities as well?


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Re: If kerry is elected, will He surrender to Terrorists? [Re: Evolving]
    #2874381 - 07/09/04 08:49 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Careful man, you get on Ed1's bad side and he'll give you a complete nonsense rating :smirk:


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Re: If kerry is elected, will He surrender to Terrorists? [Re: trendal]
    #2874388 - 07/09/04 08:51 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Of course we can't resort to H bombs and nerve gas like some Islamists we know (Saddam and Iran), so we have to fight conventional wars with the Islamic terrorists. There's nothing you can do about it. You may have noticed that no one has called for Bush's impeachment and no American is standing trial for war crimes. That just shows that people agree with what we are doing.

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Re: If kerry is elected, will He surrender to Terrorists? [Re: Ed1]
    #2874399 - 07/09/04 08:53 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

You people are just talking out your ass. You read propaganda that was placed by Islamic terrorists and believe it. Next thing you will see Islamic theocracies in your countries and you won't be allowed to disagree with those people.

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Re: If kerry is elected, will He surrender to Terrorists? [Re: Ed1]
    #2874408 - 07/09/04 08:56 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

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Ed1 said:
The fastest way to stop this is to drop H bombs in various places in the mid east and then finish up with plenty of nerve gas.



Quote:

Ed1 said:
Of course we can't resort to H bombs and nerve gas like some Islamists we know




Make up your mind...


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Re: If kerry is elected, will He surrender to Terrorists? [Re: Ed1]
    #2874420 - 07/09/04 09:00 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Have you read the links that I provided yet? Have you read the statements of the two people I mentioned? If not, you are the one talking out of his ass. If you had a strong mind, you would not be afraid to expose yourself to others' thoughts. It is a fool who does not attempt to understand his enemy when the chance is available. You have to be a complete idiot to think that the only reasons for terrorist attacks against the U.S. is because of our (rapidly diminishing) freedoms and/or we are not an Islamic theocracy.


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Re: If kerry is elected, will He surrender to Terrorists? [Re: Ed1]
    #2874427 - 07/09/04 09:03 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

from my perspective it appears you are the one immersed in propaganda...


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Re: If kerry is elected, will He surrender to Terrorists? [Re: Shroomism]
    #2874449 - 07/09/04 09:13 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

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Make up your mind...





I just did.

Oh well, you all prove that you are all useless politically. Lindon LaRouche and Ralf Nader will never be elected president. We have to settle for Bush or Kerry. You won't see any difference.

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Re: If kerry is elected, will He surrender to Terrorists? [Re: Ed1]
    #2874454 - 07/09/04 09:15 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Again: I don't have to settle for either...my country doesn't run a two-party system like the US.


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Re: If kerry is elected, will He surrender to Terrorists? [Re: Ed1]
    #2874455 - 07/09/04 09:15 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

As you can see, trendal's country, Canada is a terrorist haven:


http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=37376

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Re: If kerry is elected, will He surrender to Terrorists? [Re: Ed1]
    #2874470 - 07/09/04 09:20 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

How much has Bush cut spending? By how much has Bush reduced the national debt? How many bills has Bush vetoed? Is government larger or smaller now than before Bush took office? What has Bush done to stop the flow of illegal immigrants into the U.S. BTW, don't you think that some terrorists might find it advantageous to come in among the hordes of swarthy people from the south? Is Bush a 'uniter' or a 'divider?' Where is Bush's more humble foreign policy? Why has Bush abandoned his campaign ideas against nation building? If Islamisist are jealous of our freedoms, do you agree that the best policy is to reduce our freedoms like the Bush administration has done and continues to attempt to do?


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Re: If kerry is elected, will He surrender to Terrorists? [Re: trendal]
    #2874482 - 07/09/04 09:25 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

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There are sections of many cities here in North America which have a large Islamic population...why don't we just drop a couple nukes on those cities as well




Hey, wait a minute!!  I live about 20 minutes from the Largest concentration of Arabs in the United States (Dearborne), don't give him any ideas. :shocked:


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Re: If kerry is elected, will He surrender to Terrorists? [Re: Innvertigo]
    #2874496 - 07/09/04 09:33 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

:lol:
At least he's not the one with his finger on the button, eh?


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Re: If kerry is elected, will He surrender to Terrorists? [Re: Innvertigo]
    #2874500 - 07/09/04 09:34 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

See this pdf file about the three stages of jihad from 'Islam and Terrorism' by Mark Gabriel:

http://home.ripway.com/2003-11/39191/Mark%20Gabriel/3StagesJihadCh11.pdf

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Re: If kerry is elected, will He surrender to Terrorists? [Re: Ed1]
    #2874503 - 07/09/04 09:35 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

How 'bout answering my questions lil' eddie?


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Re: If kerry is elected, will He surrender to Terrorists? [Re: Ed1]
    #2874514 - 07/09/04 09:37 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)


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Re: If kerry is elected, will He surrender to Terrorists? [Re: Ed1]
    #2874549 - 07/09/04 09:49 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)


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Re: If kerry is elected, will He surrender to Terrorists? [Re: Evolving]
    #2876673 - 07/10/04 08:18 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

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Evolving said:
America's greatest enemies are among it's own populace.



Agreed! To save face, I won't name the parties who do their best to appear to be against American ways(which apparently is a fad now), for fear of accusal of being part of this or that party.  I dislike name calling. :frown: but I'm also inclined to dislike those who want to destroy America,  the Country I grew up in.

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If American citizens are targets of terrorists, it is a result of the actions of our own government which has seen fit to involve itself all over the globe and  abandon  the counsel of it's  founders  and others.




Next thing you know we'll all be French.

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Have you ever read  George Washington's Farewell Address?  Have you ever read  Thomas Jefferson's First Inaugural Address?  Have you ever read  Dwight D. Eisenhower's Military-Industrial Complex Speech?




I will when I get home from work.

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