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Offlinecutepeanut
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    #28734654 - 04/12/24 02:37 AM (2 months, 14 days ago)

Hi everyone, please forgive the long post I was hoping that if I shared my full thoughts someone might understand and be able to give me advice, I hope I’ve put it in the right place. I’ve never done mushrooms or any psychedelic before, but recently I have been feeling a very strong pull towards them.

My only experience with drugs is alcohol like most people, and marijuana a handful of times over as many years- I don’t know if I am quite sensitive to it, but I found it to be quite a surprisingly powerful experience and had hallucinations with my eyes closed and once with them open, it completely swept away my impression that drugs are something that are just done by stupid people at parties. I realised I was quite ignorant about them, and it opened my mind to the fact that these things are very spiritual and to be respected. I have always had extremely vivid,powerful and strange dreams and feel like it is somehow related. Some things I’ve read about psychedelics have happened to me in dreams before I read about them, there’s been many times I’ve “blasted off”, or pushed through a membrane and felt like I was going through a portal at incredibly high speeds and am rocketed into bizarre worlds.

I’ve heard since a lot of stories about peoples lives being changed by mushrooms, how for some people one trip has done more for them than years of therapy, removed thought patterns that had been troubling them their whole lives, that they have come into contact with God (I believe in God and have felt the distance between me and him feel like it has increased over the last year so am interested in this) and seemingly fixed their mental illnesses. This might be overblown, but for me it’s very attractive,I have always had huge insecurities that have destroyed relationships and made life difficult, with time and help it has improved but never gone away, but I’ve always felt what I needed was a showdown with the truths that I am so afraid of but never knew how, and now that my relationship is hanging by a thread because of my issues I feel if it doesn’t happen soon then it will be too late.

I have heard of the heroic dose, and of the heroes journey and my thought was that it may be the same thing, for example, a call to adventure, supernatural aid, crossing the threshold into a magical world, harsh trials, a death and rebirth- and returning to the ordinary world with a boon, and coming back new,  the “cosmic dancer”. These all sound similar to something I have read you might go through on a mushroom trip. And I am hoping it is something I could do, to face my problems and fear and return with the gift to give me and my wife a peaceful life through the resolution of my personal issues.

I am not expecting it to be easy, I have caused so much pain and I imagine I will be held accountable for that, and that this will probably be very unpleasant. I do not know what to expect, I have read trip reports but I can’t imagine what it’s really like. I have spoken to someone and could purchase Jack Frost or Malmecs, I’ve tried to research it myself but I’m just at a loss at which to go for and how much to do since I can’t find a lot of information about how these types of mushroom relate to the normal ones.

I thought that if I wanted to replicate this heroes journey I should take a heroic dose and walk into nature, to some woods at a time when no one would be there and prepare for a baptism of fire- but I have no idea if this is actually a completely foolish idea and so I have made this post to please ask for someone to guide me, I don’t know which mushroom to choose, what I never done anything like this so I have a completely humble attitude and will listen and do whatever advice anyone is generous to give, if you have read all of this please accept my gratitude for taking the time to think about and try to help a stranger, I really deeply appreciate it.

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Re: First time advice [Re: cutepeanut]
    #28734710 - 04/12/24 04:15 AM (2 months, 14 days ago)

Howdy

Just take it real slow. Variety does not matter in your case. Just take 1 gram dried at first. Lay in bed with eyes closed for 6 hours. Wait 2 weeks in between doses. Increase by 1 gram when you are comfortable. You can stop at 5 grams if you get that far.  Or reduce back down if it is too much. Enjoy. Be well. :smile:

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Re: First time advice [Re: Soul Flight]
    #28734738 - 04/12/24 04:56 AM (2 months, 14 days ago)

Thank you so much for taking the time to respond, please may I ask- I consider myself quite mentally strong, I have had a few boxing matches and consider my willpower and bravery to be my best features, given that I am looking to try and face my insecurities and uncomfortable truths head on, would you still advise building up slowly at home in this way?

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Re: First time advice [Re: cutepeanut]
    #28734799 - 04/12/24 07:12 AM (2 months, 14 days ago)

Quote:

cutepeanut said:
Thank you so much for taking the time to respond, please may I ask- I consider myself quite mentally strong, I have had a few boxing matches and consider my willpower and bravery to be my best features, given that I am looking to try and face my insecurities and uncomfortable truths head on, would you still advise building up slowly at home in this way?



If you're really up for it you can start with 3 grams and maybe a trusted sober friend around just in case. It is like nothing else and can be overwhelming at first :mushroom2:

But you won't get less out of subsequent experiences by starting with 1g and working up. It'll just build a level of familiarity that will make the higher dosage experiences easier to navigate and increase the chances you find the answers you're looking for

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Re: First time advice [Re: CultiV8]
    #28734823 - 04/12/24 07:52 AM (2 months, 14 days ago)

Thank you so much for the advice, I think I will do as you both have advised then and start low- would the amounts for a low dose change with this Jack Frost or Malmec stuff? I’m not sure which to choose or does it not matter?

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Re: First time advice [Re: cutepeanut]
    #28734871 - 04/12/24 08:43 AM (2 months, 14 days ago)

As far as I’m aware it doesn’t really matter. Just choose either. As they said I say you should start with just one gram but if you’re really feeling confident then maybe 1.5 or 2 grams, but you’ll see most of the benefits by starting with just 1 or 1.5 grams and then building up later on.

As the other posters have said, wait 2 weeks in between doses. This is because tolerance makes a difference, if you do them one night and then the night after, the second time the experience is going to be wayyyy less prominent. That’s why waiting 2 weeks in between doses is best. At very very least 1 week but much preferably 2 weeks if you want the full effects and experience the second time round.

Have fun, they’re amazing things they really are. For the reasons you’re taking them, if you want my advice I’d recommend doing your first dose late at night in your bed, alone. Make sure you have headphones for music, it’s absolutely vital. There’s loads of different stuff out there, but on my first trip I listened to the full album “Magical Mystery Tour” by the Beatles and I find it really sets the tone and makes it an interesting experience and it was perfect for me, but you do you it’s all your choice, that was only what I did and it was amazing for me. (Also if you do listen to MMT then feel free to skip “Blue Jay Way”, it can be pretty freaky and it personally freaked me out a little but the rest of the album does the opposite).

In terms of music you could also listen to one of those hour-long videos on YouTube with psychedelic-spiritual music too. I’ve personally not done it before though.

And in terms of consuming I’d recommend you eat them (whether in a sandwich or straight) instead of making a tea and drinking it or using “lemon tek”. Eating them rather than drinking them comes on slower and more gently which I think is better for a first timer as it makes it a bit less intimidating and scary.

All of this advice is just my perspective by the way, others might feel differently.

You’ll love it though, trust me. Just go in with confidence. If you have a bad trip, then that’s the trip that you needed so don’t stress out about that, and remember that it doesn’t last forever and you will always come out of it all okay and sober. More likely than not though, you’ll find it eye opening and exciting.


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“Everything has a life, it has its own life and is simply beautiful. Life now feels like a journey taking us into something so much bigger than ourselves. I’m in love with the world and its contents, I finally understand all of the people who love this and live for this. It’s so much more than just hallucinations for me, it’s an emotional and psychological journey. This is truly the most beautiful experience I’ve ever had.”

28th of September, 2023


"Pools of sorrow, waves of joy are drifting through my opened mind, possessing and caressing me,
Limitless undying love which shines around me like a million suns it calls me on and on, across the universe…”

-John Lennon

Edited by Mr. Toxic Waste (04/12/24 08:52 AM)

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Re: First time advice [Re: Mr. Toxic Waste]
    #28734963 - 04/12/24 09:57 AM (2 months, 13 days ago)

Thank you so much for your reply I’m really grateful for your advice- I will do everything that you have said, is it definitely better to listen to music then? How did you come to decide what the right thing to listen to would be? Thanks again for the great message, I’ll make sure to do things as you’ve said and yes I have heard that a bad trip is ultimately beneficial for you so I was expecting it- although not for a while now as I will start small

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Re: First time advice [Re: cutepeanut]
    #28734998 - 04/12/24 10:41 AM (2 months, 13 days ago)

I guess it’s all subjective, but I much rather music and most people would probably agree. The only reason why I chose Magical Mystery Tour is because it’s pretty famous for being a classic example of a 60s psychedelic album. I also was a big fan of the Beatles and already knew their stuff, but I can tell you after my first trip it completely changed my perspective on that album.

I just like music because it makes it so enjoyable. Different people trip for different reasons, and have different ways they like their trips to feel, but I personally trip because I love it and I love psychedelia and the way the world changes. Tripping feels more like you transcend into an alternate reality where everything is different, perfect and beautiful rather than the world changing. It’s like you travel into a whole new world of beauty. That’s why I trip and like it so much and because of that I like listening to more upbeat, joyful psychedelic music over the really strange, slow and eerie type of psychedelic music which is why that album is perfect for me. I guess it has just given me a really positive light on mushrooms and whenever I hear a track from the album it’s like I’m tripping again ahaha.

But yes, music intensified the experience A LOT. Recently I’ve been trying to organise and structure a trip playlist for myself and everything is structured in different stages. If you’d like I could share the track list with you. But it’s your choice what to listen to, it’s just that if you don’t have a clue then you can be sure that Magical Mystery Tour will get you where you want to be so take that advice if you want it. That’s just my opinion, I’ve not ever seen anyone else mention the album for tripping on the shroomery though strangely.

Also, you’re very welcome for the advice!! That’s kinda what the shroomery is for and you’ll find that giving advice is something people here love to do. I’m not incredibly old here, I only joined last year in July and my first trip was 28th of September last year so I’m relatively new to this whole thing. But if you want my advice I can definitely give it, but trust me I’m no genius and there are people here who know wayyyy more than me. And I admire you for being so respectful, it’s nice to see

Sorry for writing so much, I just like to be clear in what I'm saying so my posts are often very long


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“Everything has a life, it has its own life and is simply beautiful. Life now feels like a journey taking us into something so much bigger than ourselves. I’m in love with the world and its contents, I finally understand all of the people who love this and live for this. It’s so much more than just hallucinations for me, it’s an emotional and psychological journey. This is truly the most beautiful experience I’ve ever had.”

28th of September, 2023


"Pools of sorrow, waves of joy are drifting through my opened mind, possessing and caressing me,
Limitless undying love which shines around me like a million suns it calls me on and on, across the universe…”

-John Lennon

Edited by Mr. Toxic Waste (04/12/24 10:50 AM)

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Re: First time advice [Re: Mr. Toxic Waste]
    #28735021 - 04/12/24 10:59 AM (2 months, 13 days ago)

Maybe just have some web links or playlists ready for different music or videos. Improvise and either turn it off or raise the volume or do what you want in the moment.

Shrooms are not like other drugs or alcohol where you are just intoxicated and then you sober up. It could cause temporary insanity or uncontrolled thoughts or body movements. Reality can melt. But you will be fine. It is part of the journey. Just relax and surrender. Best wishes. :smile:

Edited by Soul Flight (04/13/24 11:14 AM)

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Re: First time advice [Re: Mr. Toxic Waste]
    #28735803 - 04/13/24 01:31 AM (2 months, 13 days ago)

Thank you again for the response- I’ll have a think about what music might be good to listen to, I’m also a big lover of the Beatles so will give them serious consideration. And yes please I would love to see the tracklist, the idea of how you intentionally structure it sounds very interesting, and don’t be sorry for the long response! I enjoy reading and getting as much advice and insight as I can is so helpful so I’m really appreciative

And thank you too soul flight I’ll have a look at some playlists too to see if anything resonates with me

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Re: First time advice [Re: cutepeanut]
    #28736065 - 04/13/24 09:28 AM (2 months, 13 days ago)

The playlist I made is one hour and 59 minutes (2 hours) long. Start listening roughly 5 minutes after you finish ingesting the mushrooms. And remember this is only my take and what is perfect for me, so nobody come here and say it sounds like a load of BS. I made this for me but I’m willing to share it because well you asked for it I guess ahaha. I made it by deciding on a bunch of songs, and creating 4 segments. I chose which songs would work best in the 1st, then the 2nd etc. I then re ordered the songs in each segment so they kind of gradually go into eachother. The feel of the music changes every segment.

Segment 1:

Magical Mystery Tour (song) - The Beatles
With a Little help from My Friends - The Beatles
Life on Mars? - David Bowie
No surprises - Radiohead
In Another Land - The Rolling Stones
Ob-La-Di Ob-La-Da - The Beatles
Penny Lane - The Beatles


Segment 2:

Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds - The Beatles
Eleanor Rigby - The Beatles
Dear Prudence - The Beatles
The Lantern - The Rolling Stones
2000 light years from home - The Rolling Stones
Within you without you - The Beatles
A Day in the Life - The Beatles

Segment 3:

The Fool on the hill - The Beatles
She’s a Rainbow - The Rolling Stones
Hello, Goodbye - The Beatles
Blue Jay Way - The Beatles
Your Mother Should Know - The Beatles
Strawberry Fields Forever - The Beatles
Glass Onion - The Beatles
Across the Universe - The Beatles
She said she said - The Beatles

Segment 4:

I am the Walrus - The Beatles
Space Oddity - David Bowie
As the world falls down - David Bowie
Flying - The Beatles
Dandelion seeds - July
Tomorrow never knows - The Beatles
Rosemary - Grateful dead
Because - The Beatles


There you go! If you do make it a playlist and choose to listen to it, don’t feel like you need to listen to all of it or anything, just do what you want basically. Have lots of fun!! (Yes I know it’s mostly Beatles)


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“Everything has a life, it has its own life and is simply beautiful. Life now feels like a journey taking us into something so much bigger than ourselves. I’m in love with the world and its contents, I finally understand all of the people who love this and live for this. It’s so much more than just hallucinations for me, it’s an emotional and psychological journey. This is truly the most beautiful experience I’ve ever had.”

28th of September, 2023


"Pools of sorrow, waves of joy are drifting through my opened mind, possessing and caressing me,
Limitless undying love which shines around me like a million suns it calls me on and on, across the universe…”

-John Lennon

Edited by Mr. Toxic Waste (04/13/24 06:07 PM)

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Re: First time advice [Re: cutepeanut]
    #28736180 - 04/13/24 11:15 AM (2 months, 12 days ago)

You can also listen to guided meditations on youtube or spa music or techno music or Allan Watts or Terrance McKenna set to music. Maybe meditation sounds or music. Good luck.

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