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OfflineRedo
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The Patriot Act
    #2872933 - 07/09/04 03:03 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Since many of you think this is the worst thing ever to happen in our country, I would like to know.

How has the Patriot Act effected you personally? What freedoms are you denied now that it is place? Because nothing is different from my end, maybe im blind though.


Edited by Redo (07/09/04 03:25 PM)


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Re: The Patriot Act [Re: Redo]
    #2872969 - 07/09/04 03:12 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Why would it have to affect you personally?

Isn't the fact that it tramples on your rights enough?


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Re: The Patriot Act [Re: Redo]
    #2872977 - 07/09/04 03:14 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

what if it affects your neighbor?


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Re: The Patriot Act [Re: Innvertigo]
    #2872987 - 07/09/04 03:16 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Id like to know then, out everybody on this board, it surely must effect somebody with how violating it is.


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Re: The Patriot Act [Re: Redo]
    #2873007 - 07/09/04 03:18 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

If it has personally affected anyone on this board...they would not be allowed to TELL us that it has affected them or they'll go straight to jail (do not pass Go, do not collect $200) :smirk:


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Driving you mad.


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Re: The Patriot Act [Re: Redo]
    #2873014 - 07/09/04 03:19 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

It has the potential to affect everyone. Why that isn't enough for you is a mystery to me. Or are you saying you don't think the potential is there?


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Re: The Patriot Act [Re: trendal]
    #2873015 - 07/09/04 03:19 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

  So its a big conspiracy then? :-p, If it effects somebody, they never are heard from again!!! :smile:


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Re: The Patriot Act [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2873024 - 07/09/04 03:22 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

luvdemshrooms said:
It has the potential to affect everyone. Why that isn't enough for you is a mystery to me. Or are you saying you don't think the potential is there?




It effects terrorists, and maybe an innocent or two get investegated, thats all the potential I see.


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Re: The Patriot Act [Re: Redo]
    #2873034 - 07/09/04 03:24 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

It violates my right to live free from governmental intrusion. It hasn't affected me but what if someone decided to tell the wrong people i'm a terrorist sympathizer?

I really don't care if it affects me personally directly. If it affects an American citizen then it indirectly affects me because I will now fear my government that much more.

I had to give up personal iinformation in order to by a fucking boat, why?


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Re: The Patriot Act [Re: Redo]
    #2873035 - 07/09/04 03:25 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Perhaps then, this country isn't the place for you.

Frankly, your take on this stuns me.


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Re: The Patriot Act [Re: Innvertigo]
    #2873037 - 07/09/04 03:26 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Innvertigo said:
I had to give up personal iinformation in order to by a fucking boat, why?




You have to do that with a car too


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Re: The Patriot Act [Re: Innvertigo]
    #2873038 - 07/09/04 03:26 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

...in order to by a fucking boat

A boat specifically designed for orgies?  :cool:


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Re: The Patriot Act [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2873043 - 07/09/04 03:27 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

luvdemshrooms said:
Perhaps then, this country isn't the place for you.

Frankly, your take on this stuns me.




Why isnt this the place for me?? Im defending the patriot act, it seems to be one more reason why im fit here.

And why does it stun you?


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Re: The Patriot Act [Re: Innvertigo]
    #2873046 - 07/09/04 03:28 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

I had to give up personal iinformation in order to by a fucking boat, why?



The same info you give up to buy a house, car, get a credit card or secure a loan?

Or different info? Please elaborate.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers


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Re: The Patriot Act [Re: Redo]
    #2873053 - 07/09/04 03:29 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

And why does it stun you?



Because anything that tramples our rights is contemptable.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers


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Re: The Patriot Act [Re: Swami]
    #2873058 - 07/09/04 03:30 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

A boat specifically designed for orgies?




I'll let you know this weekend :thumbup:


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Re: The Patriot Act [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2873060 - 07/09/04 03:31 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

What rights is it trampling? I fail to see any violations


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Re: The Patriot Act [Re: Innvertigo]
    #2873062 - 07/09/04 03:31 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Innvertigo said:
Quote:

A boat specifically designed for orgies?




I'll let you know this weekend :thumbup:



I thought this weekend just you and I were going out on your boat?


Hey! Wait a minute!

:blush:


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Re: The Patriot Act [Re: Redo]
    #2873064 - 07/09/04 03:32 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

*sigh*


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Re: The Patriot Act [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2873076 - 07/09/04 03:35 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Or different info? Please elaborate.




I'ts different because she told be the form was new since the patriot act came out. I tried to call my loan officer a couple minutes ago but she was out. I'll find out the specifics, she wasn't happy about asking people to fill it out.

i'll get more details.


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