Home | Community | Message Board

MagicBag Grow Bags
This site includes paid links. Please support our sponsors.


Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Shop: Kraken Kratom Kratom Capsules for Sale   North Spore North Spore Mushroom Grow Kits & Cultivation Supplies   Myyco.com Golden Teacher Liquid Culture For Sale   Original Sensible Seeds Bulk Cannabis Seeds   Unfolding Nature Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order   Left Coast Kratom Buy Kratom Extract   OlympusMyco.com Olympus Myco Bulk Substrate   PhytoExtractum Buy Bali Kratom Powder

Jump to first unread post Pages: 1 | 2 | 3  [ show all ]
InvisibleSwami
Eggshell Walker

Registered: 01/18/00
Posts: 15,413
Loc: In the hen house
Whos' scarier - Our Government or Terrorists?
    #2872814 - 07/09/04 12:35 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

WhiteRasta on Feds over States' rights on MMJ: "Well GEEDUB you must be proud! more quadraplegics will be handcuffed to their beds during raids on tiny gardens.When your bitch Tom Ridge gets up and tells us of our imminent danger from terror I did not realize that meant the cerbral palsy kid in the wheel chair.Or the disabled vetreran who had the balls to go to the war you dodged. "

To date, the only one sticking his hand in my pocket to forcibly extract large amounts of income is the Fed.

Terrorists have never hassled me on the streets or busted my buddies for pot.

Terrorists have not totally misappropriated my sacred Social Security fund to illegally use for false purposes, thus greatly diminishing my chance for a secure retirement.

Terrorists did not send my high school & college buddies to die in Viet Nam against their will.

Terrorists are not stamping on the state's rights to deal with issues as they see fit.

No terrorist has yet performed an illegal search at the airport or on the highway.

Terrorists have not seized peoples homes and yachts for a single joint.

Terrorists have not handcuffed and arrested sick people in California and Oregon.

Terrorists are not reading my e-mail, tapping my phone and looking over my shoulder to see what books I check out of the public library.

To those with reading comprehension disability, I certainly do NOT approve of or support any terrorist or terrorist act. Only making the point that my government is much more intrusive and scary to me personally (my condolences to friends and families of 9/11 victims and soldiers killed or wounded) than some martyr-bound Muslim.


--------------------



The proof is in the pudding.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisibleluvdemshrooms
Two inch dick..but it spins!?
 User Gallery


Registered: 11/29/01
Posts: 34,247
Loc: Lost In Space
Re: Whos' scarier - Our Government or Terrorists? [Re: Swami]
    #2872840 - 07/09/04 12:40 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Whos' scarier?

Nut job conspiracy wackos.


--------------------
You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineRedo
CTA

Registered: 04/13/04
Posts: 1,296
Last seen: 18 years, 9 months
Re: Whos' scarier - Our Government or Terrorists? [Re: Swami]
    #2872850 - 07/09/04 12:43 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Swami said:
To date, the only one sticking his hand in my pocket to forcibly extract large amounts of income is the Fed.




Its called taxes, and republicans like to lower them.

Quote:

Swami said:

Terrorists have never hassled me on the streets or busted my buddies for pot.




Because they deal in heroin, and if they hassle you, they blow themselves up in your face.
Quote:

Swami said:

Terrorists have not totally misappropriated my sacred Social Security fund to illegally use for false purposes, thus greatly diminishing my chance for a secure retirement.




Another liberal plan
Quote:

Swami said:

Terrorists did not send my high school & college buddies to die in Viet Nam against their will.




War sucks, same with life.

Quote:

Swami said:
Terrorists are not stamping on the state's rights to deal with issues as they see fit.




They want complete control over every apsect of everybodies lives, no freedoms or elections.

Quote:

Swami said:
No terrorist has yet performed an illegal search at the airport or on the highway.




Too busy trying to get explosives through.

Quote:

Swami said:
Terrorists have not seized peoples homes and yachts for a single joint.




They blow up the house because somebody is living there.

Quote:

Swami said:
Terrorists have not handcuffed and arrested sick people in California and Oregon.




no, they only make people deathly ill from their attacks.

Quote:

Swami said:
Terrorists are not reading my e-mail, tapping my phone and looking over my shoulder to see what books I check out of the public library.




How do you know?

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleSwami
Eggshell Walker

Registered: 01/18/00
Posts: 15,413
Loc: In the hen house
Re: Whos' scarier - Our Government or Terrorists? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2872854 - 07/09/04 12:44 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

1. No conspiracy was mentioned. Are you unable to stay on track or are you fixated?

2. Please explain how NJCWs directly affect your health and well-being.

Thank you.


--------------------



The proof is in the pudding.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineRedo
CTA

Registered: 04/13/04
Posts: 1,296
Last seen: 18 years, 9 months
Re: Whos' scarier - Our Government or Terrorists? [Re: Swami]
    #2872872 - 07/09/04 12:48 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)


I mentioned a conspiracy, only because its easy to fight radical propaganda with a radical theory.

NJCWs?

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Anonymous

Re: Whos' scarier - Our Government or Terrorists? [Re: Swami]
    #2872914 - 07/09/04 12:58 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Terrorists have never interefered with my life, while government has proven it can and will.

Better to die free than live in chains.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineRedo
CTA

Registered: 04/13/04
Posts: 1,296
Last seen: 18 years, 9 months
Re: Whos' scarier - Our Government or Terrorists? [Re: ]
    #2872916 - 07/09/04 12:59 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Max Headroom said:
Terrorists have never interefered with my life, while government has proven it can and will.

Better to die free than live in chains.




I guess nothing will ever happen to you either? It only happens to others, your invincible.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisibleluvdemshrooms
Two inch dick..but it spins!?
 User Gallery


Registered: 11/29/01
Posts: 34,247
Loc: Lost In Space
Re: Whos' scarier - Our Government or Terrorists? [Re: Swami]
    #2872919 - 07/09/04 01:00 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

To date, the only one sticking his hand in my pocket to forcibly extract large amounts of income is the Fed.
True, but most programs paid for with those dollars are blatantly unconstitutional.



Terrorists have never hassled me on the streets or busted my buddies for pot.
Nope. They haven't. But don't most terrorists come from countries where you can be put to death or imprisoned for years?



Terrorists have not totally misappropriated my sacred Social Security fund to illegally use for false purposes, thus greatly diminishing my chance for a secure retirement.
First, you should have been smart enough not to put your faith in a Ponzi scheme. Second, how does SS mesh with the 10th? Third, ho9w many terrorists come from countries that have SS?



Terrorists did not send my high school & college buddies to die in Viet Nam against their will.
No, instead they deliberately blow up women and children. That's much better.



Terrorists are not stamping on the state's rights to deal with issues as they see fit.
True. They'd just like to see everyone under Islamic law. What of states rights then?



No terrorist has yet performed an illegal search at the airport or on the highway.
Unless you want to count ausing people to have to search through the wreckage of the planes they've caused to crash and the body parts of those they blow up. Much better again



Terrorists have not seized peoples homes and yachts for a single joint.
See above



Terrorists have not handcuffed and arrested sick people in California and Oregon.
Can't argue with that I suppose.



Terrorists are not reading my e-mail, tapping my phone and looking over my shoulder to see what books I check out of the public library.
True again. But at least we have libraries with multiplebooks to choose from and with no thought police weeding out what you can and can't read


--------------------
You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisibleluvdemshrooms
Two inch dick..but it spins!?
 User Gallery


Registered: 11/29/01
Posts: 34,247
Loc: Lost In Space
Re: Whos' scarier - Our Government or Terrorists? [Re: Swami]
    #2872926 - 07/09/04 01:02 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Swami said:
1. No conspiracy was mentioned. Are you unable to stay on track or are you fixated?

2. Please explain how NJCWs directly affect your health and well-being.

Thank you.



Patience there lil' fella, my typing skills suck.

I'm on track. I merely find people who fixate on every imagined conspiracy frightening. And silly.


--------------------
You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisibleluvdemshrooms
Two inch dick..but it spins!?
 User Gallery


Registered: 11/29/01
Posts: 34,247
Loc: Lost In Space
Re: Whos' scarier - Our Government or Terrorists? [Re: Redo]
    #2872936 - 07/09/04 01:04 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Its called taxes, and republicans like to lower them.




Too bad they don't lower spending as well.

I guess as long as people can be bought, that's not likely to happen.


--------------------
You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlineld50negative1
lethal dosage

Registered: 07/01/04
Posts: 821
Last seen: 16 years, 9 months
Re: Whos' scarier - Our Government or Terrorists? [Re: Swami]
    #2872938 - 07/09/04 01:05 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

If you have such a problem just goto france with all the other american haters

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Anonymous

Re: Whos' scarier - Our Government or Terrorists? [Re: Redo]
    #2872940 - 07/09/04 01:06 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

It only happens to others, your invincible.

My invincible what? If you mean my invincible fish armor, yes. 100% terrorist proof, a full-body suit of rotten trout scares off anything.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Anonymous

Re: Whos' scarier - Our Government or Terrorists? [Re: ld50negative1]
    #2872948 - 07/09/04 01:07 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Once again, for the 28309th time in this forum, disapproval of your government does not equal hating your country of residence. Kthx.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineRedo
CTA

Registered: 04/13/04
Posts: 1,296
Last seen: 18 years, 9 months
Re: Whos' scarier - Our Government or Terrorists? [Re: ]
    #2872959 - 07/09/04 01:09 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Max Headroom said:
Once again, for the 28309th time in this forum, disapproval of your government does not equal hating your country of residence. Kthx.




I guess the government should take your chains off, because I never said anything about the country, just the government.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisibleluvdemshrooms
Two inch dick..but it spins!?
 User Gallery


Registered: 11/29/01
Posts: 34,247
Loc: Lost In Space
Re: Whos' scarier - Our Government or Terrorists? [Re: ]
    #2872962 - 07/09/04 01:10 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

I think you'll find this more accurate.

Once again, for the 28309th time in this forum, disapproval of your government does not always equal hating your country of residence.


--------------------
You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

Edited by luvdemshrooms (07/09/04 01:11 PM)

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlineld50negative1
lethal dosage

Registered: 07/01/04
Posts: 821
Last seen: 16 years, 9 months
Re: Whos' scarier - Our Government or Terrorists? [Re: ]
    #2872964 - 07/09/04 01:11 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

I think if the government was as bad as people seem to want it to look then it would probably directly effect your comfort of living within the country the government controls

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Anonymous

Re: Whos' scarier - Our Government or Terrorists? [Re: Redo]
    #2872965 - 07/09/04 01:11 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

I was not replying to you.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineRedo
CTA

Registered: 04/13/04
Posts: 1,296
Last seen: 18 years, 9 months
Re: Whos' scarier - Our Government or Terrorists? [Re: ]
    #2872967 - 07/09/04 01:12 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

I need to learn how to read.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleSwami
Eggshell Walker

Registered: 01/18/00
Posts: 15,413
Loc: In the hen house
Re: Whos' scarier - Our Government or Terrorists? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2872972 - 07/09/04 01:13 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

>Terrorists have not handcuffed and arrested sick people in California and Oregon.
>>Can't argue with that I suppose.

Come on luvdem, find a way. I expect more from you.  :cool:


--------------------



The proof is in the pudding.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleSwami
Eggshell Walker

Registered: 01/18/00
Posts: 15,413
Loc: In the hen house
Re: Whos' scarier - Our Government or Terrorists? [Re: ld50negative1]
    #2872989 - 07/09/04 01:16 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

If you have such a problem just goto france with all the other american haters...

Unlike you, I put my life on the line for my country and have earned the right to my opinion. I think I'll stay.


--------------------



The proof is in the pudding.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisibleluvdemshrooms
Two inch dick..but it spins!?
 User Gallery


Registered: 11/29/01
Posts: 34,247
Loc: Lost In Space
Re: Whos' scarier - Our Government or Terrorists? [Re: Swami]
    #2872995 - 07/09/04 01:17 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Sorry, but even a defective Swami is occasionally correct.


--------------------
You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Anonymous

Re: Whos' scarier - Our Government or Terrorists? [Re: ld50negative1]
    #2873000 - 07/09/04 01:17 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

That's certainly true. It's simply a matter of how much people will tolerate before it affects them negatively. Most people think, "well I don't have anything to worry about since I'm a law-abiding citizen. Only criminals should care." Other people, like myself, feel that the Patriot Act is blatantly unconstitutional and a precedent for future infringement of rights in the name of fighting terrorism.

Funny how even though "The Terrorists Hate Our Freedom?", the government is the only group slowly taking it away.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineRedo
CTA

Registered: 04/13/04
Posts: 1,296
Last seen: 18 years, 9 months
Re: Whos' scarier - Our Government or Terrorists? [Re: Swami]
    #2873006 - 07/09/04 01:18 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Swami said:
Unlike you, I put my life on the line for my country and have earned the right to my opinion. I think I'll stay.




I havent, but I still have a right to my opinion.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinepsikooz
Stranger
Registered: 07/19/03
Posts: 1,023
Loc: Los Angeles
Last seen: 13 years, 4 months
Re: Whos' scarier - Our Government or Terrorists? [Re: ]
    #2873018 - 07/09/04 01:20 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Our government is scary.

We have presidents that cheat.
Drug Addict politicians.
The patriot act?
Roswell New Mexico? Weather balloon? i dont think so.... :wink: :p


but yes, i believe the true terrorists are the american governemtn. They have succeeded in forcing almost every nation into adopting capitalism, and becoming wage laboring societies. We are doing it with iraq now, and it will be successfull, its horrible. Our government seems to think that everyone else is wrong, and we are right, so we impose our rules and regulations on everyone. IF they dont accept them, we consider them a threat, or terrorists.

WE are dealing with business men. The heart of true bussiness is to profit at any cost, that is what our government its doing. We will kill hundreds of innocent people, if it means gaining more control and power over millions. ITs all a game of numbers,  and we are right in the middle of it.

The most we can do now is to recognize who the real terrorists are, and not to fall into the trap that has been layed out in front of you, unless you already have...

peace and love.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisibleluvdemshrooms
Two inch dick..but it spins!?
 User Gallery


Registered: 11/29/01
Posts: 34,247
Loc: Lost In Space
Re: Whos' scarier - Our Government or Terrorists? [Re: psikooz]
    #2873030 - 07/09/04 01:23 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Until now, I've only seen one person here use the term "drug addict" as a slam.

Please tell me you're not going to follow that weasel's example. This is first and formost a drug site. Why mock ANYONE for using drugs?

:tongue:


--------------------
You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleXlea321
Stranger
Registered: 02/25/01
Posts: 9,134
Re: Whos' scarier - Our Government or Terrorists? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2888134 - 07/14/04 12:06 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Until now, I've only seen one person here use the term "drug addict" as a slam

Is a statement of fact a "slam"?

This is first and formost a drug site. Why mock ANYONE for using drugs?

Classic luvdemlies dishonesty. Don't try and confuse taking drugs with being a drug addict. Addicts are a small percentage of drug users. The fact that you were unable to handle your high and ended up a crackhead doesn't mean the rest of us can't use drugs sensibly.


--------------------
Don't worry, B. Caapi

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisibleluvdemshrooms
Two inch dick..but it spins!?
 User Gallery


Registered: 11/29/01
Posts: 34,247
Loc: Lost In Space
Re: Whos' scarier - Our Government or Terrorists? [Re: Xlea321]
    #2888570 - 07/14/04 03:55 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

In your case it was an attempted slam, since you're not clever enough to hit the target.


Sorry I didn't make this simple enough for you to understand PinochhiAl. A great many regular drug users become addicted.

I got over my addition to freebasing and haven't partook since 1989. If only you could get over being a liar.


--------------------
You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleXlea321
Stranger
Registered: 02/25/01
Posts: 9,134
Re: Whos' scarier - Our Government or Terrorists? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2889090 - 07/14/04 10:17 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

In your case it was an attempted

What are you talking about? You're rambling again.


A great many regular drug users become addicted

What do you mean by "regular" and of which "drugs"? Certainly the vast bulk of people who take drugs do not end up hopeless crackheads and it is a blatant lie to say so. But then again, coming from you, what else can we expect?

If only you could get over being a liar.

What "lie" are you referring to?


--------------------
Don't worry, B. Caapi

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Anonymous

Re: Whos' scarier - Our Government or Terrorists? [Re: Xlea321]
    #2889108 - 07/14/04 10:22 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Certainly the vast bulk of people who take drugs do not end up hopeless crackheads and it is a blatant lie to say so.

luvdemshrooms said that "many" drug users become addicts. he didn't say anything about the "vast bulk" or hopeless crackheads.

what he said is not a "blatant lie", but true. even if we make an exception for the hordes of people addicted to alcohol and nicotine, it is still true that many other drug users go on to become addicts.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleXlea321
Stranger
Registered: 02/25/01
Posts: 9,134
Re: Whos' scarier - Our Government or Terrorists? [Re: ]
    #2889118 - 07/14/04 10:24 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

uvdemshrooms said that "many" drug users become addicts. he didn't say anything about the "vast bulk"

Actually he said "a great many".

My initial point was that the number of addicts is a small percentage of total drug users. Are you saying this is wrong?

And which "drugs" are you referring to? Are you saying a great many people who use mushrooms become addicted to them?


--------------------
Don't worry, B. Caapi

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Anonymous

Re: Whos' scarier - Our Government or Terrorists? [Re: Xlea321]
    #2889127 - 07/14/04 10:29 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

and it seems that LDS wasn't refuting that claim, only saying that at even a very small, percentage, it is still a lot. he didn't say anything about ratios, proportions, percentages, fractions, or anything of the sort. only a raw (and subjective) quantity.

i'm having some trouble figuring out what you guys are arguing about this time. LDS seems to be saying that mocking or judging someone for their addiction to drugs isn't right. what i can't figure out is exactly why you've chosen to attack that position or what your point actually is here.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleXlea321
Stranger
Registered: 02/25/01
Posts: 9,134
Re: Whos' scarier - Our Government or Terrorists? [Re: ]
    #2889157 - 07/14/04 10:40 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

and it seems that LDS wasn't refuting that claim, only saying that at even a very small, percentage

I'm not sure how you have reached this conclusion. He said nothing about a "very small percentage". He said a "great many drug users become addicts" in response to my point that most drug users are not addicts. If by "a great many" you wish to believe he meant a "very small percentage" then ok. That's not what I would generally understand "a great many" to mean.

I assume you agree that most people who use drugs do not become drug addicts?

Incidentally what "drugs" are you referring to? Certainly the number of people who become "addicted" to mushrooms is nothing like a "great many" of mushroom users.

LDS seems to be saying that mocking or judging someone for their addiction to drugs isn't right.

Who was mocking anyone for their addiction to drugs?

what your point actually is here

That drug use and drug addiction are not the same thing.


--------------------
Don't worry, B. Caapi

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleShroomismM
Space Travellin
Male User Gallery
Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 02/13/00
Posts: 66,015
Loc: 9th Dimension Flag
Re: Whos' scarier - Our Government or Terrorists? [Re: Swami]
    #2889389 - 07/14/04 11:55 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

I've never met, been intimidated by, or had a terrorist interfere with my life thus far.

So far, the government has intimidated me, interfered with my life, and done all these things times 100. So, the government is the bigger threat to me than the terrorists (if they even exist), as they can and do effect my life, on a daily basis. In fact, I think I will become a terrorist, because they seem to dislike my government as much as I do.


--------------------

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Anonymous

Re: Whos' scarier - Our Government or Terrorists? [Re: Xlea321]
    #2889520 - 07/14/04 12:25 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

I'm not sure how you have reached this conclusion. He said nothing about a "very small percentage". He said a "great many drug users become addicts" in response to my point that most drug users are not addicts. If by "a great many" you wish to believe he meant a "very small percentage" then ok. That's not what I would generally understand "a great many" to mean.

two true statements:

1. a great many people develop cancer each year.

2. a very small portion of the total population develops cancer each year.


I assume you agree that most people who use drugs do not become drug addicts?


and you are correct. neither i, nor luvdemshrooms said anything to the contrary.

Who was mocking anyone for their addiction to drugs?

i'm not exactly sure, but this whole thing got started when LDS said it wasn't right to do it.

That drug use and drug addiction are not the same thing.

calm down then. no one is claiming otherwise. you misinterpreted.

if i said...

"hey... it's not cool to make fun of people with down's syndrom. you know... there are many people out there afflicted with the disease",

and someone read that and responded with an (emotional, knee-jerk reaction of...), "Certainly the vast bulk of people are not hopelessly retarded and it is a blatant lie to say so. But then again, coming from you, what else can we expect?"

wouldn't you say that would be rather silly?

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleXlea321
Stranger
Registered: 02/25/01
Posts: 9,134
Re: Whos' scarier - Our Government or Terrorists? [Re: ]
    #2889596 - 07/14/04 12:39 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

You're getting yourself tied in knots over this mush. It really isn't all that complicated.

i'm not exactly sure, but this whole thing got started when LDS said it wasn't right to do it.

No, this whole thing started when psikooz made a "leftist" style post that obviously set luvs panties a-twisting. So he picked three completely irrelevant words out of the post, ignored the rest and launched a completly off-topic, piss-poor, ludicrous attempted slam on psikooz for "making fun of drug addicts at a drug board".

1. Psikooz wasn't making fun of anyone. No-one with even half a brain cell could read his post and come to the conclusion he was "mocking people for taking drugs". That wasn't the point of his post at all.
2. The last I heard this was a mushroom board, not a "drug" board and mushrooms arn't addictive so the whole basis of luvs "point" was garbage anyway.

Now is there a point you are trying to make other than you don't like me very much?  :smile:


--------------------
Don't worry, B. Caapi

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Anonymous

Re: Whos' scarier - Our Government or Terrorists? [Re: Xlea321]
    #2889690 - 07/14/04 12:55 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

"So he picked three completely irrelevant words out of the post, ignored the rest and launched a completly off-topic..."

i'll give you that much. it doesn't change the fact that your little tirade against what he said was entirely misdirected.

as far as picking out irrelevent words, igoring the rest, and launching completey off topic, piss poor, ludicrous attempts at... ah. well. i won't even go there.

if you and luvdemshrooms want to nitpick over stupid shit, go right ahead. i should have learned long ago not to get in the middle of you two.

edit: "two".

Edited by mushmaster (07/14/04 01:00 PM)

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisibleluvdemshrooms
Two inch dick..but it spins!?
 User Gallery


Registered: 11/29/01
Posts: 34,247
Loc: Lost In Space
Re: Whos' scarier - Our Government or Terrorists? [Re: Xlea321]
    #2890549 - 07/14/04 04:06 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

In your case it was an attempted

What are you talking about? You're rambling again.



Right.  :rotfl:


Quote:

A great many regular drug users become addicted

What do you mean by "regular" and of which "drugs"? Certainly the vast bulk of people who take drugs do not end up hopeless crackheads and it is a blatant lie to say so.



I guess it's a good thing I didn't say so. Otherwise I'd have lied.


Quote:

  But then again, coming from you, what else can we expect?



Same thing you'll always get. The unvarnished truth. for you see PinochhiAL, I don't feel the need to lie. It's a shame you do. Since you obviously don't get it, lying is a character flaw. Strange that doesn't bother you.


Quote:

If only you could get over being a liar.

What "lie" are you referring to?



I've posted some, add this to the list...
it is a blatant lie to say so.

Dishonesty isn't something to be proud of PinochhiAL, give it up.


--------------------
You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisibleluvdemshrooms
Two inch dick..but it spins!?
 User Gallery


Registered: 11/29/01
Posts: 34,247
Loc: Lost In Space
Re: Whos' scarier - Our Government or Terrorists? [Re: Xlea321]
    #2890576 - 07/14/04 04:11 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

panties a-twisting.


  :rotfl:

What a funny fella. Grow up PinochhiAL. Grow up.


--------------------
You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisibleluvdemshrooms
Two inch dick..but it spins!?
 User Gallery


Registered: 11/29/01
Posts: 34,247
Loc: Lost In Space
Re: Whos' scarier - Our Government or Terrorists? [Re: ]
    #2890606 - 07/14/04 04:18 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

if you and luvdemshrooms want to nitpick over stupid shit, go right ahead. i should have learned long ago not to get in the middle of you two.




I should ignore him as well but I can't let liars go unchallenged.

It's good to see the truth means something to you as well. If only more felt the same.


--------------------
You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineTasty_Smurf_House
Stranger
 User Gallery

Registered: 08/20/03
Posts: 8,657
Loc: Canada
Last seen: 12 years, 10 months
Re: Whos' scarier - Our Government or Terrorists? [Re: Swami]
    #2890928 - 07/14/04 05:58 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

I must say, living in Canada right now, I feel America as a bigger threat to my well being and safety then terrorists.

Something about that statement makes me think it doesn't add up.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblesilversoul7
Chill the FuckOut!
 User Gallery

Registered: 10/10/02
Posts: 27,301
Loc: mndfreeze's puppet army
Re: Whos' scarier - Our Government or Terrorists? [Re: Swami]
    #2890936 - 07/14/04 06:02 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Whos' scarier - Our Government or Terrorists?



Without even reading this thread, I'll say the government. It's only because of the government that the terrorists can control us.


--------------------


"It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong."--Voltaire

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineTasty_Smurf_House
Stranger
 User Gallery

Registered: 08/20/03
Posts: 8,657
Loc: Canada
Last seen: 12 years, 10 months
Re: Whos' scarier - Our Government or Terrorists? [Re: silversoul7]
    #2891006 - 07/14/04 06:26 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

silversoul7 said:
Without even reading this thread, I'll say the government. It's only because of the government that the terrorists can control us.




The government is using the terrorists to control people.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblewhiterasta
Day careobserver
 User Gallery
Registered: 04/09/02
Posts: 1,780
Loc: Oregon
Re: Whos' scarier - Our Government or Terrorists? [Re: Swami]
    #2891024 - 07/14/04 06:33 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

I noticed an eerie silence from the usual apologists on that post.Seems to have struck a nerve.Swami your eloquent and factual comparison of government intrusion as opposed to potential alleged terrorism was some of you best work! I thank and commend you. I also wish to thank and congratulate you on, one having more balls than our CIC and going to Nam, and congratulate you on your return alive!
Keep up the reality checking, we have a number of people fantasizing we are not in deep shit.Your ability with words to cut through to the essence is one I will admire for a long time.I may be able to discern but am limited on my expression. You are clear ,concise , and pull very little of the semantic pissing contest which seems to overtake many of these disscussions.
WR:wexican:


--------------------
To old for this place

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflinePhred
Fred's son
Male

Registered: 10/18/00
Posts: 12,949
Loc: Dominican Republic
Last seen: 9 years, 4 months
Re: Whos' scarier - Our Government or Terrorists? [Re: Swami]
    #2891300 - 07/14/04 08:22 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Who is scarier -- government or terrorists?

That's a no brainer -- government qua "government".

But there are governments and there are governments. I find Islamic fundamentalist terrorists far scarier than the government of Lichtenstein, for exampel.

pinky


--------------------

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinemonoamine
umask 077(nonefor you)

Registered: 09/06/02
Posts: 3,095
Loc: Jacksonville,FL
Last seen: 18 years, 7 months
Re: Whos' scarier - Our Government or Terrorists? [Re: Swami]
    #2891315 - 07/14/04 08:32 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

I've had automatic weapons drawn on me by agents of my government for doing nothing more than being in the company of people who possesed a plant that was deemed illegal,yet I've never even seen a guy with a towell on his head and an AK-47.

The government,hands down.


--------------------
People think that if you just say the word "hallucinations" it explains everything you want it to explain and eventually whatever it is you can't explain will just go away.It's just a word,it doesn't explain anything...
Douglas Adams

Edited by monoamine (07/14/04 08:37 PM)

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Anonymous

Re: Whos' scarier - Our Government or Terrorists? [Re: Swami]
    #2891330 - 07/14/04 08:44 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

government, of course, but that is nothing new.

the state has nearly always been a greater danger than the threats it purportedly exists to defend people from.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinevoice
label me
Registered: 07/02/04
Posts: 7
Loc: AZ
Last seen: 19 years, 10 months
Re: Whos' scarier - Our Government or Terrorists? [Re: ]
    #2891427 - 07/14/04 09:39 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

who's scarier? who has POWER? there is your answer. terrorists are given way to much credit.


--------------------
beliefs are substitutes for knowledge

www.voistradaumus.com

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisiblepB0t
I'm a teapot
Registered: 04/25/03
Posts: 2,556
Re: Whos' scarier - Our Government or Terrorists? *DELETED* [Re: Redo]
    #2891540 - 07/14/04 10:20 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Post deleted by pB0t

Reason for deletion: .


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinevoice
label me
Registered: 07/02/04
Posts: 7
Loc: AZ
Last seen: 19 years, 10 months
Re: Whos' scarier - Our Government or Terrorists? [Re: pB0t]
    #2891721 - 07/14/04 10:58 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

opium production hasn't resumed ... it's increased. it was never completely eradicated. But under the premise that the Taliban had *helped* the effort in the war on drugs, the Bush admin gave them like $43 mil the first few weeks he was in office.


--------------------
beliefs are substitutes for knowledge

www.voistradaumus.com

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblez@z.com
Libertarian
Registered: 10/13/02
Posts: 2,876
Loc: ATL
Re: Whos' scarier - Our Government or Terrorists? [Re: Swami]
    #2891764 - 07/14/04 11:12 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Swami said:
WhiteRasta on Feds over States' rights on MMJ: "Well GEEDUB you must be proud! more quadraplegics will be handcuffed to their beds during raids on tiny gardens.When your bitch Tom Ridge gets up and tells us of our imminent danger from terror I did not realize that meant the cerbral palsy kid in the wheel chair.Or the disabled vetreran who had the balls to go to the war you dodged. "

To date, the only one sticking his hand in my pocket to forcibly extract large amounts of income is the Fed.

Terrorists have never hassled me on the streets or busted my buddies for pot.

Terrorists have not totally misappropriated my sacred Social Security fund to illegally use for false purposes, thus greatly diminishing my chance for a secure retirement.

Terrorists did not send my high school & college buddies to die in Viet Nam against their will.

Terrorists are not stamping on the state's rights to deal with issues as they see fit.

No terrorist has yet performed an illegal search at the airport or on the highway.

Terrorists have not seized peoples homes and yachts for a single joint.

Terrorists have not handcuffed and arrested sick people in California and Oregon.

Terrorists are not reading my e-mail, tapping my phone and looking over my shoulder to see what books I check out of the public library.

To those with reading comprehension disability, I certainly do NOT approve of or support any terrorist or terrorist act. Only making the point that my government is much more intrusive and scary to me personally (my condolences to friends and families of 9/11 victims and soldiers killed or wounded) than some martyr-bound Muslim.



Government is much "scarier". We can at least fight terrorists on a legal front.


--------------------
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." - C.S. Lewis

"I would rather be exposed to the inconveniencies attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblez@z.com
Libertarian
Registered: 10/13/02
Posts: 2,876
Loc: ATL
Re: Whos' scarier - Our Government or Terrorists? [Re: Shroomism]
    #2891797 - 07/14/04 11:20 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Shroomism said:
I've never met, been intimidated by, or had a terrorist interfere with my life thus far.

So far, the government has intimidated me, interfered with my life, and done all these things times 100. So, the government is the bigger threat to me than the terrorists (if they even exist), as they can and do effect my life, on a daily basis. In fact, I think I will become a terrorist, because they seem to dislike my government as much as I do.



The fucking government invaded my home and took my legal cultures. Fuck them. The terrorists are an even worse kind of scum, but we are at least trying to defeat them.


--------------------
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." - C.S. Lewis

"I would rather be exposed to the inconveniencies attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblez@z.com
Libertarian
Registered: 10/13/02
Posts: 2,876
Loc: ATL
Re: Whos' scarier - Our Government or Terrorists? [Re: pB0t]
    #2891815 - 07/14/04 11:29 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

pB0t said:
Actually, the Taliban, the former Al Qaeda friendly government of Afghanistan, completely eradicated the opium farming in Afghanistan. That production has resumed now that the Northern Alliance, backed by the US and others, has booted them out. That's how they get their money. The terrorists who blew up the WTC get their money from oil.

If you want to help the war on terror, shoot up!



That did not happen. A friend of mine died of an overdose of heroin when we attacked afghanistan and the heroin flooded the market. They were still producing opium in a big way.


--------------------
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." - C.S. Lewis

"I would rather be exposed to the inconveniencies attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinemonoamine
umask 077(nonefor you)

Registered: 09/06/02
Posts: 3,095
Loc: Jacksonville,FL
Last seen: 18 years, 7 months
Re: Whos' scarier - Our Government or Terrorists? [Re: z@z.com]
    #2891870 - 07/14/04 11:47 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah,more heroin is coming out of Afganistan than ever before. It dropped for awhile,so South America picked up.So now there is more than ever. (purity is at an all time high)

Al-Qaeda was very anti drug,but the Taliban was not. Don't confuse the two.


--------------------
People think that if you just say the word "hallucinations" it explains everything you want it to explain and eventually whatever it is you can't explain will just go away.It's just a word,it doesn't explain anything...
Douglas Adams

Edited by monoamine (07/14/04 11:50 PM)

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblez@z.com
Libertarian
Registered: 10/13/02
Posts: 2,876
Loc: ATL
Re: Whos' scarier - Our Government or Terrorists? [Re: monoamine]
    #2891880 - 07/14/04 11:52 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Yup. Like I said. It killed a very dear friend.


--------------------
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." - C.S. Lewis

"I would rather be exposed to the inconveniencies attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineTasty_Smurf_House
Stranger
 User Gallery

Registered: 08/20/03
Posts: 8,657
Loc: Canada
Last seen: 12 years, 10 months
Re: Whos' scarier - Our Government or Terrorists? [Re: z@z.com]
    #2891968 - 07/15/04 12:26 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

I think someone was burning a whole shitload of opium poppies somewhere tho. I saw it in my local news paper. It was a while back.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleXlea321
Stranger
Registered: 02/25/01
Posts: 9,134
Re: Whos' scarier - Our Government or Terrorists? [Re: z@z.com]
    #2892935 - 07/15/04 09:42 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Yup. Like I said. It killed a very dear friend.

Not sure there's a direct correlation there. There's any number of factors that might've killed your friend apart from Afghanistans production of poppies.


--------------------
Don't worry, B. Caapi

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Jump to top Pages: 1 | 2 | 3  [ show all ]

Shop: Kraken Kratom Kratom Capsules for Sale   North Spore North Spore Mushroom Grow Kits & Cultivation Supplies   Myyco.com Golden Teacher Liquid Culture For Sale   Original Sensible Seeds Bulk Cannabis Seeds   Unfolding Nature Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order   Left Coast Kratom Buy Kratom Extract   OlympusMyco.com Olympus Myco Bulk Substrate   PhytoExtractum Buy Bali Kratom Powder


Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* Afghanistan & Oil
( 1 2 3 4 all )
Anonymous 5,229 63 04/09/03 09:48 AM
by Xlea321
* The Betrayal of Afghanistan Xochitl 1,928 12 09/24/03 02:18 PM
by JonnyOnTheSpot
* Terrorists look for a path TO peace - but the path IS peace
( 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 all )
spacedragon 9,320 148 06/21/04 06:26 AM
by st0nedphucker
* Afghanistan update
( 1 2 all )
Phred 2,805 21 08/03/04 12:43 PM
by Xlea321
* USA HAS GONE CRAZY - TERRORIST ATACKS!!!!!
( 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 all )
MAIA 14,743 143 09/12/11 11:34 AM
by wood_stones
* AFGHANISTAN (for alex) Anonymous 348 0 11/20/03 08:56 AM
by Anonymous
* How to handle terrorists
( 1 2 3 4 all )
Phred 5,925 63 02/20/04 06:21 PM
by TheOneYouKnow
* The betrayal of Afghanistan Xlea321 695 3 11/03/03 01:21 PM
by Azmodeus

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: Enlil, ballsalsa
3,301 topic views. 1 members, 7 guests and 13 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Show Images Only | Sort by Score | Print Topic ]
Search this thread:

Copyright 1997-2024 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.066 seconds spending 0.032 seconds on 14 queries.