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silversoul7
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Re: Whos' scarier - Our Government or Terrorists? [Re: Swami]
#2890936 - 07/14/04 06:02 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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Whos' scarier - Our Government or Terrorists?
Without even reading this thread, I'll say the government. It's only because of the government that the terrorists can control us.
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Re: Whos' scarier - Our Government or Terrorists? [Re: silversoul7]
#2891006 - 07/14/04 06:26 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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silversoul7 said: Without even reading this thread, I'll say the government. It's only because of the government that the terrorists can control us.
The government is using the terrorists to control people.
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Re: Whos' scarier - Our Government or Terrorists? [Re: Swami]
#2891024 - 07/14/04 06:33 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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I noticed an eerie silence from the usual apologists on that post.Seems to have struck a nerve.Swami your eloquent and factual comparison of government intrusion as opposed to potential alleged terrorism was some of you best work! I thank and commend you. I also wish to thank and congratulate you on, one having more balls than our CIC and going to Nam, and congratulate you on your return alive! Keep up the reality checking, we have a number of people fantasizing we are not in deep shit.Your ability with words to cut through to the essence is one I will admire for a long time.I may be able to discern but am limited on my expression. You are clear ,concise , and pull very little of the semantic pissing contest which seems to overtake many of these disscussions. WR
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Re: Whos' scarier - Our Government or Terrorists? [Re: Swami]
#2891300 - 07/14/04 08:22 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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Who is scarier -- government or terrorists?
That's a no brainer -- government qua "government".
But there are governments and there are governments. I find Islamic fundamentalist terrorists far scarier than the government of Lichtenstein, for exampel.
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Re: Whos' scarier - Our Government or Terrorists? [Re: Swami]
#2891315 - 07/14/04 08:32 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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I've had automatic weapons drawn on me by agents of my government for doing nothing more than being in the company of people who possesed a plant that was deemed illegal,yet I've never even seen a guy with a towell on his head and an AK-47. The government,hands down.
-------------------- People think that if you just say the word "hallucinations" it explains everything you want it to explain and eventually whatever it is you can't explain will just go away.It's just a word,it doesn't explain anything... Douglas Adams
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Re: Whos' scarier - Our Government or Terrorists? [Re: Swami]
#2891330 - 07/14/04 08:44 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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government, of course, but that is nothing new.
the state has nearly always been a greater danger than the threats it purportedly exists to defend people from.
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Re: Whos' scarier - Our Government or Terrorists? [Re: ]
#2891427 - 07/14/04 09:39 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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who's scarier? who has POWER? there is your answer. terrorists are given way to much credit.
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#2891540 - 07/14/04 10:20 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: Whos' scarier - Our Government or Terrorists? [Re: pB0t]
#2891721 - 07/14/04 10:58 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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opium production hasn't resumed ... it's increased. it was never completely eradicated. But under the premise that the Taliban had *helped* the effort in the war on drugs, the Bush admin gave them like $43 mil the first few weeks he was in office.
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Re: Whos' scarier - Our Government or Terrorists? [Re: Swami]
#2891764 - 07/14/04 11:12 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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Swami said: WhiteRasta on Feds over States' rights on MMJ: "Well GEEDUB you must be proud! more quadraplegics will be handcuffed to their beds during raids on tiny gardens.When your bitch Tom Ridge gets up and tells us of our imminent danger from terror I did not realize that meant the cerbral palsy kid in the wheel chair.Or the disabled vetreran who had the balls to go to the war you dodged. "
To date, the only one sticking his hand in my pocket to forcibly extract large amounts of income is the Fed.
Terrorists have never hassled me on the streets or busted my buddies for pot.
Terrorists have not totally misappropriated my sacred Social Security fund to illegally use for false purposes, thus greatly diminishing my chance for a secure retirement.
Terrorists did not send my high school & college buddies to die in Viet Nam against their will.
Terrorists are not stamping on the state's rights to deal with issues as they see fit.
No terrorist has yet performed an illegal search at the airport or on the highway.
Terrorists have not seized peoples homes and yachts for a single joint.
Terrorists have not handcuffed and arrested sick people in California and Oregon.
Terrorists are not reading my e-mail, tapping my phone and looking over my shoulder to see what books I check out of the public library.
To those with reading comprehension disability, I certainly do NOT approve of or support any terrorist or terrorist act. Only making the point that my government is much more intrusive and scary to me personally (my condolences to friends and families of 9/11 victims and soldiers killed or wounded) than some martyr-bound Muslim.
Government is much "scarier". We can at least fight terrorists on a legal front.
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Re: Whos' scarier - Our Government or Terrorists? [Re: Shroomism]
#2891797 - 07/14/04 11:20 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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Shroomism said: I've never met, been intimidated by, or had a terrorist interfere with my life thus far.
So far, the government has intimidated me, interfered with my life, and done all these things times 100. So, the government is the bigger threat to me than the terrorists (if they even exist), as they can and do effect my life, on a daily basis. In fact, I think I will become a terrorist, because they seem to dislike my government as much as I do.
The fucking government invaded my home and took my legal cultures. Fuck them. The terrorists are an even worse kind of scum, but we are at least trying to defeat them.
-------------------- "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." - C.S. Lewis "I would rather be exposed to the inconveniencies attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson
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Re: Whos' scarier - Our Government or Terrorists? [Re: pB0t]
#2891815 - 07/14/04 11:29 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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pB0t said: Actually, the Taliban, the former Al Qaeda friendly government of Afghanistan, completely eradicated the opium farming in Afghanistan. That production has resumed now that the Northern Alliance, backed by the US and others, has booted them out. That's how they get their money. The terrorists who blew up the WTC get their money from oil. If you want to help the war on terror, shoot up!
That did not happen. A friend of mine died of an overdose of heroin when we attacked afghanistan and the heroin flooded the market. They were still producing opium in a big way.
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Re: Whos' scarier - Our Government or Terrorists? [Re: z@z.com]
#2891870 - 07/14/04 11:47 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yeah,more heroin is coming out of Afganistan than ever before. It dropped for awhile,so South America picked up.So now there is more than ever. (purity is at an all time high) Al-Qaeda was very anti drug,but the Taliban was not. Don't confuse the two.
-------------------- People think that if you just say the word "hallucinations" it explains everything you want it to explain and eventually whatever it is you can't explain will just go away.It's just a word,it doesn't explain anything... Douglas Adams
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Re: Whos' scarier - Our Government or Terrorists? [Re: monoamine]
#2891880 - 07/14/04 11:52 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yup. Like I said. It killed a very dear friend.
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Re: Whos' scarier - Our Government or Terrorists? [Re: z@z.com]
#2891968 - 07/15/04 12:26 AM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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I think someone was burning a whole shitload of opium poppies somewhere tho. I saw it in my local news paper. It was a while back.
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Re: Whos' scarier - Our Government or Terrorists? [Re: z@z.com]
#2892935 - 07/15/04 09:42 AM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yup. Like I said. It killed a very dear friend.
Not sure there's a direct correlation there. There's any number of factors that might've killed your friend apart from Afghanistans production of poppies.
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