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Re: Whos' scarier - Our Government or Terrorists? [Re: Swami]
    #2872995 - 07/09/04 01:17 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Sorry, but even a defective Swami is occasionally correct.


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Re: Whos' scarier - Our Government or Terrorists? [Re: ld50negative1]
    #2873000 - 07/09/04 01:17 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

That's certainly true. It's simply a matter of how much people will tolerate before it affects them negatively. Most people think, "well I don't have anything to worry about since I'm a law-abiding citizen. Only criminals should care." Other people, like myself, feel that the Patriot Act is blatantly unconstitutional and a precedent for future infringement of rights in the name of fighting terrorism.

Funny how even though "The Terrorists Hate Our Freedom?", the government is the only group slowly taking it away.

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Re: Whos' scarier - Our Government or Terrorists? [Re: Swami]
    #2873006 - 07/09/04 01:18 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Swami said:
Unlike you, I put my life on the line for my country and have earned the right to my opinion. I think I'll stay.




I havent, but I still have a right to my opinion.

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Re: Whos' scarier - Our Government or Terrorists? [Re: ]
    #2873018 - 07/09/04 01:20 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Our government is scary.

We have presidents that cheat.
Drug Addict politicians.
The patriot act?
Roswell New Mexico? Weather balloon? i dont think so.... :wink: :p


but yes, i believe the true terrorists are the american governemtn. They have succeeded in forcing almost every nation into adopting capitalism, and becoming wage laboring societies. We are doing it with iraq now, and it will be successfull, its horrible. Our government seems to think that everyone else is wrong, and we are right, so we impose our rules and regulations on everyone. IF they dont accept them, we consider them a threat, or terrorists.

WE are dealing with business men. The heart of true bussiness is to profit at any cost, that is what our government its doing. We will kill hundreds of innocent people, if it means gaining more control and power over millions. ITs all a game of numbers,  and we are right in the middle of it.

The most we can do now is to recognize who the real terrorists are, and not to fall into the trap that has been layed out in front of you, unless you already have...

peace and love.

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Re: Whos' scarier - Our Government or Terrorists? [Re: psikooz]
    #2873030 - 07/09/04 01:23 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Until now, I've only seen one person here use the term "drug addict" as a slam.

Please tell me you're not going to follow that weasel's example. This is first and formost a drug site. Why mock ANYONE for using drugs?

:tongue:


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Re: Whos' scarier - Our Government or Terrorists? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2888134 - 07/14/04 12:06 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Until now, I've only seen one person here use the term "drug addict" as a slam

Is a statement of fact a "slam"?

This is first and formost a drug site. Why mock ANYONE for using drugs?

Classic luvdemlies dishonesty. Don't try and confuse taking drugs with being a drug addict. Addicts are a small percentage of drug users. The fact that you were unable to handle your high and ended up a crackhead doesn't mean the rest of us can't use drugs sensibly.


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Re: Whos' scarier - Our Government or Terrorists? [Re: Xlea321]
    #2888570 - 07/14/04 03:55 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

In your case it was an attempted slam, since you're not clever enough to hit the target.


Sorry I didn't make this simple enough for you to understand PinochhiAl. A great many regular drug users become addicted.

I got over my addition to freebasing and haven't partook since 1989. If only you could get over being a liar.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: Whos' scarier - Our Government or Terrorists? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2889090 - 07/14/04 10:17 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

In your case it was an attempted

What are you talking about? You're rambling again.


A great many regular drug users become addicted

What do you mean by "regular" and of which "drugs"? Certainly the vast bulk of people who take drugs do not end up hopeless crackheads and it is a blatant lie to say so. But then again, coming from you, what else can we expect?

If only you could get over being a liar.

What "lie" are you referring to?


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Re: Whos' scarier - Our Government or Terrorists? [Re: Xlea321]
    #2889108 - 07/14/04 10:22 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Certainly the vast bulk of people who take drugs do not end up hopeless crackheads and it is a blatant lie to say so.

luvdemshrooms said that "many" drug users become addicts. he didn't say anything about the "vast bulk" or hopeless crackheads.

what he said is not a "blatant lie", but true. even if we make an exception for the hordes of people addicted to alcohol and nicotine, it is still true that many other drug users go on to become addicts.

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Re: Whos' scarier - Our Government or Terrorists? [Re: ]
    #2889118 - 07/14/04 10:24 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

uvdemshrooms said that "many" drug users become addicts. he didn't say anything about the "vast bulk"

Actually he said "a great many".

My initial point was that the number of addicts is a small percentage of total drug users. Are you saying this is wrong?

And which "drugs" are you referring to? Are you saying a great many people who use mushrooms become addicted to them?


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Re: Whos' scarier - Our Government or Terrorists? [Re: Xlea321]
    #2889127 - 07/14/04 10:29 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

and it seems that LDS wasn't refuting that claim, only saying that at even a very small, percentage, it is still a lot. he didn't say anything about ratios, proportions, percentages, fractions, or anything of the sort. only a raw (and subjective) quantity.

i'm having some trouble figuring out what you guys are arguing about this time. LDS seems to be saying that mocking or judging someone for their addiction to drugs isn't right. what i can't figure out is exactly why you've chosen to attack that position or what your point actually is here.

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Re: Whos' scarier - Our Government or Terrorists? [Re: ]
    #2889157 - 07/14/04 10:40 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

and it seems that LDS wasn't refuting that claim, only saying that at even a very small, percentage

I'm not sure how you have reached this conclusion. He said nothing about a "very small percentage". He said a "great many drug users become addicts" in response to my point that most drug users are not addicts. If by "a great many" you wish to believe he meant a "very small percentage" then ok. That's not what I would generally understand "a great many" to mean.

I assume you agree that most people who use drugs do not become drug addicts?

Incidentally what "drugs" are you referring to? Certainly the number of people who become "addicted" to mushrooms is nothing like a "great many" of mushroom users.

LDS seems to be saying that mocking or judging someone for their addiction to drugs isn't right.

Who was mocking anyone for their addiction to drugs?

what your point actually is here

That drug use and drug addiction are not the same thing.


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Re: Whos' scarier - Our Government or Terrorists? [Re: Swami]
    #2889389 - 07/14/04 11:55 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

I've never met, been intimidated by, or had a terrorist interfere with my life thus far.

So far, the government has intimidated me, interfered with my life, and done all these things times 100. So, the government is the bigger threat to me than the terrorists (if they even exist), as they can and do effect my life, on a daily basis. In fact, I think I will become a terrorist, because they seem to dislike my government as much as I do.


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Re: Whos' scarier - Our Government or Terrorists? [Re: Xlea321]
    #2889520 - 07/14/04 12:25 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

I'm not sure how you have reached this conclusion. He said nothing about a "very small percentage". He said a "great many drug users become addicts" in response to my point that most drug users are not addicts. If by "a great many" you wish to believe he meant a "very small percentage" then ok. That's not what I would generally understand "a great many" to mean.

two true statements:

1. a great many people develop cancer each year.

2. a very small portion of the total population develops cancer each year.


I assume you agree that most people who use drugs do not become drug addicts?


and you are correct. neither i, nor luvdemshrooms said anything to the contrary.

Who was mocking anyone for their addiction to drugs?

i'm not exactly sure, but this whole thing got started when LDS said it wasn't right to do it.

That drug use and drug addiction are not the same thing.

calm down then. no one is claiming otherwise. you misinterpreted.

if i said...

"hey... it's not cool to make fun of people with down's syndrom. you know... there are many people out there afflicted with the disease",

and someone read that and responded with an (emotional, knee-jerk reaction of...), "Certainly the vast bulk of people are not hopelessly retarded and it is a blatant lie to say so. But then again, coming from you, what else can we expect?"

wouldn't you say that would be rather silly?

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Re: Whos' scarier - Our Government or Terrorists? [Re: ]
    #2889596 - 07/14/04 12:39 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

You're getting yourself tied in knots over this mush. It really isn't all that complicated.

i'm not exactly sure, but this whole thing got started when LDS said it wasn't right to do it.

No, this whole thing started when psikooz made a "leftist" style post that obviously set luvs panties a-twisting. So he picked three completely irrelevant words out of the post, ignored the rest and launched a completly off-topic, piss-poor, ludicrous attempted slam on psikooz for "making fun of drug addicts at a drug board".

1. Psikooz wasn't making fun of anyone. No-one with even half a brain cell could read his post and come to the conclusion he was "mocking people for taking drugs". That wasn't the point of his post at all.
2. The last I heard this was a mushroom board, not a "drug" board and mushrooms arn't addictive so the whole basis of luvs "point" was garbage anyway.

Now is there a point you are trying to make other than you don't like me very much?  :smile:


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Re: Whos' scarier - Our Government or Terrorists? [Re: Xlea321]
    #2889690 - 07/14/04 12:55 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

"So he picked three completely irrelevant words out of the post, ignored the rest and launched a completly off-topic..."

i'll give you that much. it doesn't change the fact that your little tirade against what he said was entirely misdirected.

as far as picking out irrelevent words, igoring the rest, and launching completey off topic, piss poor, ludicrous attempts at... ah. well. i won't even go there.

if you and luvdemshrooms want to nitpick over stupid shit, go right ahead. i should have learned long ago not to get in the middle of you two.

edit: "two".

Edited by mushmaster (07/14/04 01:00 PM)

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Re: Whos' scarier - Our Government or Terrorists? [Re: Xlea321]
    #2890549 - 07/14/04 04:06 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

In your case it was an attempted

What are you talking about? You're rambling again.



Right.  :rotfl:


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A great many regular drug users become addicted

What do you mean by "regular" and of which "drugs"? Certainly the vast bulk of people who take drugs do not end up hopeless crackheads and it is a blatant lie to say so.



I guess it's a good thing I didn't say so. Otherwise I'd have lied.


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  But then again, coming from you, what else can we expect?



Same thing you'll always get. The unvarnished truth. for you see PinochhiAL, I don't feel the need to lie. It's a shame you do. Since you obviously don't get it, lying is a character flaw. Strange that doesn't bother you.


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If only you could get over being a liar.

What "lie" are you referring to?



I've posted some, add this to the list...
it is a blatant lie to say so.

Dishonesty isn't something to be proud of PinochhiAL, give it up.


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Re: Whos' scarier - Our Government or Terrorists? [Re: Xlea321]
    #2890576 - 07/14/04 04:11 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

panties a-twisting.


  :rotfl:

What a funny fella. Grow up PinochhiAL. Grow up.


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Re: Whos' scarier - Our Government or Terrorists? [Re: ]
    #2890606 - 07/14/04 04:18 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

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if you and luvdemshrooms want to nitpick over stupid shit, go right ahead. i should have learned long ago not to get in the middle of you two.




I should ignore him as well but I can't let liars go unchallenged.

It's good to see the truth means something to you as well. If only more felt the same.


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Re: Whos' scarier - Our Government or Terrorists? [Re: Swami]
    #2890928 - 07/14/04 05:58 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

I must say, living in Canada right now, I feel America as a bigger threat to my well being and safety then terrorists.

Something about that statement makes me think it doesn't add up.

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