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Modular synth app for psychedelic sounds. 4
#28694837 - 03/11/24 10:34 AM (3 months, 15 days ago) |
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So I have been diving into modular synthesis for the past month or so and have stumbled upon a wicked application that I think everyone here would find at least one good use for. VCV Rack, miRack for IOS, is nothing short of an absolute masterpiece. On the music side of things it is an endless fountain of inspiration which deserves a thread in and of itself. (I am 100% behind the idea of sharing patches so if there are any other vcv fans I think it would be worth starting a thread).
What I want to talk to you guys about today is something which is best done with the IOS version. Unlike VCV rack it is not free but for only 15 dollars, this blows any music/sound design app out of the water. There is the option to use the microphone as an audio input and patch it effect modules directly. Set the background noise setting on and voila you can recreate the sound space of your psychedelic experiences and modulate on the fly to adjust any parameter you wish.
For me I have found the best results going from input > delay > reverb > distortion (barely any) > phaser (with an LFO to simulate the boomerang headspace) > output. Try it out for yourselves you will not regret it!
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Re: Modular synth app for psychedelic sounds. [Re: Plurlife]
#28694849 - 03/11/24 10:47 AM (3 months, 15 days ago) |
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This looks very cool, thanks for sharing! Will definitely be downloading this and having a play around.
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Re: Modular synth app for psychedelic sounds. [Re: herb_liker]
#28694990 - 03/11/24 01:35 PM (3 months, 15 days ago) |
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yesss awesome to find a modular synth thread on the shroomery and in TPE subforum even it does fit because the wiring possibilities are reminiscent of psychedelic modes of thinking.
i don't have a modular system myself but some of my friends do and the possibilites are amazing and literally endless... and the sounds much more interesting than from prewired synth, which i use mostly. soft or hardware. because i can easily get to where i wanna be... my approach is more systematic than experimental
as for software i used to use ableton live but now switched to bitwig... + VSTs ofc
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Re: Modular synth app for psychedelic sounds. [Re: Plurlife]
#28695083 - 03/11/24 02:55 PM (3 months, 15 days ago) |
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Plurlife said: So I have been diving into modular synthesis for the past month or so and have stumbled upon a wicked application that I think everyone here would find at least one good use for. VCV Rack, miRack for IOS, is nothing short of an absolute masterpiece. On the music side of things it is an endless fountain of inspiration which deserves a thread in and of itself. (I am 100% behind the idea of sharing patches so if there are any other vcv fans I think it would be worth starting a thread).
What I want to talk to you guys about today is something which is best done with the IOS version. Unlike VCV rack it is not free but for only 15 dollars, this blows any music/sound design app out of the water. There is the option to use the microphone as an audio input and patch it effect modules directly. Set the background noise setting on and voila you can recreate the sound space of your psychedelic experiences and modulate on the fly to adjust any parameter you wish.
For me I have found the best results going from input > delay > reverb > distortion (barely any) > phaser (with an LFO to simulate the boomerang headspace) > output. Try it out for yourselves you will not regret it!
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Re: Modular synth app for psychedelic sounds. [Re: Psicomb]
#28695836 - 03/11/24 11:28 PM (3 months, 15 days ago) |
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sounds great, but I have drifted back into windows for the forseeable future.
enjoying pocket operators which are not at all like modular synth but Po35 and Po33 are a lot of fun. I once had a Moog 3P with a bode phase shifter, and resonant filter bank. that is closer to what you are talking about and that was endlessly enjoyable. the oscillators needed intermittent tuning (it was fully analog - 1968 vintage) which was quaint but annoying too. I loaned it so someone who let it become destroyed when his basement apartment got flooded, when he was out of town - so noone to blame really.
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Re: Modular synth app for psychedelic sounds. [Re: redgreenvines]
#28696681 - 03/12/24 03:50 PM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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very amazing. this one? https://www.synthmuseum.com/moog/moo3p01.jpg
just found this site for free VST modular synths to be used in a DAW https://plugins4free.com/instruments/Modular/
ableton live lite is a free DAW but limited to 8 channels :/ ^^ https://www.ableton.com/en/products/live-lite/
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Re: Modular synth app for psychedelic sounds. [Re: epilectric] 1
#28697901 - 03/13/24 12:44 PM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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yes, too bad I did not take photos - nearly exactly the same as that

I see the resonant filter bank upper left - folowed by reverb followed by (?a filter?) followed by a pair of in-outs with 3 outs each, then top row of next case voltage controlled low pass filter, voltage controlled band pass filter, voltage controlled high pass filter, some triggers, maybe a LF oscillator, then in the third case top row all vco's?; then middle row voltage controlled oscillators - in the third case a 8 line mixer Bottom row ADSR envelope generators and patch bays & ?
it's been 45 years, sheesh!
enjoy the patching
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Re: Modular synth app for psychedelic sounds. [Re: redgreenvines]
#28698008 - 03/13/24 02:57 PM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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omg . this thing is worth several +10k today
the fact that you had one of these, in combination with the first microdot story and all the stacking / layering theories now, is an amazing fact/combination for me 
just logged in for the first time today and your post was the last. that's what i'm talking about with everything being synced 
i'm meditating on the holistic unity of it all now. after vaping a bowl
in recent years, music hast lost some of its emotional grip on me. i got more into silence, nature sounds and bird chirps... patching can be meditative too for sure
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Re: Modular synth app for psychedelic sounds. [Re: epilectric] 3
#28698021 - 03/13/24 03:12 PM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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It was a well used system I had picked up 2nd or 3rd hand. I had a whole room dedicated to it in a mostly empty house in the suburbs on a ravine, and an HP85 computer generating sounds from a basic program this was ~1977 - I was using it to calculate soil clause credits on a subdivision site - back computing excess volumes from number of dumpt trucks filled during excavation. but I figured out how to make weird music from it. I had a frequency follower and envelope follower in the 3p so ended up patching mic'd output from the computer (calculator really) to the oscillators and triggers and frequ followrs
I would get stoned (weed coke) and just patch and dance against the imagined cathedral of echoes and resonances turning the knobs for peak at various freq's
it was more physically satisfying than touch screens
wacky! fun!
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Re: Modular synth app for psychedelic sounds. [Re: Plurlife] 1
#28698654 - 03/14/24 07:33 AM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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Cool thread & posts, I'm not an IOS user though so can't check app out. Great to hear that you picked it up and having a lot of fun with it-never got into modular synths myself but a friend who I'd jam a lot with had some cool shit, some modular Prophet, Moog stuff and a really blessed mix of other juicy analogue & digital goodies.

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Plurlife said: There is the option to use the microphone as an audio input and patch it effect modules directly. Set the background noise setting on and voila you can recreate the sound space of your psychedelic experiences and modulate on the fly to adjust any parameter you wish.
For me I have found the best results going from input > delay > reverb > distortion (barely any) > phaser (with an LFO to simulate the boomerang headspace) > output. Try it out for yourselves you will not regret it!
That sounds like a lot of fun and I can imagine obsessing after an accurate recreation. I suppose you'd have to do a LOT of research to get the mix perfect...

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redgreenvines said: It was a well used system I had picked up 2nd or 3rd hand. I had a whole room dedicated to it in a mostly empty house in the suburbs on a ravine, and an HP85 computer generating sounds from a basic program this was ~1977 - I was using it to calculate soil clause credits on a subdivision site - back computing excess volumes from number of dumpt trucks filled during excavation. but I figured out how to make weird music from it. I had a frequency follower and envelope follower in the 3p so ended up patching mic'd output from the computer (calculator really) to the oscillators and triggers and frequ followrs
I would get stoned (weed coke) and just patch and dance against the imagined cathedral of echoes and resonances turning the knobs for peak at various freq's
it was more physically satisfying than touch screens
wacky! fun!
 Insofar as I know you from posts, this is maybe the most RGV thing I've ever read- proper lysergic Doc Emmet Brown style shit.
 Strongly agree with the bold too, the idea of playing around with an instrument or hardware synth on psychedelics? Blissful, inspiring, meditative. The idea of opening my DAW and (even with the way companies often strive to include- some a LOT WORSE than others- visually appealing elements to their UIs) fiddling about on there on psychs? Hellish, stifling, stressful. I can just about hang in there until close to peaking with say, Maschine- but find if I so much as catch a glimpse of a patches title or any visual elements like that, I get thematically sidetracked or something... Flow state is harder to achieve with so much involved (non psychedelic haha) visual mess, IMO. Outside of playing an instrument, most of my favourite musical contributions on psychedlics involve being at least 50%couch and shouting stuff at my friend manning the helm.
 OP, the way you feel about VCVRack, is how I feel about 'mynoise' check it out sometime- I've been using it near daily since discovery and several times now as audio support during closed eye trips- with thoroughly enjoyable results.
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Re: Modular synth app for psychedelic sounds. [Re: redgreenvines]
#28699072 - 03/14/24 03:19 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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redgreenvines said: It was a well used system I had picked up 2nd or 3rd hand. I had a whole room dedicated to it in a mostly empty house in the suburbs on a ravine, and an HP85 computer generating sounds from a basic program this was ~1977 - I was using it to calculate soil clause credits on a subdivision site - back computing excess volumes from number of dumpt trucks filled during excavation. but I figured out how to make weird music from it. I had a frequency follower and envelope follower in the 3p so ended up patching mic'd output from the computer (calculator really) to the oscillators and triggers and frequ followrs
I would get stoned (weed coke) and just patch and dance against the imagined cathedral of echoes and resonances turning the knobs for peak at various freq's
it was more physically satisfying than touch screens
wacky! fun!
i can't put in words how awesome this is =D
77 is my brother's birthyear. the one that remotely considers trying lsd but hasn't done so yet...
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Re: Modular synth app for psychedelic sounds. [Re: epilectric] 3
#28710900 - 03/23/24 10:31 PM (3 months, 3 days ago) |
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I’m so glad I started this thread lol finding RGV’s theories made a huge impact for me at the time I found them. Brought me back down to earth and shot me to space all in one. Glad I could bring up some fond memories. I 100% agree that there is something missing when making music on a screen even when I’m working with hardware emulations. Although it’s not quite as good, a midi controller with a lot of knobs (I have the minilab mk2 from arturia) can be a cheap imitation.
Also I will add that it has made research significantly easier haha trying to patch with a mouse/using a touchscreen made it very hard to keep track of things.
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Re: Modular synth app for psychedelic sounds. [Re: Lithop] 2
#28710905 - 03/23/24 10:36 PM (3 months, 3 days ago) |
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Thanks for the recommendation! I’ll certainly check it out next time I get in the kitchen.
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Re: Modular synth app for psychedelic sounds. [Re: Plurlife]
#28711379 - 03/24/24 10:25 AM (3 months, 2 days ago) |
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cook it up
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