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Re: Should Canada Allow Assisted Death for the Mentally Ill? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #28698972 - 03/14/24 01:28 PM (3 months, 11 days ago)

Why not? :shrug:

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Re: Should Canada Allow Assisted Death for the Mentally Ill? [Re: Cory Duchesne] * 2
    #28699164 - 03/14/24 05:10 PM (3 months, 11 days ago)

I saw a video at one point of a woman with anorexia who said she would be taking advantage of this law. I felt disturbed. Anorexia by its nature is a slow, steady descent toward death. There is something about the nature of that disorder that is quite oppositional to efforts to help... but on a deeper level, it is a desperate cry for love. It's like a hunger strike to demand TRUE love rather than the pale imitative form of conditional love/approval that is never enough.

This law would appeal to social Darwinists who would love to hasten the eradication of the "defective" mentally ill. And it would reinforce the notion that those "defective" people would be better off dead - it would reinforce that notion WITHIN the so-called "defective" person, who is already, by virtue of a self-defeating belief system, in serious doubt of their worthiness to be here on this planet. Furthermore, suicide very often as an AGGRESSIVE element to it - meant to hurt those left behind. Folks with anorexia often have a lot of repressed anger. So let's allow dubious medical professionals to collude with them in getting back at their family by killing themselves? Hmmm.

I understand it's supposed to be reserved for folks who have tried all the traditional treatment options. But, come on! There have to be more options for treating anorexia. That is NOT a hopeless disease. Lots of people recover. It's not the same as ALS or terminal cancer or dementia. Legalize MDMA. Do some serious family therapy. Reform the culture, get at the roots of all the toxicity around us. But give up and say, "yeah, maybe we should just help you kill yourself?" Lol.


One final thought: if someone REALLY wants to kill themselves, there are ways to do it. I won't get into specifics. But there is even an organization that provides advice to folks with a terminal illness or dementia on how to do it properly and without pain. But they don't help folks with mental illness.


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Re: Should Canada Allow Assisted Death for the Mentally Ill? [Re: Blue Cthulhu]
    #28699339 - 03/14/24 07:21 PM (3 months, 10 days ago)

True


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            eí excalfíó             
                 
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Re: Should Canada Allow Assisted Death for the Mentally Ill? [Re: Blue Cthulhu]
    #28699351 - 03/14/24 07:29 PM (3 months, 10 days ago)

There is an unfortunate aspect, even more than suicide itself, remaining for the living, about suicide, which is that a person may feel living is actually worse than dying. This is pathological, but it may not feel so, and it may feel logical and reasoned, weighed down by the moment. It is said Nero, shortly after ordering his slave to cut his neck, realized he could have waited and been saved and said 'too late,' as he was bleeding out. Sometimes you feel no way out... Indeed for Nero there was no way out... so at least he thought. There is immense pain and suffering, and something must be done to address this better. It starts with addressing what ought to be answered and understood for people, with providing a standard of thinking, of education -- not drilling facts into students but encouraging perspectives that make sense of the facts and collect them eagerly.


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𝕴𝖓 𝖓𝖔𝖒𝖎𝖓𝖊 𝖇𝖔𝖓𝖎 𝖕𝖊𝖘𝖘𝖎𝖒𝖎 𝖒𝖆𝖑𝖔𝖗𝖚𝖒 𝖋𝖎𝖚𝖓𝖙.

            eí excalfíó             
                 
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Re: Should Canada Allow Assisted Death for the Mentally Ill? [Re: Blue Cthulhu]
    #28700285 - 03/15/24 05:01 PM (3 months, 10 days ago)

Personally, I am not exactly loving life or having a great or happy time. However, I do think it's right to fight for what I believe in. I think it's wrong to call someone stupid. I would rather die than live in proximity to someone who is verbally abusing me. Life would be so much better for me if we were all productive and respected, not, passive and insulted. I've had a far from easy life. It's difficult for me to look forward to seeing anyone, given that I have not been well received in the classroom or the workplace. Je parler un peu de francais but have not had much success beyond the English language. Bilingual I am not. I sometimes wonder if my IQ is a bit on the low end and I wonder how much shittier that makes my life. How is it ethical to pretend to have solutions when all I really have are problems?

On a lighter note,  I hope you guys are enjoying the daylight savings time.  My only worry is that the extra sunshine will create more global warming. :P


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"I shall not commit the fashionable stupidity of regarding everything I cannot explain as a fraud." - Carl Jung

Krishna, as his friends called him, freely admitted his compulsive lying. He blamed it on simple fear of having his deceptions detected." NOTES OF A FRINGE-WATCHER MARTIN GARDNER on J Krishnamurti

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Re: Should Canada Allow Assisted Death for the Mentally Ill? [Re: Blue Cthulhu]
    #28700312 - 03/15/24 05:22 PM (3 months, 10 days ago)

Canada has a Real Addiction Problem




Coerced by Government then Offered MAID as a Way Out



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C.G. Jung: "Please remember, it is what you are that heals, not what you know."

"I shall not commit the fashionable stupidity of regarding everything I cannot explain as a fraud." - Carl Jung

Krishna, as his friends called him, freely admitted his compulsive lying. He blamed it on simple fear of having his deceptions detected." NOTES OF A FRINGE-WATCHER MARTIN GARDNER on J Krishnamurti

"All your questions are born out of the answers you already have. Any answer anybody gives should put an end to your questions. But it does not." [UG-K]

Edited by Cory Duchesne (03/15/24 05:31 PM)

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Re: Should Canada Allow Assisted Death for the Mentally Ill? [Re: Cory Duchesne]
    #28700439 - 03/15/24 07:18 PM (3 months, 9 days ago)

My husband has been harrassed by the same other employee for 2 weeks now. This guy went out of his way to announce to everyone else that if his son is gay, he's going to disown him. He picks on my husband all the time, and the other coworkers have noticed. My hub is such a good person though, he isn't taking it any further because he knows the guy has kids and he doesn't want to fuck the guy's life up, because he, frankly, could. We worked together for a few years and we had a few times that were very hard relating to us being together. Someone finds out, and then everything changes. We've been straight up sexually harrassed, refused to be worked with... Someone actually said they refuse to work around us. They were fired. The other dude, a guy high up in management, who tried to do some of that shit to me, said some stuff I won't repeat, was banned from the property. Going through that sounds all satisfying, as if you get your revenge or something. No. It is embarrassing and humiliating, and it is not fun to go through that. For that reason I have deliberately NOT reported at this point I have lost track of all the degrading things I have had done or said to me by coworkers, often in a way that would be dubious if reported.


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𝕴𝖓 𝖓𝖔𝖒𝖎𝖓𝖊 𝖇𝖔𝖓𝖎 𝖕𝖊𝖘𝖘𝖎𝖒𝖎 𝖒𝖆𝖑𝖔𝖗𝖚𝖒 𝖋𝖎𝖚𝖓𝖙.

            eí excalfíó             
                 
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Re: Should Canada Allow Assisted Death for the Mentally Ill? [Re: Cory Duchesne]
    #28700442 - 03/15/24 07:21 PM (3 months, 9 days ago)

People are really fucking evil. And IQ is so stupid to focus on. It isn't even worth destroying, because it takes too long. But it is something you can rightfully ignore as bullshit.


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𝕴𝖓 𝖓𝖔𝖒𝖎𝖓𝖊 𝖇𝖔𝖓𝖎 𝖕𝖊𝖘𝖘𝖎𝖒𝖎 𝖒𝖆𝖑𝖔𝖗𝖚𝖒 𝖋𝖎𝖚𝖓𝖙.

            eí excalfíó             
                 
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Re: Should Canada Allow Assisted Death for the Mentally Ill? [Re: Blue_Lux]
    #28700788 - 03/16/24 01:05 AM (3 months, 9 days ago)

I am queer, but I am not homosexual or in any binary non-binary category.
Queer as in oddball, different, unusual.

One of my early jobs was in a bottle cap factory, I ran a mail route and did quality control as well as tool room computations of metal use from stock.

Everyone knew me, and assumed I was Gay, because I was small-ish, pretty-ish and walked a bit odd (from a childhood hip injury I guess). The comments that were made as I passed by the workers to the various departments were not pleasant.

OK it was the 1960's but I don't think that much has changed, people are weird in factories, and take that from someone who is queer-ish.


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Re: Should Canada Allow Assisted Death for the Mentally Ill? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #28700988 - 03/16/24 08:05 AM (3 months, 9 days ago)

Growing up my homophobic surrounding people, you can call it, used 'queer' as a slur. As a child we would play a game called "smear the queer," which is basically when whoever gets the football, you tackle them until they lose it and someone else gets it, and over again. I don't like the word queer, and I think to adopt it and use it is really just to willingly degrade oneself.

I remember the way they would pronounce queer in a derogatory manner. "Fuckin' queer." "Queerbait." There are more with this word. You can call yourself whatever you want... To willingly call myself that would be masochism for me.

I realized I was one of those symbolic queers we had all been smearing in the yard.

Queer means odd, weird... I'm not weird for being in love with a man, even though many people believe this. They can all kiss my ass.


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𝕴𝖓 𝖓𝖔𝖒𝖎𝖓𝖊 𝖇𝖔𝖓𝖎 𝖕𝖊𝖘𝖘𝖎𝖒𝖎 𝖒𝖆𝖑𝖔𝖗𝖚𝖒 𝖋𝖎𝖚𝖓𝖙.

            eí excalfíó             
                 
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Re: Should Canada Allow Assisted Death for the Mentally Ill? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #28701005 - 03/16/24 08:29 AM (3 months, 9 days ago)

More on this.. I didn't actually know the word queer meant gay man growing up until a certain point. I thought it basically just meant a dude who is lesser than the others, worth humiliating, is bad, is not worth respecting. Little by little I became to realize what fag and queer meant... And then finally realizing what it really meant I was completely bewildered. And basically I stopped trusting most people there, at age 8. I became a very religious young boy. I carried my bible everywhere. I would read it, take notes. When I got to be 12 years old I convinced a bunch of my friends that God had cured my sins of homosexuality. A few months later I was completely atheist and trusted nobody, and then found drugs.

Well, I first created  a pseudo buddhist spirituality called Pacemism, which has a few core behavioral tenets. I lost interest in that and then became atheist.


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𝕴𝖓 𝖓𝖔𝖒𝖎𝖓𝖊 𝖇𝖔𝖓𝖎 𝖕𝖊𝖘𝖘𝖎𝖒𝖎 𝖒𝖆𝖑𝖔𝖗𝖚𝖒 𝖋𝖎𝖚𝖓𝖙.

            eí excalfíó             
                 
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Re: Should Canada Allow Assisted Death for the Mentally Ill? [Re: Blue_Lux]
    #28701011 - 03/16/24 08:37 AM (3 months, 9 days ago)

Whether it's the word queer or gay, it boils down the tone of voice and intent of the speaker. Where I grew up, 'gay' was a slur, because of the tone of voice and intent. So, queer or gay, these words depend on intent. I too grew up in a homophobic high school. It bothered me to the extent of that my feminine features were exploited or drawn attention to. I've only had romantic/sexual relations with women, but my male friendships were important to me. As I got older, who I hung around with mattered to my girlfriend and the degree of sexual access I got had a lot to do with how social I was with other men, and I wasn't always appreciated. Reminds me of a film, boys don't cry with Hilary Swank, a tomboy pretending she was a man so she could have a girlfriend. I would say I'm a blend of masculine and feminine, masculine enough to make the mens basektball team in highschool, but stubbornly feminine in that I remained skinny, lacked muscle, not good at math, and a disproportionate interest in music and dance. 

“It takes a certain amount of intelligence and imagination to realize the extraordinary queerness and mysteriousness of the world in which we live. The fools, the innumerable fools, take it all for granted, skate about cheerfully on the surface and never think of inquiring what's underneath.”
― Aldous Huxley, Those Barren Leaves


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C.G. Jung: "Please remember, it is what you are that heals, not what you know."

"I shall not commit the fashionable stupidity of regarding everything I cannot explain as a fraud." - Carl Jung

Krishna, as his friends called him, freely admitted his compulsive lying. He blamed it on simple fear of having his deceptions detected." NOTES OF A FRINGE-WATCHER MARTIN GARDNER on J Krishnamurti

"All your questions are born out of the answers you already have. Any answer anybody gives should put an end to your questions. But it does not." [UG-K]

Edited by Cory Duchesne (03/16/24 08:39 AM)

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Re: Should Canada Allow Assisted Death for the Mentally Ill? [Re: Cory Duchesne]
    #28701018 - 03/16/24 08:46 AM (3 months, 9 days ago)

I understand homophobia very deeply, in all its myriad forms... And yet... I don't understand it. I have tried to understand it.. truly. I have considered every option, including that there really is something deeply wrong with me, skewing my perception.

One of the proofs for me about my homosexuality being completely natural and, indeed, part of who I am was taking a large dose of mushrooms with my husband. If you are on mushrooms with another person, if you are open, everything you are uncomfortable with... is going to come out. If the relationship isn't real... The mushrooms are going to make this such a conscious and uncomfortable fact... it will lead to a bad trip.

Why would the opposite happen then? Why would opening up the contents of our emotions and thoughts with psychedelics, with one another, lead to us realizing more love about each other? And wanting to just be with each other? It isn't about sex. It is but it isn't. That isn't the main goal. Psychedelics have utterly proved this to me, not that I truly needed such proof, but it is a sort of test if you take them seriously.

So, at this point... I think the best explanation for the nonsense, the hate, the stupid slurs... It is really plain IGNORANCE. These people don't know. They use these slurs as a means of degrading others so they can feel better, and it establishes a really fucked up social precedent, if you will, but I digress.


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I the music, not the bling
sodomy trials
𝕴𝖓 𝖓𝖔𝖒𝖎𝖓𝖊 𝖇𝖔𝖓𝖎 𝖕𝖊𝖘𝖘𝖎𝖒𝖎 𝖒𝖆𝖑𝖔𝖗𝖚𝖒 𝖋𝖎𝖚𝖓𝖙.

            eí excalfíó             
                 
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Re: Should Canada Allow Assisted Death for the Mentally Ill? [Re: Blue_Lux]
    #28701020 - 03/16/24 08:47 AM (3 months, 9 days ago)

well, who do you think is weirder, you or me. I think it's me that is more queer than you, and it's been like that for a long time.


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Re: Should Canada Allow Assisted Death for the Mentally Ill? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #28701029 - 03/16/24 08:52 AM (3 months, 9 days ago)

I think you're unique and eccentric. I think people are most interesting when you cannot immediately understand them.


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I the music, not the bling
sodomy trials
𝕴𝖓 𝖓𝖔𝖒𝖎𝖓𝖊 𝖇𝖔𝖓𝖎 𝖕𝖊𝖘𝖘𝖎𝖒𝖎 𝖒𝖆𝖑𝖔𝖗𝖚𝖒 𝖋𝖎𝖚𝖓𝖙.

            eí excalfíó             
                 
                                                        kykeon

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Re: Should Canada Allow Assisted Death for the Mentally Ill? [Re: Blue_Lux]
    #28701034 - 03/16/24 08:57 AM (3 months, 9 days ago)

Heterosexual men have strong feelings of love and admiration for other men, revealed in their hero worship of athletes, film stars and musicians. I see a love to admire in all people. It goes way beyond sexual intercourse. If it's a human, they admire and respect so and so.  I think the disdain for homosexuality has to do with the disdain and discord that sex causes across the board. Even heterosexual couples who fit the criteria for "acceptable" have to accept the disdain for each others sexual quirks and I think humans share a repugnance for poop and anuses in general. Also the loud sound sex makes and how unpleasant that is to live with for those sleeping alone in the other room. Worst of all is when you're not even sure if it's rape or not. I heard someone say the other day that if he seen a couple having loud energetic sex in the distance outdoors, his first impression would be to say it was rape, even if it was consensual. Such is the confusion that sex creates. The human species would be better off without it. I also remember my high school mates talking about masterbating, and I was not able to do that since I had phomosis. Getting my foreskin removed through surgery did not necessarily do anything to improve my life. It just enabled me to have pre marital sex with my girlfriend, and then a second girlfriend, then a third, and now at 43 it's just nothing, no lady wants anything to do with me it seems these days. Sex has made me pretty miserable.


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C.G. Jung: "Please remember, it is what you are that heals, not what you know."

"I shall not commit the fashionable stupidity of regarding everything I cannot explain as a fraud." - Carl Jung

Krishna, as his friends called him, freely admitted his compulsive lying. He blamed it on simple fear of having his deceptions detected." NOTES OF A FRINGE-WATCHER MARTIN GARDNER on J Krishnamurti

"All your questions are born out of the answers you already have. Any answer anybody gives should put an end to your questions. But it does not." [UG-K]

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Re: Should Canada Allow Assisted Death for the Mentally Ill? [Re: Blue_Lux]
    #28701054 - 03/16/24 09:11 AM (3 months, 9 days ago)

This video is good example of how much misery is involved in sexuality, look at what people put themselves through all around the world:



Phimosis: The word is from the Greek φίμωσις phimōsis meaning "muzzling".

Phimosis is defined as the inability to retract the skin (foreskin or prepuce) covering the head (glans) of the penis. Phimosis may appear as a tight ring or “rubber band” of foreskin around the tip of the penis, preventing full retraction.

Treatments: Circumcision

'This is my rule in all the churches. Was anyone at the time of his call already circumcised? Let him not seek to remove the marks of circumcision. Was anyone at the time of his call uncircumcised? Let him not seek circumcision. Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing; but obeying the commandments of God is everything. Let each of you remain in the condition in which you were called.' (1 Cor. 7:17b-20)

“If we feel our way into the human secrets of the sick person, the madness also reveals its system, and we recognize in the mental illness merely an exceptional reaction to emotional problems which are not strange to us."
― Carl Gustav Jung, The Psychogenesis of Mental Disease


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C.G. Jung: "Please remember, it is what you are that heals, not what you know."

"I shall not commit the fashionable stupidity of regarding everything I cannot explain as a fraud." - Carl Jung

Krishna, as his friends called him, freely admitted his compulsive lying. He blamed it on simple fear of having his deceptions detected." NOTES OF A FRINGE-WATCHER MARTIN GARDNER on J Krishnamurti

"All your questions are born out of the answers you already have. Any answer anybody gives should put an end to your questions. But it does not." [UG-K]

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Re: Should Canada Allow Assisted Death for the Mentally Ill? [Re: Cory Duchesne]
    #28701058 - 03/16/24 09:14 AM (3 months, 9 days ago)

That was quite a tragic response. I'm sorry you had to deal with phimosis, but there are people who overlook that, and who don't care. I am one of them, not that I have it, but that if my husband did have that, I wouldn't care, because what we have is deeper than that. These people who hurt someone for something they can't help are evil. And I believe circumcision is mostly evil, but this is beside the point.

The sex me and my husband have is.... Okay here goes the sappy shit, but for science now. I really view my life as a science experiment. I'm not ashamed of it.

The anus/ poop fear. This is really a stupid fixation. But... Okay, this is something crucial, and I've been wanting to write it down, so here it goes.

The desires and feelings regarding anal sex... they regard many things other than the fact poop comes out of the same hole. Lol. Unless you have a bowel condition, poop isn't just sitting in there all day long. Furthermore, the rectum is not that unclean of a place, contrary to what people think. If it truly was, then why have I never had a sexually transmitted disease or infection?

Furthermore, gay men are actually, usually when they are inexperienced with sex, embarrassed and shy about anal sex, because of the shame of poop, potential bad smells, etc. This goes away when each realizes that both do not judge each other and have almost the same body. Over time, a part of them becomes not much different than a part of you. Some people walk around like they never take a shit or fart. Those people are usually pompous, arrogant pieces of trash. I'm talking about those who obsess about cleanliness to the extent of not being human anymore. People even bathe themselves in bleach because of this stupid, petty embarassment about the human body and condition.

For my husband and I, there are feelings shared with sex, and they have nothing to do with the sorts of images you displayed there "dominating one another, rape, dubious as to whether consent is involved." That is utterly divorced from anything I understand as emotional. I'm not saying sex is always some divine light of colored emotion. I'm saying there is a sexually unifying experience for gay men as well with each other, and I think there is an entire field of unwritten, technical, easy to miss and hard to articulate emotions in this exact thing, which are indeed meaningful. I see sex as a type of communication. I don't condone people using another person for sex, or paying for sex.

Sex does not want to be put into words or thought logically. It ruins it really. And this is dramatically the case with homosexual sex. The description of homosexual sex itself, I posit, is so platonically contaminated that it actually cannot be coherently understood to most people, unless they themselves understand implicitly the type of experience and understanding that two men can have of each other, who love each other and experience joy by giving each other happiness and, of course, sexual pleasure, which is the most intimate proof that someone wants you to feel good, unless, of course, there is not a neurological sharing, deep even if you touch each other's arms. It is the same electrical shock when someone touches your face or rubs your head. I don't rate the satisfactions of physical interaction. We give each other massages, head rubs, feet rubs etc. Etc. Etc. We bathe each other... I used to cut his hair... We dress each other. We eat together, we share the same cup all the time without even thinking about it...

There is something deeper about homosexuality that I don't think I have uncovered yet, but everything makes me think about the myth of the Greeks about soul mates but in tandem with the modern conception of symbiosis.

I am very aware of the potential dangers of sexuality. I have gone through  a broken heart, and that is perhaps the worst pain anyone can actually feel. It feels like someone has stomped on your chest and stomach, and it doesn't go away. I know, but still, against Epicurus, I claim love is worth being persued. The problem is people looking to get something from another, not LIVE life WITH them and share a human experience.


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Re: Should Canada Allow Assisted Death for the Mentally Ill? [Re: Cory Duchesne] * 1
    #28701070 - 03/16/24 09:30 AM (3 months, 9 days ago)

That very quote, if you have the eyes to see it, is why Jung reportedly said, albeit jokingly "Show me a sane man and I will cure him for you."


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Re: Should Canada Allow Assisted Death for the Mentally Ill? [Re: Blue_Lux]
    #28701074 - 03/16/24 09:32 AM (3 months, 9 days ago)

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Blue_Lux said:
That was quite a tragic response. I'm sorry you had to deal with phimosis, but there are people who overlook that, and who don't care. I am one of them, not that I have it, but that if my husband did have that, I wouldn't care, because what we have is deeper than that. These people who hurt someone for something they can't help are evil. And I believe circumcision is mostly evil, but this is beside the point.




I would have been better off if I waited until I was married and had a proper honey moon. I do think circumcision is evil insofar as it happens prior to marriage. I think losing virginity prior to marriage is also evil, and sexually active teenagers are a plague unloosed onto society. It creates dysfunctional entitled adults who discard and dump each other for something better. At 43 years old I'm too embittered to ever get married but I can caution and warn young people that you really should wait until you're married before you become sexually active, and hopefully there is a connection there that goes beyond sex. Nothing worse than having sex with someone and then being informed that there is a lack of connection, or, being informed by your partner one has degenerated or changed for the worse. Masterbation is also an evil insofar as it's ridiculed and despised by other so called happily married professionals. I had a psychiatrist ridicule me over the phone for masterbating, laughing snarky at me. This is a professional doctor who has nothing better to do that peek in at my private life and make such rash guesses about what I do as a single bachelor.


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C.G. Jung: "Please remember, it is what you are that heals, not what you know."

"I shall not commit the fashionable stupidity of regarding everything I cannot explain as a fraud." - Carl Jung

Krishna, as his friends called him, freely admitted his compulsive lying. He blamed it on simple fear of having his deceptions detected." NOTES OF A FRINGE-WATCHER MARTIN GARDNER on J Krishnamurti

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