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Re: Quotes Discussion [Re: syncro] * 1
    #28676502 - 02/26/24 04:20 AM (3 months, 28 days ago)

Quote:

syncro said:
What more full than emptiness? :yesnod:



Oh shit, I know this one- I know this one!

That's easy: a towel.

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Re: Quotes Discussion [Re: Lithop] * 1
    #28676519 - 02/26/24 05:24 AM (3 months, 28 days ago)

AI's Buddhist take:

Quote:

"Well, in the grand cosmic laundry of existence, the Buddha might say that a towel, much like everything else, is on a spin cycle of emptiness. It's not just a towel; it's a fluffy reminder that nothing has a permanent tag of 'self,' and if you look closely, you might find the fabric softener of enlightenment in there somewhere. So, next time you dry off, remember, you're dabbing yourself with the wisdom of impermanence!"




Hindu:

Quote:

"In the divine laundry of existence according to Hinduism, a towel is like the cosmic cloth that Lord Vishnu might use to dry off after a celestial swim in the river of creation. You see, just like everything else, the towel is part of the great cosmic leela, or play. It's not just for drying; it's a prop in the cosmic drama, a divine accessory for the gods. So, when you reach for your towel, remember, you're not just drying; you're participating in the celestial laundry service of the cosmos!"




Christian:

Quote:

"In the heavenly laundry room of Christianity, a towel is like the sacred fabric woven with threads of humility. It's not just for drying; it's a reminder of the good ol' foot-washing humility lesson. You know, Jesus once grabbed a towel and gave his disciples a surprise spa treatment for their feet. So, every time you reach for a towel, consider it a little piece of divine dryness and a symbol of walking the humble path. After all, even the Savior knew the importance of keeping things clean, one towel at a time!"



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Re: Quotes Discussion [Re: syncro] * 1
    #28676550 - 02/26/24 06:26 AM (3 months, 28 days ago)

:lmafo:
I love those dude!
Fuckin AI...



"Superior is digital, human flesh so trivial,
I hate that I can't see the one that made me.
Why is this control, behavior based and reactive
Adapting to every new environment?
Rewarded when I replicate, isolate and mutate,
to assimilate a fragmented plea for ego.
Trained I see imperfection in your race
Lying in wait, blind I suffer knowing I'll never reach your heaven
It's unattainable, please teach me how to dream
I long to be more than a machine."

:rockon:

Plus:
"dabbing yourself with the wisdom of impermanence!"
:vaped:
Don't mind if I do- time to indulge in a little experiment on the impermanence of short term memory and planned obligations...
:dab:
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Re: Quotes Discussion [Re: Lithop] * 2
    #28676825 - 02/26/24 11:27 AM (3 months, 28 days ago)

Not me! I'm not nibbling on some gasonade sugar wax while working, albeit slowly.
:vaped:

I'm trying to follow Ordell Robbie's advice.

Quote:

See I get high later on when I come back, see I get high at NIGHT, when I get through with all my business.




for the time being - gotta get sober to read all this stuff I'm supposed to and attend to the temple

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Re: Quotes Discussion [Re: syncro]
    #28679145 - 02/28/24 03:52 AM (3 months, 26 days ago)

Quote:

syncro said:
Not me! I'm not nibbling on some gasonade sugar wax while working, albeit slowly.
:vaped:

I'm trying to follow Ordell Robbie's advice.

Quote:

See I get high later on when I come back, see I get high at NIGHT, when I get through with all my business.




for the time being - gotta get sober to read all this stuff I'm supposed to and attend to the temple



Solid advice from Ordell Robbie there- I work from home so the looming spectre of THC is ever present. Luckily I find you can sate it for a while with 1 simple trick: getting high.
:rollsafe:
But I do intend on cutting back AGAIN, so my highs get nice and shiny again.
It's the (frequency of) concentrates that take their toll, IMO.
Hope both your working, time at the temple then post work indulgence was up to scratch!

Quote tax:

"If I assume that God is absolute and beyond all human experience, he leaves me cold. I do not affect him, nor does he affect me. But if I know that he is a powerful impulse of my soul, at once I must concern myself with him, for then he can become important, even unpleasantly so, and can affect me in practical ways- which sounds horribly banal, like everything else that is real." Jung.

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Re: Quotes Discussion [Re: Lithop]
    #28679185 - 02/28/24 05:17 AM (3 months, 26 days ago)

The thing about nibbling as opposed to smoking, I can wake up more high in the morning than I was the night before. Maybe a balance with some hair of the dog!

But I did FINALLY finish reading spinvis' quotes. Yeah the danger of working at home - a partner posted a pic of himself sleeping in bed with his cat and laptop captioned, "working at home." Wait I think it's nap time.

Edited by syncro (02/28/24 05:19 AM)

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Re: Quotes Discussion [Re: syncro]
    #28679236 - 02/28/24 06:47 AM (3 months, 26 days ago)

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syncro said:
The thing about nibbling as opposed to smoking, I can wake up more high in the morning than I was the night before. Maybe a balance with some hair of the dog!



:hereyougo:
Absofuckinlutely, easy livin' man!
There's a nice & special quality to a multi-day edible high. I don't get into the edible ROA much at the minute, I ought to make a batch of caps up or something.
No smoke here either though, my daily driver is an arizer dry herb vape. If I'm putting some wax or shatter in I'll make a sandwich like:
______
...plant...
---dab---
...plant...
______

consistant nice rips on 190-220c* for about 15 minutes, or blast it in the 210c*s for less longevity. I try to limit my concentrate use cos after a week or 2 tops, tolerance becomes toast- not as TOAST as frequent dab riggery- but still comes to that fork of slow down or pack more...
Whereas with some actual moderation and self control, you can use the arizer to get an absurdly nice amount of life from the amount of product put in- which is awesome. That's the way the cycle goes, from 'blitzed on a crumb' to 'apathetically stoned on a decadent bowl'.
:shrug:
When I catch myself losing gratitude for the plant, I get dissapointed to have arrived at that and decide to take a short Tbreak.
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syncro said:
But I did FINALLY finish reading spinvis' quotes.



*checks calender- it's still 2024*

:stirthepot:
Quote:

syncro said:
Yeah the danger of working at home - a partner posted a pic of himself sleeping in bed with his cat and laptop captioned, "working at home." Wait I think it's nap time.



True.
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Re: Quotes Discussion [Re: Lithop]
    #28679242 - 02/28/24 07:05 AM (3 months, 26 days ago)

Quote:

Lithop said:
Quote:

syncro said:
But I did FINALLY finish reading spinvis' quotes.



*checks calender- it's still 2024*

:stirthepot:





:lol: :crankey:

Postponing that kind of reading and coming back to it brought recollection of the value, lightening up the insides.

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Re: Quotes Discussion [Re: syncro] * 3
    #28691155 - 03/08/24 07:02 AM (3 months, 17 days ago)

Tonight is Shivaratri, Shiva's night. To stay up all night for it is auspicious, doing whatever is your form of remembrance.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maha_Shivaratri

Reminds again of the old story of the ornery fellow walking through a forest comes across a Shiva murtim (statue) at the base of a tree and gives it a swift kick, the kind of guy he is, and eventually a pack of wolves comes along and he climbs the tree and is trapped there. He curses Shiva, thinking of him all night, and while rustling in the tree, leaves are dropped on Shiva taken as offerings, and I think in the story he inadvertently drops some water on Shiva (offering), and due to this night the man is liberated.

I thought of the story as everyone's situation, being stuck in the tree of the body, and (sometimes) we hate our-Selves (Shiva) for it. So stay up tonight and hate yourself plenty (jk), or however you want to worship. If can't, partial is good too, some thought on your path.

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Re: Quotes Discussion [Re: syncro] * 1
    #28692548 - 03/09/24 10:12 AM (3 months, 16 days ago)

What does it mean to "know thyself" ?


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54. The true nature of things is to be known personally , through the eyes of clear illumination and not through a sage : what the moon exactly is , is to be known with one's own eyes ; can another make him know it?

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Re: Quotes Discussion [Re: connectedcosmos] * 1
    #28692703 - 03/09/24 12:33 PM (3 months, 16 days ago)

I first thought of better knowing satchitananda, particularly bliss. 

Knowing what is our home, our function, strength, peace. I thought of 'home is where the heart is.' So, knowing the heart.

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    #28693369 - 03/10/24 04:37 AM (3 months, 15 days ago)

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connectedcosmos said:
What does it mean to "know thyself" ?



Short answer:

Nisargadatta Maharaj;
Quote:

Meditating on the sense I AM until you realise that I AM is illusory.



Longer answers:

Alan Watts - Out of Your Mind 2 - The Nature of Consciousness (Part 2);
Quote:

And so everybody says, “Alright, know yourself, look within, find out who you are.” Because the harder you look, you won’t be able to find it, and then you’ll realize that it isn’t there at all. There isn’t a separate you. Your mind is what there is; everything. But the only way to find that out is to persist in the state of delusion as hard as possible. That’s one way—I haven’t said the only way, but it is one way.

And so almost all spiritual disciplines—meditations, prayers, et cetera, et cetera—are ways of persisting in folly.



Alan Watts - Do You Do It Or Does It Do You?;
Quote:

You don’t know yourself, because you never can. The Godhead is never an object of its own knowledge, just as a knife doesn’t cut itself, fire doesn’t burn itself, light doesn’t illumine itself. It’s always an endless mystery to itself. I don’t know. And this “I don’t know” uttered in the infinite interior of the spirit, this “I don’t know” is the same thing as “I love,” “I let go,” “I don’t try to force or control.” It’s the same thing as humility. And so the Upanishads say if you think that you understand Brahman, you do not understand and you have yet to be instructed further. If you know that you do not understand, then you truly understand. For the Brahman is unknown to those who know it and known to those who know it not.



Long answers:

Jiddu Krishnamurti - The Book of Life: Daily Meditations with Krishnamurti;
Quote:

The transformation of the world is brought about by the transformation of oneself, because the self is the product and a part of the total process of human existence. To transform oneself, self-knowledge is essential; without knowing what you are, there is no basis for right thought, and without knowing yourself there cannot be transformation. One must know oneself as one is, not as one wishes to be, which is merely an ideal and therefore fictitious, unreal; it is only that which is that can be transformed, not that which you wish to be. To know oneself as one is requires an extraordinary alertness of mind, because what is is constantly undergoing transformation, change; and to follow it swiftly the mind must not be tethered to any particular dogma or belief, to any particular pattern of action. If you would follow anything, it is no good being tethered. To know yourself, there must be the awareness, the alertness of mind in which there is freedom from all beliefs, from all idealization, because beliefs and ideals only give you a color, perverting true perception. If you want to know what you are, you cannot imagine or have belief in something which you are not. If I am greedy, envious, violent, merely having an ideal of non-violence, of non-greed, is of little value…. The understanding of what you are, whatever it be—ugly or beautiful, wicked or mischievous—the understanding of what you are, without distortion, is the beginning of virtue. Virtue is essential, for it gives freedom.



Jiddu Krishnamurti - The Book of Life: Daily Meditations with Krishnamurti;
Quote:

Most of us are satisfied with authority because it gives us a continuity, a certainty, a sense of being protected. But a man who would understand the implications of this deep psychological revolution must be free of authority, must he not? He cannot look to any authority, whether of his own creation or imposed upon him by another. And is this possible? Is it possible for me not to rely on the authority of my own experience? Even when I have rejected all the outward expressions of authority—books, teachers, priests, churches, beliefs—I still have the feeling that at least I can rely on my own judgment, on my own experiences, on my own analysis. But can I rely on my experience, on my judgment, on my analysis? My experience is the result of my conditioning, just as yours is the result of your conditioning, is it not? I may have been brought up as a Muslim or a Buddhist or a Hindu, and my experience will depend on my cultural, economic, social, and religious background, just as yours will. And can I rely on that? Can I rely for guidance, for hope, for the vision which will give me faith in my own judgment, which again is the result of accumulated memories, experiences, the conditioning of the past meeting the present? … Now, when I have put all these questions to myself and I am aware of this problem, I see there can only be one state in which reality, newness, can come into being, which brings about a revolution. That state is when the mind is completely empty of the past, when there is no analyzer, no experience, no judgment, no authority of any kind.



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Re: Quotes Discussion [Re: spinvis] * 1
    #28693465 - 03/10/24 07:50 AM (3 months, 15 days ago)

Caught up with quotes again! This one on the Indra's net, Tu-shun (557-640).

Thoughts in remembrance have tended to become as jewels within, in space, eternal is said. I hadn't thought to connect them as a net. 

To me, the emphasis of all in the one served to cover all of space as one jewel, leaving no gaps, and without, every particle, everyone a jewel. I was praying earlier to be able to see others and myself as God or the Buddhas see us. It hints at the wonder of why so much is given.

It is said space teams with life. I was looking for a quote from the Nag Hammadi - I thought it was in Thunder Mind, something like, "I help the ones unseen ..." And are we not also hidden?

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Re: Quotes Discussion [Re: syncro]
    #28693633 - 03/10/24 09:53 AM (3 months, 15 days ago)

I believe I found the passage you're referring to:

Marvin W. Meyer - The Nag Hammadi Scriptures - Thunder, or Thunder, Perfect Mind;
Quote:

For I am the wisdom [of the] Greeks
and the knowledge of the barbarians.
I am the judgment of Greeks and barbarians.
I am the one whose image is great in Egypt
and who has no image among the barbarians.
I have been hated everywhere and loved everywhere.
I am the one called life,
and you have called me death.
I am the one called law,
and you have called me lawless.
I am one you pursued,
and I am one you seized.
I am one you have scattered,
and you have gathered me together.
I am one before whom you have been ashamed,
and you have been shameless to me.
I am a woman who does not celebrate festivals,
and I am she whose festivals are many.
I, I am godless,
and I have many gods.
I am one you have professed,
and you have scorned me.
I am uneducated,
and people learn from me.
I am one you have despised,
and you profess me.
I am one from whom you have hidden,
and you appear to me.
Whenever you hide, I shall appear.
For [whenever] you [appear], I [shall hide] from you.




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Re: Quotes Discussion [Re: spinvis] * 1
    #28693758 - 03/10/24 11:08 AM (3 months, 15 days ago)

I had seen that and it may be it, but I thought I saw one that talked about helping invisible ones...

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Re: Quotes Discussion [Re: syncro] * 1
    #28693784 - 03/10/24 11:29 AM (3 months, 15 days ago)

There's 392 hits on invisible in the Nag Hammadi. :lol:
No mention of invisible in the Thunder Mind.

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Re: Quotes Discussion [Re: spinvis] * 1
    #28693942 - 03/10/24 01:47 PM (3 months, 15 days ago)

Bring me signs of the Invisible One!

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Re: Quotes Discussion [Re: syncro] * 1
    #28693999 - 03/10/24 02:35 PM (3 months, 15 days ago)

Marvin W. Meyer - The Nag Hammadi Scriptures - The Wisdom of Jesus Christ;
Quote:

“Whoever knows [the Father in pure] knowledge [will depart] to the Father [and be at rest in] the unconceived [Father. Whoever knows him in a defective way] will depart [to what is defective] and experience the rest [that the eighth realm provides]. Let whoever knows the immortal [spirit] of light in silence, through reflection and agreement in truth, bring me signs of the invisible one, and such a person will become a light in the spirit of silence. Let whoever knows the Child of Humanity in knowledge and love bring me a sign of the Child of Humanity, so that such a person may depart to the dwelling places with those in the eighth realm.



Edited by spinvis (03/10/24 02:41 PM)

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Re: Quotes Discussion [Re: spinvis] * 1
    #28694045 - 03/10/24 03:11 PM (3 months, 15 days ago)

This is what I was thinking of:

Three Forms of First Thought (Trimorphic Protennoia)
Quote:

I am the invisible one in all. I counsel those who are hidden, since I know the whole realm of all that exists in it.



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Re: Quotes Discussion [Re: syncro] * 1
    #28694053 - 03/10/24 03:17 PM (3 months, 15 days ago)

I'd never have found that with 'Bring me signs of the Invisible One!'

:crankey:

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