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HazMatt
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HazMatt's cheap and easy instructions for the first time grower! *DELETED*
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Re: HazMatt's cheap and easy instructions for the first time grower! [Re: HazMatt] 3
#28684224 - 03/02/24 05:17 PM (10 months, 10 days ago) |
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SS to premade grain bag?
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Re: HazMatt's cheap and easy instructions for the first time grower! [Re: Mycolorado]
#28684234 - 03/02/24 05:28 PM (10 months, 10 days ago) |
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Mycolorado said: SS to premade grain bag?
Yes. Not what I do any more and not the usual tek around here. But this is for somebody that's brand new. Never grown or had an all in one bag failure perhaps. Somebody on a budget. Somebody unsure if this is a hobby for them. I've invested a lot of money in equipment and my setup. Wasted a lot of money too trying to get started. So, SS to a premade grain bag is a great way for somebody to dip their toes in the water. Doing it right and getting their stuff from good sources, they'll very likely be successful and grow shrooms. A nice yield of shrooms too. What better way to get somebody interested?
If I came in here remotely interested in growing and saw all the stuff about pressure cookers, agar, making grain jars, still air box work etc., it's pretty intimidating. My write up is intended to be cheap and easy as possible for somebody wanting to try it out, with a higher likelihood of success. A step above an all in one bag with more success and a much bigger yield. Of course, I'm open to suggestions on this too or anything that I may have missed or could be improved upon. Also, when somebody out there in the world asks me how I'M doing it, I can point them here with a link to get them started and hopefully hooked on the Shroomery! If they have a better chance of a successful first grow, there's more of a chance they'll dive in further and get into the more advanced tek here. Just my opinion on the matter.
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Re: HazMatt's cheap and easy instructions for the first time grower! [Re: HazMatt] 1
#28684334 - 03/02/24 06:59 PM (10 months, 10 days ago) |
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I am sorry to say that it is probably the first time that I see such bad advice in such a long post. Buying already sterilised grain bags? Shooting a WHOLE mss syringe in one? I can't believe you actually advice people to follow such procedures. You are leading newbies to failure and woes mate. Your advice, your guide in general, is the usual way that newbies go on to follow, and then come here asking what went wrong. A newbie doesn't need expensive equipment, neither agar, nor flow hoods. A newbie just needs to follow the PF Tek, period. PF Tek is easy, fast and reliable when done right, just delete your whole post and replace it with this https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24179086
And remove the part where you suggest getting spores from sponsors with the aim of cultivation, this is prohibited by law, both written and unwritten. I can't believe I saw this post.
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Re: HazMatt's cheap and easy instructions for the first time grower! [Re: HazMatt] 1
#28684340 - 03/02/24 07:02 PM (10 months, 10 days ago) |
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HazMatt said:
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Mycolorado said: SS to premade grain bag?
If I came in here remotely interested in growing and saw all the stuff about pressure cookers, agar, making grain jars, still air box work etc., it's pretty intimidating. My write up is intended to be cheap and easy as possible for somebody wanting to try it out, with a higher likelihood of success.
Your write up is UB Tek in disguise, with some info that actually makes UB a better Tek than what you described, if that is even possible.
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Re: HazMatt's cheap and easy instructions for the first time grower! [Re: Skropi]
#28684392 - 03/02/24 07:44 PM (10 months, 10 days ago) |
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HazMatt said:
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Mycolorado said: SS to premade grain bag?
If I came in here remotely interested in growing and saw all the stuff about pressure cookers, agar, making grain jars, still air box work etc., it's pretty intimidating. My write up is intended to be cheap and easy as possible for somebody wanting to try it out, with a higher likelihood of success.
Your write up is UB Tek in disguise, with some info that actually makes UB a better Tek than what you described, if that is even possible.
I am unfamiliar with UB Tek. I will check it out. My technique has worked for me many times. Every single time. I started out with a couple all in one bags. One worked, one didn’t. Then I bought sterilized grain bags before I started making my own. But I had a 100% success rate with grain bags purchased from reliable vendors online. It’s worked for me. It was cheap and it was easy. In my opinion, it’s a step above buying an all in one bag, when you buy a sterilized grain bag. There’s lots of good Tek out there. I use a lot of it. But a noob isn’t going to just start out doing what you and I are doing. This advice worked for me every time. It will work for somebody else. Get them into it, then they’ll want to get better at it. I have never done PF tek either but can see its appeal. Cheap and easy. This is what I have done and it has worked. Every time.
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Re: HazMatt's cheap and easy instructions for the first time grower! [Re: HazMatt]
#28684400 - 03/02/24 07:51 PM (10 months, 10 days ago) |
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Aah. UB = Uncle Ben’s. My bad. I’ve never done that though.
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Skropi
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Re: HazMatt's cheap and easy instructions for the first time grower! [Re: HazMatt] 1
#28684412 - 03/02/24 08:01 PM (10 months, 10 days ago) |
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It seems that you genuinely believe that your advice is sound, so excuse me for thinking that you were trolling. It is just that every piece of advice in your Tek is just wrong mate. Even if you had success, it was a fluke of the cosmic odds, and nothing that can get repeatable results. Look, first of all, spores to grains is risky business, even when done right, as spores can't really be clean from contamination. Now shooting a whole syringe in a bag is just asking for trouble, 1 ml should be enough. Using grains requires agar, shooting spores is good and dandy, and I do like it, but only when using brf cakes, which are highly resistant to contamination. You are new here, as am I, so just read up first the well established Teks, do try them out to the letter, and then you will be way more equipped to write up a guide. Once again, I am sorry for believing that you were here to troll. Also keep in mind that success is a relative term, so the success that you think you had, could be a failure compared to what experienced growers get.
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Re: HazMatt's cheap and easy instructions for the first time grower! [Re: Skropi] 4
#28684437 - 03/02/24 08:31 PM (10 months, 10 days ago) |
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Yeah afraid this is unfortunately not good advice. I appreciate the effort, but this one should be stayed away from.
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