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Re: Does Marijuana have a degree of evil attached to it? [Re: syncro]
    #28688577 - 03/06/24 11:18 AM (3 months, 19 days ago)

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I recalled just now though, in the spiritism, afterlife books, hell realms are not in the astral but the spirit realms. But I had the center of witness which was untouched as it were, not that it seemed assuring at the time but in that higher thought of being.




Not sure what is meant by “spirit” in that context, but the word “hell” immediately implies a dualistic perspective, right? I mean, one man’s Hell is another man’s Heaven, as they say 😂


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Re: Does Marijuana have a degree of evil attached to it? [Re: Blue Cthulhu]
    #28688626 - 03/06/24 12:06 PM (3 months, 19 days ago)

In that context, there is the astral world and the spirit world still with duality, apparently like the (higher) heavens, and then beyond, the unity, beyond perception, ... corresponding with I assume, the astral or emotional body, then the causal, mental, or spiritual body.

Hell realms similarly, are said to be beyond the astral in the other direction, in either case one has lost the astral body. The unity aspect may correspond with the 'second death' on the low side, a complete recycling I guess.

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Re: Does Marijuana have a degree of evil attached to it? [Re: syncro]
    #28689050 - 03/06/24 05:28 PM (3 months, 19 days ago)

Hmm, sounds like we might back into a discussion of hierarchies.

Would there be any correspondence to the Kabbalistic Tree of Life? My understanding of which is that the "lowest" point on it, Malkhut, is intrinsically connected to the highest point, Keter.

Which also brings to mind the image of the snake eating its tail. Recycling.


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Re: Does Marijuana have a degree of evil attached to it? [Re: syncro] * 1
    #28689416 - 03/06/24 11:38 PM (3 months, 18 days ago)

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In that context, there is the astral world and the spirit world still with duality, apparently like the (higher) heavens, and then beyond, the unity, beyond perception, ... corresponding with I assume, the astral or emotional body, then the causal, mental, or spiritual body.

Hell realms similarly, are said to be beyond the astral in the other direction, in either case one has lost the astral body. The unity aspect may correspond with the 'second death' on the low side, a complete recycling I guess.



I've taken the 7th death..

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Re: Does Marijuana have a degree of evil attached to it? [Re: Blue Cthulhu] * 1
    #28689502 - 03/07/24 03:08 AM (3 months, 18 days ago)

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Hmm, sounds like we might back into a discussion of hierarchies.

Would there be any correspondence to the Kabbalistic Tree of Life? My understanding of which is that the "lowest" point on it, Malkhut, is intrinsically connected to the highest point, Keter.

Which also brings to mind the image of the snake eating its tail. Recycling.




I'm fumbling with this, but it seems generally these systems are not annihilationist, so my choice of words in complete recycling is incorrect. The atman is the one absolute, the atma-buddhi is as the divine person. These are not annihilated in case of the lost soul. The lower manas, lower mind-personality, may lose connection with the higher and buddhi and not be able to rejoin, so the lower manas is lost whereas otherwise it integrates into buddhi and upward.

I know little about Kabbala, but with the Malkhut and Keter it appears to be the same principle, that which is eternal or absolute being present in all levels of manifestation.

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Re: Does Marijuana have a degree of evil attached to it? [Re: BrendanFlock] * 1
    #28689512 - 03/07/24 03:21 AM (3 months, 18 days ago)

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I've taken the 7th death..




Nirvanic?

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Re: Does Marijuana have a degree of evil attached to it? [Re: syncro]
    #28689521 - 03/07/24 04:04 AM (3 months, 18 days ago)

I am working on being able to enter any mental state at will

Heaven, Nirvana, Shambala..

Joy love etc..

Also the Hell realms or realms of suffering..

You just have to remove blocks to your awareness..

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    #28689522 - 03/07/24 04:05 AM (3 months, 18 days ago)

I have a 6th degree blockage as if an iron rod reaches up between the breast plate.

The answer?

Unconditional love!  💘

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Re: Does Marijuana have a degree of evil attached to it? *DELETED* [Re: BrendanFlock]
    #28692098 - 03/08/24 10:01 PM (3 months, 17 days ago)

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Re: Does Marijuana have a degree of evil attached to it? [Re: kittensmittens12]
    #28692103 - 03/08/24 10:05 PM (3 months, 17 days ago)

People can abuse drugs. It doesn’t mean the compound is inherently evil. It sounds like you used it for the wrong reasons.

It isn’t supposed to be used as a psychological crutch. It also isn’t supposed to be obsessed over and made the soul focus of your identity. A lot of people don’t obsessively keep smoking devices with them. They just have them at home and enjoy smoking once in a while.

Just because you had a negative experience with it does not mean it is evil.

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Re: Does Marijuana have a degree of evil attached to it? *DELETED* [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
    #28692107 - 03/08/24 10:10 PM (3 months, 17 days ago)

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Re: Does Marijuana have a degree of evil attached to it? [Re: kittensmittens12]
    #28692116 - 03/08/24 10:17 PM (3 months, 17 days ago)

It sounds like you’ve been around a group of friends, who over indulge in the substance, and make it visibly known that they are potheads.

Maybe don’t consume it if you have such a negative association with it. It’s painted your opinion. You’re very biased about the compound because of your experiences.

That’s my opinion.
I mean no offense.

Maybe try growing it yourself. Then it won’t seem like such a lazy compound. Because a lot of work goes into it.

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Re: Does Marijuana have a degree of evil attached to it? [Re: GenesisCorrupted] * 1
    #28692145 - 03/08/24 10:53 PM (3 months, 16 days ago)

Well in my case MJ makes me better at Smash Borthers Melee..

I smoke with buds and we have a good time..

But in other circles like my poker game I make sure to not smoke that much cuz ill get a paranoid knot.. and I feel loss..

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Re: Does Marijuana have a degree of evil attached to it? [Re: BrendanFlock]
    #28692161 - 03/08/24 11:06 PM (3 months, 16 days ago)

I didn’t know you played poker.
Texas hold em?

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Re: Does Marijuana have a degree of evil attached to it? [Re: GenesisCorrupted] * 1
    #28692254 - 03/09/24 12:58 AM (3 months, 16 days ago)

Yup, I'm a poker adept..

Scan the cards,

Scan your opponents..

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Re: Does Marijuana have a degree of evil attached to it? [Re: BrendanFlock] * 1
    #28692259 - 03/09/24 01:07 AM (3 months, 16 days ago)

Also an avid game theorist..

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Re: Does Marijuana have a degree of evil attached to it? [Re: BrendanFlock]
    #28692260 - 03/09/24 01:09 AM (3 months, 16 days ago)

I play all of the games.
I’m up to two people. If we can get three more, we could have one proper shroomery poker club.

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Re: Does Marijuana have a degree of evil attached to it? [Re: kittensmittens12] * 2
    #28698122 - 03/13/24 05:02 PM (3 months, 12 days ago)

My cannabis use escalated during the pandemic. I noticed some ill effects from this, and changed my patterns. I currently have a self-imposed "rule" of using it no more than two days per week. For me, this works very well. It keeps my tolerance down, so that when I DO partake, the high is much better. When I used more regularly in the past, it would lose its more interesting, psychedelic properties, and the body high was less pleasurable. Now, it feels like a real treat, well-deserved after a week of working hard. I think about the events of the week from a different perspective, have insights, learn how to let go of things. Overall, the cannabis spirit seems very positive, maternal and nurturing.

But don't let yourself be coddled! Unless you need some coddling. We all do sometimes.



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Re: Does Marijuana have a degree of evil attached to it? [Re: Blue Cthulhu]
    #28698357 - 03/13/24 08:43 PM (3 months, 12 days ago)

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My cannabis use escalated during the pandemic. I noticed some ill effects from this, and changed my patterns. I currently have a self-imposed "rule" of using it no more than two days per week. For me, this works very well. It keeps my tolerance down, so that when I DO partake, the high is much better. When I used more regularly in the past, it would lose its more interesting, psychedelic properties, and the body high was less pleasurable. Now, it feels like a real treat, well-deserved after a week of working hard. I think about the events of the week from a different perspective, have insights, learn how to let go of things. Overall, the cannabis spirit seems very positive, maternal and nurturing.

But don't let yourself be coddled! Unless you need some coddling. We all do sometimes.





I don't have the stamina for such things, but good for you!

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