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seeking ritual for "knowing my life path" trip tomorrow... * 1
    #28670607 - 02/21/24 11:04 PM (4 months, 3 days ago)

I haven't had the right situation come together to partake in mushrooms again in 3 months, but the wifie is away for 4 days and I'm off of work (temporarily retired cancer survivor).  I'm also motivated to open up to a higher dose because I feel like I have so many things to be thankful that my medical situation is looking better.  I want to plan a ritual this Thurs (tomorrow) with 3g of PNats and another on Sat with 2g of APE that I grew myself.  I usually make a tea or use lemon tek for smoothing things out, I'm feeling like I will try tea to help the trip last longer.

I am seeking my trip to better know what I should do with my life now that it looks like I might have more time around here.  I am asking for some vision to help me see my options deeply.  My doses are just my  estimate and open to change given input from this thread.  In the past 6 months I've taken < 1.5g PNats and <1g APE a few times.

What is your advice fellow psychonauts for a ritual or inspiration for a quest like this based on your experiences for someone in my situation (as much as I've shared)?

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Re: seeking ritual for "knowing my life path" trip tomorrow... [Re: becomingStillness] * 1
    #28670617 - 02/21/24 11:11 PM (4 months, 3 days ago)

Tea is usually similar duration to lemon tek for me.
Eating them on an empty stomach should make it last a bit longer.
I personally have been really enjoying the condensed ark of the lemon tek trip.
Your doses sound good to me. Although your second trip might be dulled from tolerance.

Glad to hear your cancer battle is going well.
Safe journey to you!


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Re: seeking ritual for "knowing my life path" trip tomorrow... [Re: becomingStillness] * 3
    #28670630 - 02/21/24 11:29 PM (4 months, 3 days ago)

part of the ritual is making your place safe and clean.
minimalism makes sense as does having a shrine area with images or objects representative of beloved family members
in otherwords, 1. a clear area without triggering iconography (where new seeds of ideas can form)
and 2. a binding area, were connections (good ones) are waiting to be accessed.
being able to move freely between these, and to turn away from these fixed notions to nature as it is (a 3rd place that is what it is, and is beautiful in its own way just the same).

These are not necessarily ritual, or these are concepts at the root of all ritual, but I would not recommend more artifice than this, as the entheogen mind has little patience for pretense.


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Re: seeking ritual for "knowing my life path" trip tomorrow... [Re: redgreenvines] * 2
    #28670826 - 02/22/24 04:50 AM (4 months, 2 days ago)

Let me begin by saying I’m new to ritual myself, I have been looking into Native American ceremonies to bring more intentionality and humility to my life. One of the things that is repeatedly brought up is that while having a framework for a ceremony is important, it’s more important that the specific aspects of the ceremony mean something to you, rather than that they mimick another culture’s ceremony. Thoughtful and personal intention is the goal here. You want it to feel powerful and meaningful to you. If you put enough intention and effort in before the ritual, you will get more out of it. Like priming your mind, body and physical space for the experience. Here is a quick framework you can take and make your own…

- thoughtfully cleaning your space, and maybe using sage or incense to cleanse the space if you’d like. I like to have calming or beautiful music playing while I do this.
- bring and set up items that ground you and or remind you of your intention. Some people make an alter for this, but whatever is meaningful to you will work. Use items that remind you of your values, family, and goals in life. This will help you keep focus as you journey.
- a lot of traditions will make an offering or sacrament. Usually in the form of tobacco spread around the area you want to keep sacred. You can use anything natural and biodegradable that means something to you though. I use coffee and cinnamon, or jasmine rice as those have significance for me.
- Meditate, pray or reflect on your intention before consumption of the sacrament. Be humble. The idea is you want to prepare your mind to receive any inspiration/advice you can.  Once you’ve put it out there, you want to stop dwelling on it. Let the answer come as it will. Let the experience show you what you need without your waking minds input.
- always express gratitude for the medicine and any lessons you will receive. We really are lucky to have access to such an amazing, healing medicine. I usually say a quick prayer of gratitude before consumption and ask directly for the plants insights and help.
-After your experience, write down everything you can recall, consider making art or music. Anything you can do to record or express your feelings and lessons learned will make the integration much easier. We also can forget a lot of what happens when we return to our waking minds so recording it while it’s fresh is important.

Hope this is helpful and hope that you find the guidance your looking for:-)

Edited by Goodlife0209 (02/22/24 05:42 AM)

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Re: seeking ritual for "knowing my life path" trip tomorrow... [Re: becomingStillness] * 1
    #28670905 - 02/22/24 06:17 AM (4 months, 2 days ago)

Investigate how you are now.

That's what I'd do.


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Re: seeking ritual for "knowing my life path" trip tomorrow... [Re: becomingStillness] * 1
    #28670962 - 02/22/24 07:31 AM (4 months, 2 days ago)

Set an intention, but not an expectation. As for a ritual, I enjoy tying incense in with my trips. I use a particular scent when I'm tripping; the same one every time. When I'm sober and burn that incense, it brings me back to that headspace a little bit. Same goes for music. Honestly, there are a ton of good suggestions above. Enjoy your flight.


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Death with consciousness can be boring. Balance is important. Set intentions, not expectations. Sad trips can be helpful as well as challenging trips. Stick with your first dose. We learn more when we listen rather than speak. Be kind. The small moments in life that tend to go unnoticed are sometimes the most beautiful.

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Re: seeking ritual for "knowing my life path" trip tomorrow... [Re: Orioncat]
    #28671015 - 02/22/24 08:22 AM (4 months, 2 days ago)

Good suggestions here but I’ll add if I try to specifically understand or figure something out it’s a dead end. Resistance due to force.

I have always wondered around. Looked at things and done whatever I felt. Because the first time I tried to stay in my dark room playing the perfect background music, meditate and being super deeply spiritual like I was going to levitate and be bombarded with all this understanding…. I learned to do whatever I want without expecting anything, and go with the flow. On mushrooms you don’t steer the ship.

This last time after I have been having a lot of un enjoyable or lack luster pointless journeys, I simply laid in bed. It was quite enjoyable. Really went deeply within and had some understandings about me and life. Next time I plan to do the same thing but I’m being cautious not to force it and try to recreate last time or I’ll get the same resistance due to force. It was really enjoyable though. I’d get up to pee or open my eyes and take off the face mask for a bit…. But I’d get right back to it. Loved it.

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Re: seeking ritual for "knowing my life path" trip tomorrow... [Re: PancyanterA]
    #28671183 - 02/22/24 10:09 AM (4 months, 2 days ago)

I recommend Terrance McKenna's 6 hours of silent darkness. Just lay on your bed and keep your eyes closed.

Wish you the best. :smile:

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Re: seeking ritual for "knowing my life path" trip tomorrow... [Re: PancyanterA]
    #28671297 - 02/22/24 12:10 PM (4 months, 2 days ago)

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PancyanterA said:
Good suggestions here but I’ll add if I try to specifically understand or figure something out it’s a dead end. Resistance due to force.


This right here. Once you speak your intention at the beginning of the ceremony, don’t think about it again. As long as your thinking mind ( part of the problem most times) is still trying to tackle your issues, you won’t be able to hear, see, feel or otherwise recognize the answer when it comes.

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Re: seeking ritual for "knowing my life path" trip tomorrow... [Re: Goodlife0209] * 1
    #28671405 - 02/22/24 01:33 PM (4 months, 2 days ago)

Sage advice here OP.

I really liked these bitsof Goodlife0209’s post.
(Sorry GL to pull it apart a bit)

Quote:

Goodlife0209 said:
One of the things that is repeatedly brought up is that while having a framework for a ceremony is important, it’s more important that the specific aspects of the ceremony mean something to you, rather than that they mimick another culture’s ceremony. Thoughtful and personal intention is the goal here. You want it to feel powerful and meaningful to you. If you put enough intention and effort in before the ritual, you will get more out of it. Like priming your mind, body and physical space for the experience.


- bring and set up items that ground you and or remind you of your intention. Some people make an alter for this, but whatever is meaningful to you will work. Use items that remind you of your values, family, and goals in life. This will help you keep focus as you journey.


- Meditate, pray or reflect on your intention before
consumption of the sacrament. Be humble. The idea is you want to prepare your mind to receive any inspiration/advice you can.  Once you’ve put it out there, you want to stop dwelling on it. Let the answer come as it will. Let the experience show you what you need without your waking minds input.

- always express gratitude for the medicine and any lessons you will receive. We really are lucky to have access to such an amazing, healing medicine. I usually say a quick prayer of gratitude before consumption and ask directly for the plants insights and help. 





Ritual should be deeply personal, so personal in fact that anyone else wouldn’t be able to make rhyme or reason out of it (unless you are part of a culture with established tradition)

My ways, and my rituals along with their accompanying items are a fluid set of experiences and and emotional attached items that I’ve gathered along my path.
It’s okay to start slow with no end goal
It’s okay to change your mind
It’s okay to take inspiration from other cultures and techniques you may come across but don’t simply emulate them.
Finding your own way is the most powerful way.


I do want to say, given that your second date falls on the full moon-
If your location and weather conditions allow, seek to watch the full moon set on Saturday morning, it will be setting very close to sunrise.
It’s an amazing energetic moment in time/space to watch the sun go up as the full moon comes down.
If at all possible over the ocean is spectacular.
Probably the single strongest natural moment I have had the pleasure to experience.
I look forward to it every year in winter when the sky is clear and temps cold enough to see it.

I’ll be out there on the beach this Saturday morning too, Tripping under the full moon setting.

Anyway,
Hope you find what you’re looking for,
Safe tripping.


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Re: seeking ritual for "knowing my life path" trip tomorrow... [Re: Soloist]
    #28676411 - 02/26/24 12:13 AM (3 months, 30 days ago)

Thank you all for your thoughtful suggestions, much appreciated!  I was a bit nervous trying them this round so I took less each trip than planned but I felt safer (it's only my 4th trip).  I felt comfortable exploring my experience and have been journaling.  Each session had a different character and I really appreciated the comment pointing our the 'Snow Moon' energy for Saturday!  I lemontek'd the APEs but they gave me bad cramps for a while.  The visuals were the coolest that I have seen - very strange fractals with wild colors, teeth, eyes and glyphs moving with APEs compared with the more electric colored lightning and clouds of the Nats.  I had the experience like opening the hood to my head and looking inside my own mind. It was like looking through a transparent layer to see different thoughts juggling below the normally opaque surface of my brain waiting to 'win out' and become the next thought I had or decision on what word I would write in my journal to describe something.  This felt like a level of transparency that I'd not noticed before when meditating with "mindfulness of thoughts".  My second session was much more strange and fun once the cramps subsided.  I ended up dosing another gram of Nats and dancing to the trip track I was listening to late into the night.  I joked to myself that I was a 54-yeard old man hosting his own rave :wink: The joy of life!  After this weekend, I feel a renewed comfort with our mushie friends.  I have to say that it's nice to be back to mostly normal mind again to work toward the insights that came up.

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Re: seeking ritual for "knowing my life path" trip tomorrow... [Re: becomingStillness]
    #28676669 - 02/26/24 08:34 AM (3 months, 29 days ago)

:congrats:


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Re: seeking ritual for "knowing my life path" trip tomorrow... [Re: becomingStillness]
    #28676692 - 02/26/24 08:52 AM (3 months, 29 days ago)

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becomingStillness said:
Thank you all for your thoughtful suggestions, much appreciated!  I was a bit nervous trying them this round so I took less each trip than planned but I felt safer (it's only my 4th trip).  I felt comfortable exploring my experience and have been journaling.  Each session had a different character and I really appreciated the comment pointing our the 'Snow Moon' energy for Saturday!  I lemontek'd the APEs but they gave me bad cramps for a while.  The visuals were the coolest that I have seen - very strange fractals with wild colors, teeth, eyes and glyphs moving with APEs compared with the more electric colored lightning and clouds of the Nats.  I had the experience like opening the hood to my head and looking inside my own mind. It was like looking through a transparent layer to see different thoughts juggling below the normally opaque surface of my brain waiting to 'win out' and become the next thought I had or decision on what word I would write in my journal to describe something.  This felt like a level of transparency that I'd not noticed before when meditating with "mindfulness of thoughts".  My second session was much more strange and fun once the cramps subsided.  I ended up dosing another gram of Nats and dancing to the trip track I was listening to late into the night.  I joked to myself that I was a 54-yeard old man hosting his own rave :wink: The joy of life!  After this weekend, I feel a renewed comfort with our mushie friends.  I have to say that it's nice to be back to mostly normal mind again to work toward the insights that came up.

bS





Mindfulness of thoughts can go deep too, but it is a lot more subtle without some light (psilocybin, dmt, etc).  Which is why the Buddha suggested learning to calm the body and mind to tap into those subtle energies.

I get the most out of combining them and using moderate amounts of light so that I don't get distracted by body tension or closed eye visuals.  P. Bisporus have been the best for this for me, but from what I've read about Subtropicals that would probably be another good one.

Grats on finding that level of transparency either way!  I find that mushrooms inform my practice and my practice informs my journeys.

I did want to mention something about intention.  I agree that going with the flow is the ultimate intention.  Letting go is the peak of mindfulness practice (the last step of mindfulness of breathing is breathing in, I observe letting go).  That said, we can be aware of things that we're hanging onto and use both mushrooms and mindfulness to explore those feelings with equanimity.

In my own case, I took a small dose of tampenesis last night before bed as I've been having fear of sleep due to trauma.  Using mindfulness meditation and the mushrooms I was able to dream last night without having a full-blown nightmare for the first time in several months.  Even talked about my feelings around my nightmares, in the dream I was having this morning :smile:  Restarted dream journaling, and I feel that my fear is finally feeling heard rather than being subconsciously repressed.

I guess journaling will become my new ritual, or at least, another tool in my box to help me understand myself better.


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