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OfflineRusty
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Trip sitters are they really nessecary?
    #2867449 - 07/08/04 02:48 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Hi again! I'm going to be doing some lsd soon and I'm wondering, how badly do I need a trip sitter? Will I leap out of a window thinking I can fly without one?


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Re: Trip sitters are they really nessecary? [Re: Rusty]
    #2867478 - 07/08/04 03:00 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

there more for salvia or DMT. where reality is slipped from underneath your feet and you land in outer space(or sharp or hot bowl)


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Re: Trip sitters are they really nessecary? [Re: the man]
    #2867490 - 07/08/04 03:06 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

It'd be a good idea for your first time, just to be safe. A good friend.


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Re: Trip sitters are they really nessecary? [Re: LoneDeranger]
    #2867496 - 07/08/04 03:09 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

yea forsure. better safe then sorry. for soem reason i thougth youve done it before.


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Re: Trip sitters are they really nessecary? [Re: Rusty]
    #2867609 - 07/08/04 04:22 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Dude the only time I suggest you have to have a trip sitter is, when your doing it for the first time. Or if your going to try to take a high dosage. Besides that if you have tripped before you know whats going to happen. So I figure you should be ok by yourself. I have tripped alone many times even...


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Re: Trip sitters are they really nessecary? [Re: Rusty]
    #2867649 - 07/08/04 05:00 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

What they said. LSD is fairly safe to do by yourself at low doses if you've done it before.

Anything that hits you really hard and fast requires a sitter. So do the deliriants, such and dramamine and datura.


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Re: Trip sitters are they really nessecary? [Re: Kasumeat]
    #2867671 - 07/08/04 05:15 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Most hits I have taken, and tripped by myself. Were like 6, or two gels. Of course, I have tripped on acid sooooo many times...


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Re: Trip sitters are they really nessecary? [Re: Rusty]
    #2867865 - 07/08/04 07:44 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

I wouldn't recommend a trip sitter unless you are unstable.  As said above DMT/Salvia (I didn't have one when I experimented with it)/other tryptamines I would want somebody there for support if nothing else because of the extreme blast into the hyperdimension.  You should be fine.  As to the "will I leap out of a window" comment, I don't know, will you?    :smirk:


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Re: Trip sitters are they really nessecary? [Re: Rusty]
    #2867870 - 07/08/04 07:51 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Having a tripsitter is a great idea. especially since its more fun with a friend :P


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Re: Trip sitters are they really nessecary? [Re: Anonymous]
    #2867900 - 07/08/04 08:23 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

a trip sitter is essential (on the periphery) when you have entered level 6 - you could easily wander outside naked and try to eat moving cars.
unpredictible events can be better managed with a sitter on the periphery.

for salvia there are only about 3-6 minutes at the beginning when the sitter needs to be mindful of your delicate state.

sitters do not need to be in the same room.


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Re: Trip sitters are they really nessecary? [Re: Rusty]
    #2867910 - 07/08/04 08:30 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

I've never used a trip sitter and I've never done anything stupid...but if I ever did dmt or salvia I would use one


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Re: Trip sitters are they really nessecary? [Re: Rusty]
    #2867947 - 07/08/04 09:09 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

I had a trip sitter the first time I ever did mushrooms...I don't think I'd ever need one again on mushrooms or LSD (unless it's a concert situation where I might want a sober friend around just to deal with confusion.)

But lordy lord, if you ever take Salvia, have someone who's real nice and good around...I had a mind-ripping fear-of-God experience and if it hadn't been for my friend Matt, well, I would have come back, but probably would have been way more confused.


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Re: Trip sitters are they really nessecary? [Re: Rusty]
    #2868041 - 07/08/04 10:12 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Few substances are ever going to get you to a non-toxic psychedellic state equivalent to the potential of salvia divinorum except LSD.

You can survive the level 6-amnesiac states, with 100% healthy body and mind restored in minutes, and you can achieve severe entheogenation like this fairly easily, even accidentally if using lots of extract.

Most other substances will make you physically sick much earlier than level 6.

At Level 6 the overlay trails of experience and memory are so thick you have no ability whatsoever to determine what is actually going on. NONE.

It is a short lived experience. On any other substance you would probably be cramping or vomiting for hours and that would ground you.

Salvia, at level six, is like an indefensible laser beam that will cut the machismo inclined person at the knees and then the fun begins.

I do reccommend a sitter, at least until you get your dosing right and then again each time you get new stuff. Personally I like to tell my wife to watch over from the next room for a few minutes. It is effortless for her. Also I think level 4 or 5 is plenty.

For LSD you need to be looked over for ~2 hours after the first 45 minutes. again it is dosage dependent.


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Re: Trip sitters are they really nessecary? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #2868120 - 07/08/04 10:45 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah, you should really have a sitter when you try new drugs until you are comfortable enough with the drug to do it alone or in a less secure location.


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Re: Trip sitters are they really nessecary? [Re: Rusty]
    #2868123 - 07/08/04 10:46 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

If you think you can fly, try to fly off the ground first :smile: i never did get why someone would jump off a building to see if they could fly but i don't even know if that actually ever happened because it started circulating the same time as chromosone damage, the spine shit, and arsnic myths


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Re: Trip sitters are they really nessecary? [Re: John]
    #2868188 - 07/08/04 11:05 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

And then there were the people who went blind staring at the sun while on LSD.

I've heard this story a lot. Probably a myth.


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Re: Trip sitters are they really nessecary? [Re: John]
    #2868196 - 07/08/04 11:08 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

John said:
If you think you can fly, try to fly off the ground first :smile: i never did get why someone would jump off a building to see if they could fly





Hahahaha!


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Re: Trip sitters are they really nessecary? [Re: Rusty]
    #2868305 - 07/08/04 11:37 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

If it is your first trip. Get a sitter for sure.


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Re: Trip sitters are they really nessecary? [Re: Rusty]
    #2868360 - 07/08/04 11:53 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

i tripped with another guy for our first times. was alot of fun with someone else.


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