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Anonymous #13

Re: Am I trans-phobic? [Re: Anonymous #1] * 1
    #28676712 - 02/26/24 09:14 AM (3 months, 28 days ago)

I think you are allowed to think it's weird or gross.

Your not allowed to hate or harm them. But you don't have to pretend someone is "stunning and brave" because they are a woman with a beard.

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Anonymous #14

Re: Am I trans-phobic? [Re: Anonymous #13]
    #28677783 - 02/27/24 05:59 AM (3 months, 27 days ago)

It's the same as flamboyant gay people, why the need to be over the top?

Just exist like everyone else and let's all just get on with life.

There's a trans dude at the local grocer and he always looks well dressed and what I would consider fabulous.
I've even told him that as well, there's nothing wrong with acting normal and still being trans.

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Anonymous #11

Re: Am I trans-phobic? [Re: Anonymous #12]
    #28679526 - 02/28/24 11:20 AM (3 months, 26 days ago)

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Anonymous #12 said:
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Anonymous #11 said:
It's almost like there is more proof that someone is actually not the gender that they grew the reproductive system for than there is that proves the world is flat, or round for that matter....





Except there is evidence. For a start you're ignoring their own preferences and thoughts. But more importantly you're ignoring scientific evidence that transgender females have parts of their brain more closely resembling a female brain. So in some ways trans people physically do have the brain of the gender that they identify as.





I'm not ignoring anything. I'm also not ready to consider other's opinions as facts. Just because a large group of people (or small group) claim a set of opinions are facts doesn't make it so, it's like believing that Biden got more legitimate votes than Obama, you can claim there is evidence of that, but we all know deep in our hearts it just isn't true.

Just like being born with a penis and testicles, you can claim you are not male, but the reality is that you are, cutting off your balls and taking drugs doesn't change the fact you are male, it can disguises it tho.

I can claim to be the queen of England, if enough people tell me I'm the queen of England I might believe it, they might believe it, but I'm still not the legitimate queen of England.

Not that I care who wants to do what with their own body, it's their body they have the natural right to do what they like with it, but I also have the natural right to think what I want.

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Anonymous #15

Re: Am I trans-phobic? [Re: Anonymous #11] * 1
    #28679568 - 02/28/24 11:45 AM (3 months, 26 days ago)

"Homophobia" was the source term for "transphobia."

The initial idea being that it went beyond hating a particular person, or even just not liking them, to actually being afraid that the group of people in question could take over and "turn everyone gay." Or "try to make you gay." For the classic stereotypical homophobe, getting hit on by a gay dude is the equivalent of sexual harassment or attempted rape. And there is absolutely an element of real fear, but typically more on a societal level.

There have been "trans" people for thousands of years, and/or for at least as long as human societies have had culturally entrenched gender roles. I honestly find some elements of the current trend distasteful. It reminds me a bit of some of the lesbians I knew in college who almost certainly are married with two kids now. It just feels like there are a lot of entitled white men who are now able to conquer the boss level of the oppression Olympics: being a trans woman. I'm not talking about everyone here, but I am definitely talking about people like Bruce/Caitlyn Jenner. And this whole thing has become an absurd political football. Pro and against are both cheap talking points that politicians and corporations can use to virtue signal without actually doing anything of value or substance. And that naturally will cause at least some kids to jump on the bandwagon on either side, regardless of how they feel deep down. Personally, though, I would like to see the abolition of extreme gender roles and specific pigeonholes, and so almost all of the current debate seems counter-intuitive to me. But also, yeah, confused young people with penises who are suffering from both mental illness and a strong sense of entitlement do tend to get on my nerves. Especially when they become the default spokespeople for individuals who don't fully present as their birth gender.

I guess by the definition of homophobia listed above, there are plenty of people who would call me trans-phobic. I do resent that characterization, though. I'm ultimately just annoyed, not afraid or hate-filled. And it's probably fueled, in part, by long-term exposure to various queer spaces and communities, such that this new trend just feels kind of dumb and contrived and new-school to me. But hey, if the culmination is private bathroom stalls in all public restrooms, I'll take it lol

I do bear active ill will and prejudice for the religious fundamentalists who actively judge and persecute people for their personal decisions.

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Anonymous #3

Re: Am I trans-phobic? [Re: Anonymous #1] * 2
    #28679689 - 02/28/24 01:23 PM (3 months, 26 days ago)

Transphobia is not a phobia as defined in clinical psychology (i.e., an anxiety disorder). Its meaning and usage parallels xenophobia.[16] The noun transphobe denotes someone who harbors transphobia. The adjectival form transphobic may be used to describe a transphobe or their actions. The words transphobia and transphobic were added to the Oxford English Dictionary in 2013.[17]

It has been argued that transmisia, with the suffix -misia meaning "hatred", would be a more accurate term, because transphobia is more about hatred of than about fear of transgender people. - Wikipedia.

Personally I don't have strong opinions towards trans people none of them ever done me wrong. I can't speak for trans people but I'll guess that not all of them are trying to force their beliefs on others but it does look like alot of them want society to accept their beliefs but they don't want to accept other people's beliefs. It's like a Christian and a Muslim arguing about God they both think they are correct but won't respect the other person's opinions.
They say I believe I'm a woman I say I believe your a man let's agree to disagree and move on. It should just be about what people believe in persuit of truth not just an excuse to hate on somone because of their beliefs.

Edited by Anonymous (02/28/24 01:58 PM)

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Anonymous #16

Re: Am I trans-phobic? [Re: Anonymous #3]
    #28691366 - 03/08/24 11:21 AM (3 months, 17 days ago)

I don't see why it would matter to anyone whether someone is transgender or not, judge their character before anything else. There's too much hate in the world already for us to add more unnecessarily.

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Anonymous #11

Re: Am I trans-phobic? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #28691392 - 03/08/24 11:35 AM (3 months, 17 days ago)

Have you ever had a good buzz going while you were downtown Vegas and let a chick take you to her hotel room to suck you off, passed out and then woke up next to a dude dressed like a woman?


Because that might cause transphobia...

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Anonymous #17

Re: Am I trans-phobic? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #28691414 - 03/08/24 11:44 AM (3 months, 17 days ago)

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Anonymous #1 said:
If I don't like transgenders?




It depends upon what you mean by dislike and how it manifests itself. When I see, or, finally realize the person is a transgender, I experience a momentary sense of shock and maybe even a little involuntary disgust, honestly.

This doesn’t mean I’d ever support policy that attempts to rob a transgender of their autonomy or harm them in any way. Personally, I would never discriminate against a transgender person or try to inflict emotional or physical pain on one.

Transgenders are probably as physiologically and psychologically inclined to be who they are as I am to be a heterosexual man who doesn’t have gender dysphoria or whatever.

So, no, I don’t think a gut level dislike for transgenders necessarily makes you transphobic.

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Anonymous #18

Re: Am I trans-phobic? [Re: Anonymous #16] * 1
    #28723681 - 04/02/24 05:43 PM (2 months, 23 days ago)

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Anonymous #13 said:
I think you are allowed to think it's weird or gross.

Your not allowed to hate or harm them. But you don't have to pretend someone is "stunning and brave" because they are a woman with a beard.




This. I even disagree on the hate part: Even though it may be morally wrong, people are free to hate whoever they want to (even as wrong as it may be). I personally think that it would be wrong. But you are most definitely not allowed to harm or deny them rights, though. And that should go for any race, sex, religion, etc.

That should go without saying.

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Anonymous #16 said:
I don't see why it would matter to anyone whether someone is transgender or not, judge their character before anything else. There's too much hate in the world already for us to add more unnecessarily.




I also agree with this. I'm sure there's plenty of transgenders worth hating once you get to know them -- just like there are plenty of people in any race/religion/culture that are worth hating (simply because bad people exist in every single sect of society on this earth).

But hating them right off the bat before you know them as people, well, yeah that's fucked up.

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Anonymous #19

Re: Am I trans-phobic? [Re: Anonymous #18]
    #28723701 - 04/02/24 06:09 PM (2 months, 23 days ago)

Transphobic is just a word that limp wristed pansies use to try to convince themselves that anyone in the world might possibly be afraid of them, it also serves to easily dismiss their opinions about their obvious insanity and prevents them from feeling like they may need to actually answer any questions pertaining to the issue

Kind of like when someone is being shitty to someone else and they claim "oh your just jealous" or some other bullshit

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Anonymous #15

Re: Am I trans-phobic? [Re: Anonymous #19] * 2
    #28723881 - 04/02/24 08:49 PM (2 months, 23 days ago)

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Anonymous #19 said:
limp wristed pansies




What, trying to get maximum mileage out of that thesaurus of middle school slurs you bought on Etsy?

I believe the phrase you used here would typically be associated with the word "fag."

And yet, I've had and overheard more conversations with gay men about this topic than anyone else. Many old-school gay dudes are somewhat puzzled by the latest developments. They were never confused about being men who fuck other men.

Yes, human nature being what it is, there will always be someone ready to hurl accusations of bigotry when things don't go their way. Also, people who have experienced bigotry, or even just feel out of their element, will sometimes read into a negative encounter and assume the worst. I've seen and experienced this in every concievable direction.

Yeah, it sucks being called a transphobe when you just expressed an opinion, and/or didn't really do anything wrong. It still sucks way more, for instance, to be beaten to death for showing up in the wrong place looking the wrong way.

Edited by Anonymous (04/02/24 08:49 PM)

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Anonymous #8

Re: Am I trans-phobic? [Re: Anonymous #15]
    #28723978 - 04/02/24 11:49 PM (2 months, 23 days ago)

Im curious what gay men think of Transmen. Would they bang? ive seen some photos of nude Transmen online and they are very convincing.

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Anonymous #20

Re: Am I trans-phobic? [Re: Anonymous #15]
    #28724074 - 04/03/24 04:52 AM (2 months, 22 days ago)

#15 flexing that false equivalency muscle. Are you white? You're a Nazi and you probably hate Jews. You may as well have killed Jews because you're white. You deserve to be called a Nazi because I feel bad for Jews.

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Anonymous #3

Re: Am I trans-phobic? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #28725841 - 04/04/24 12:54 PM (2 months, 21 days ago)

If a man were to transition into a transwoman and then transition back to being a man, does that make him a transtransman or just a man?

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Anonymous #5

Re: Am I trans-phobic? [Re: Anonymous #3]
    #28725843 - 04/04/24 12:55 PM (2 months, 21 days ago)

Would make them a human.

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Anonymous #8

Re: Am I trans-phobic? [Re: Anonymous #3]
    #28726029 - 04/04/24 03:54 PM (2 months, 21 days ago)

I think that would be an Ex-Transgendered male.

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Anonymous #21

Re: Am I trans-phobic? [Re: Anonymous #8]
    #28767362 - 05/09/24 12:29 AM (1 month, 18 days ago)

I'm homophobic, transphobic, LGBTQRSTUVphobic. Don't care.

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Anonymous #5

Re: Am I trans-phobic? [Re: Anonymous #21] * 1
    #28767410 - 05/09/24 02:55 AM (1 month, 18 days ago)

You need to eat more LSD. Your mind's a bit off.

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Anonymous #19

Re: Am I trans-phobic? [Re: Anonymous #21]
    #28767569 - 05/09/24 07:24 AM (1 month, 17 days ago)

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Anonymous #21 said:
I'm homophobic, transphobic, LGBTQRSTUVphobic. Don't care.




What is it exactly that your a scared of? Do you think it's contagious? Or do you think they're gonna rape you?

Personally, I don't fear them. I just have a seething hate for them. Probably because they're different than me and that's what papa taught me to feel about people that aren't like me

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Anonymous #22

Re: Am I trans-phobic? [Re: Anonymous #19]
    #28770057 - 05/10/24 11:47 PM (1 month, 16 days ago)

They are scared of everything that the little orange man told them to be scared of.
:begger:

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