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Micro dosing while tapering off antidepressants 1
#28665088 - 02/18/24 08:11 AM (4 months, 6 days ago) |
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I've been searching here, and on the Internet about this topic, with very little luck. I'm taking 2 different antidepressants, one for serotonin re-up take inhibitor, and the other a dopamine re-up take inhibitor. I've gone through all the antidepressants, over 30 years, and tapered off twice. Each time I tapered off, I had severe withdrawals. I was hoping to try psylosybin micro dosing, while tapering off, so that the psilysibin/psylocin could replace the serotonin/dopamine lost by tapering off the meds. I'd appreciate any incite from those with actual experience, and not "opinions" from those without some experience. I'm aware, that psylosybin has minimal effects, while on antidepressants, as they both target the same receptors, but hopefully by adding back in some drugs (psylosybin), while removing other drugs (antidepressants), I might avoid the withdrawal symptoms. Again, I'm interested in knowledge, not opinions. Thanks, in advance
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Re: Micro dosing while tapering off antidepressants [Re: miazmagic]
#28665182 - 02/18/24 09:19 AM (4 months, 6 days ago) |
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Sorry I don’t have much info to share, but I do have a friend who started micro-dosing to get off their SSRI’s and it took some months but they are totally off them now. They say micro-dosing really helped them. I think they mentioned they also took lion’s mane supplements as well, but I’m not sure if it was for the same reason.
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Re: Micro dosing while tapering off antidepressants [Re: Triskelope]
#28665350 - 02/18/24 11:00 AM (4 months, 6 days ago) |
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I've also been on lion's Mane for a couple months. I learned that continuous use caused some cloudy brain effects, so I now only take the lion's Mane on weekdays...giving my brain a few days rest...seems to help. I may wait until I'm fully off the NDRI meds before I titrate off the SSRI. At that time, I would start the micro dosing.
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Re: Micro dosing while tapering off antidepressants [Re: miazmagic]
#28665354 - 02/18/24 11:07 AM (4 months, 6 days ago) |
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Oh, yes, that reminded me, my friend said they did breaks also, micro-doses for 5 days, then taking 2 days off. Good luck with this journey, I hope you find what works best for you!
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Re: Micro dosing while tapering off antidepressants [Re: Triskelope]
#28669716 - 02/21/24 12:55 PM (4 months, 3 days ago) |
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Withdrawal report..twice, while not taking the antidepressant for a day, I had extreme vertigo...the worst spins you could ever get from drinking too much. I'm back on the pills.until I have some shrooms to try and avoid this again.
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Re: Micro dosing while tapering off antidepressants [Re: miazmagic]
#28670328 - 02/21/24 07:52 PM (4 months, 2 days ago) |
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Tapering off very long term antidepressant use can rarely be done how recommended by your doctor, as you know. I've been through this with my wife.
We found a support forum for people going through this and were able to work to at least getting her down to a dose that is manageable. As yet she has been unable to taper off completely.
The advised regimen is reducing your dosage by 10% every 7-14 days (depending how you feel). That is not a total drop of 10%, but incremental.
So you would drop from 100mg to 90, then to 81, then to 73, then to 66, then to 60, then to 54, then to 49, then to 44, then 40... and so on.
It usually takes 8-12 months to get off them, but it is possible and you don't have to suffer constant withdrawl due to the incremental nature of the taper. For some people it may take much longer though. Neurochemistry is an extremely complicated subject.
As to the potential of healing with psychedelics, that's another story, but I don't think they go hand in hand with this recovery process, if you choose to face it.
You're not alone though and if you google "ssri taper support forum" you will find many others who are working through this same process. It is doable. You're not stuck on these drugs forever.
You can also refer to survivingantidepressants.org for a dedicated community with greater knowledge on the topic.
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Re: Micro dosing while tapering off antidepressants [Re: Northerner]
#28671634 - 02/22/24 03:58 PM (4 months, 1 day ago) |
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Northener....that's great info. Thanks for your input. Sadly, the drug I'm trying to get off of (Wellbutrin) is offered in 150mg and 100mg, both slow release, which can't be cut. There's also a 50mg. Perhaps the 50 mg can be cut or powdered for tapering doses. I'll have to consult with my doctor (who unfortunately is on the other side of the country for six months of the year...now). I'll definitely check out the group you mentioned. Thanks! I've gone through the withdrawal before, while changing meds, and it's always been hell. I'm not a suicidal person, but I certainly understand the feelings, while in withdrawal.
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Re: Micro dosing while tapering off antidepressants [Re: miazmagic]
#28671653 - 02/22/24 04:10 PM (4 months, 1 day ago) |
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Oops... Wellbutrin is only offered in 150xl, 100sr and 75sr...no 50mg, and no immediate release.
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Re: Micro dosing while tapering off antidepressants [Re: miazmagic] 1
#28671880 - 02/22/24 07:59 PM (4 months, 1 day ago) |
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Looking up bupropion (active Wellbutrin ingredient) you can take it several times over a day as IR for the same effect rather than just once or twice a day as SR.
I know it's not great... but there is a way.
You can also buy generics, that may come in different sizes and make the mathematics easier.
You're not alone. You can talk to other people who know about this drug in these support groups and run it past your doctor as well for peace of mind.
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Re: Micro dosing while tapering off antidepressants [Re: Northerner] 1
#28680539 - 02/29/24 12:35 AM (3 months, 26 days ago) |
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Very interested in this thread, I've been on SSRI'S for a few years now and am also tampering off of them, they helped with anxiety but the brain fog I experienced while on them was crippling.
Thanks for all the inputs (didn't even know about lions Maine)
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Re: Micro dosing while tapering off antidepressants [Re: miazmagic]
#28749239 - 04/25/24 01:15 PM (2 months, 1 day ago) |
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Please be careful mixing psychedelics and pharmaceutical drugs. Wellbutrin and psilocybin should be relatively ok if you are tapering. I would be cautious still. I encourage and support getting off psychiatric meds though. It is very difficult and painful but it is so worth it.
I would consider looking at herbal solutions as well. Gotu kola, Ashwagandha, skullcap, St. John's wort, and many others can be replacements. I am only scraping the surface of useful herbs available with the list I provided, there are so many. Please be careful as some herbs like St. John's Wort can have drug interactions too.
Combine this with sunlight, quality sleep, meditation, barefoot walking in nature, and adequate exercise; no drug or herb can substitute these. Nothing will be very effective if you are not also participating in other healthy lifestyle habits. Just do what you can a little every day; I know it's easier said than done.
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