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Let’s Talk Divination * 3
    #28670292 - 02/21/24 07:37 PM (4 months, 3 days ago)

Hi Friends,

I’m curious about this community’s views on divination methods & thought it’d be interesting to start a dialogue about them. Here are some questions to get started:
  • Do you believe divination has value?
  • Do you see it as predictive or introspective?
  • Do you practice any methods yourself? If so, what method(s) do you use?
  • Has divination impacted your life? Any memorable experiences to share?
  • Can you use your method to try to divine something for the poster above? If so, what do you get? (I have no idea if this can work, I just thought it might be something fun & interesting to try since we’re on the subject.)

Looking forward to hearing your thoughts!


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Re: Let’s Talk Divination [Re: Triskelope] * 3
    #28670306 - 02/21/24 07:44 PM (4 months, 3 days ago)

A girl once described the desk lamp I was working under in a remote viewing session.

The evident power behind divination or knowing the future scares me.

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Re: Let’s Talk Divination [Re: Buster_Brown] * 2
    #28670450 - 02/21/24 09:00 PM (4 months, 3 days ago)

That sounds like it was an interesting experience to have.

My understanding is divination typically involves interpreting symbols, signs, or tools to gain insight or guidance, and that remote viewing isn’t typically considered a form of divination. Instead, it’s seen as a type of ESP or psychic ability since it’s more about tapping into subconscious or non-local aspects of consciousness to perceive info beyond what is available through the usual senses.

Here’s a card for you:

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Re: Let’s Talk Divination [Re: Triskelope]
    #28670928 - 02/22/24 06:45 AM (4 months, 2 days ago)

Interesting. The magician uses a wand-(erer) whereas the diviner uses a wond-(erer)

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Re: Let’s Talk Divination [Re: Triskelope]
    #28671016 - 02/22/24 08:25 AM (4 months, 2 days ago)

Did you make that card yourself?

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Re: Let’s Talk Divination [Re: Buster_Brown] * 2
    #28671184 - 02/22/24 10:09 AM (4 months, 2 days ago)

No, it’s a card from this deck:


Here’s the interpretation of your card if you are interested.

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Re: Let’s Talk Divination [Re: Triskelope] * 2
    #28671192 - 02/22/24 10:18 AM (4 months, 2 days ago)

It has the familiar markings of The Fool. Earlier versions show Arthur Waites white dog tearing his britches suggesting the fall is in accordance with the Divine Plan.

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Re: Let’s Talk Divination [Re: Buster_Brown] * 1
    #28671258 - 02/22/24 11:38 AM (4 months, 2 days ago)

For funsies, let’s see what my personal intuitively-guided method has to offer for you today - from a book & page chosen at random, I found this poem by an unknown author:

In the quest to survive,
A token sense of esteem,
Here we revive,
Our wayward aims and dreams,
Here we epitomize,
To What this reality seems,
Here we personify,
Our wayward aims and dreams.
To the sage a simple trust,
That perfection never exists,
In the throws of our lust,
Here we persist,
In this lies a must,
In this tandem we insist.
Here a spirit is defined,
A power greater than all,
In what we choose to leave behind,
In Hell or Heaven’s hall, If we choose to believe,
The greatest manifestation of fate,
If we can conceive,
Of the powers that destroy and create.

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Re: Let’s Talk Divination [Re: Triskelope]
    #28671320 - 02/22/24 12:27 PM (4 months, 2 days ago)

I'm partial at the moment to a scene in Purple Rain, I think, where a girl abides by a bridge of poems suggesting metaphors as a result or beginning of reality, so that wireless communication is a metaphor of the reality of telepathy. Logic then can break down in the presence of imagination.

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Re: Let’s Talk Divination [Re: Buster_Brown] * 3
    #28671760 - 02/22/24 06:01 PM (4 months, 2 days ago)

:wave:
Cool thread!
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Triskelope said:
Hi Friends, I’m curious about this community’s views on divination methods & thought it’d be interesting to start a dialogue about them. Here are some questions to get started:
  • Do you believe divination has value



Yeah, for me anyway, massively- the bulk of which comes from its uncanny power as a remover of obstacles & problem solving when the rational mind comes up short. Trying not to get into the 'predictive or introspective?' aspect too much here.
But of all divination methods I'm aware of, there's an element of taking your juding mind out of the drivers seat for the consulting process that can create immensely valuable substrate for insight to be cultivated. Maybe more like just creating a space less encumbered by your usual projections.
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  • Do you see it as predictive or introspective?



  • Both! And that's a huge part of the appeal for me. Balancing a discerning attitude- where you are curious enough to seek but won't just believe everything at face value- with enough of the requisite faith for practically experiencing the unknown, can be difficult.
    So; being able to say, read excerpts from the I Ching after meditating and gain some insight to a personal query on a purely mental/introsepctive level is really great- but so is ritualising your consultation, going at it with deep reverence, ensuring that you're really trying to connect with whatever the spirit of your method is, then getting an absolutely paradigm shakingingly prescient reading is really something else entirely. Something that absolutely, to me, speaks to the idea of  personality & discarnate intelligence running through the use of these tools. With so much usage throughout history, I could easily see some sort of egregore form created from the repetiton of practises but whatever the mechanism of action at work is, I can't pass divination off as a purely introspective excerise, nor could I call it (by itsself) a surefire portal to prediction.
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    • Do you practice any methods yourself? If so, what method(s) do you use?




    I Ching mostly over the last few years, a little bit of Tarot, magic 8 ball, bibliomancy for mundane introspection, slow pour alphabet soup, fortune cookie, synchronicity, Rorschach test interpretartions of blank spaces in cat food bowls & grinder trays... Clouds.
    I have been around a lot of Tarot and a family member is proficient w/ pendulum usage but nothing caught me like I Ching, really.
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    • Has divination impacted your life? Any memorable experiences to share?




    Definitely, hard to convey how useful I consider this stuff. Among a stream of learning experience, that faith balance mentioned above teaches all sorts of lessons every time it comes up and making time & space for a properly ritualised divination session (whether solo I Ching work or Tarot/ combination stuff with my GF) never fails to stir back up a bit of that spark, that pull of curious amusement toward the unknown. Plus, when I get a REALLY juicy I Ching cast on, I can be 'sustained' in the sense of picking it apart, digging into all the aspects of the lines, symbolism, metaphor- you get the picture- all rich kibble for thought, reflection and advice, literally for months. Love when it happens like that and that reason has gradually led to me actually consulting the oracle less, studying it more and making sure I treat the experience w/ respect.
    Memorable experiences, countless times where my I Ching cast and my GFs Tarot reading would be saying the same thing really cohesively but most memorable overall about the I Ching usage are times where the character really comes out- I've definitely been sassed, called out and put in my place left questioning much more after the consulting.
    :noway:
    There's also just something about divination and tripping that pair really nicely, although there is potential to menace yourself...
    :trippinbawelz:
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    • Can you use your method to try to divine something for the poster above? If so, what do you get? (I have no idea if this can work, I just thought it might be something fun & interesting to try since we’re on the subject.)




    I like the idea but am more weary of this type of thing ATM...
    Saying that, Magic 8 ball: What's Buster Browns deal?

    "Without a doubt."

    :mindblown:

    If posed the same questions yourself, OP- what would your answers be?

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    Re: Let’s Talk Divination [Re: Lithop] * 2
        #28671783 - 02/22/24 06:17 PM (4 months, 2 days ago)

    I found the siddhis described in buddhist and other eastern esoteric literature ~([depending on who's list you go by: but really, one's imagination is the limit] minus 'endlessly multiplying one's body' ~ for some reason i've never experienced that as described in some of the literature i've read that speaks about such a thing) ~ to be experientially real as in, available to explore within oneself ~ but not objectively true phenomenon extending out into the world of shared things with other sentient beings.

    Although, some of the simulated dreamscapes in which some siddhis might manifest can occur in as if 'real life OBE modes' (in that) they're nearly tit for tat ~ as in , nearly exact ~ with that of one's memory of any particular place or event which had been part of one's immediate life at some point in spacetime.

    However, upon closer examination and upon wasting much, much time to explore the aforementioned group of 'psychic phenomenon' It became undeniable that the environments were being recollected/remade of memory and ongoing experience.

    Okay, maybe not a waste of time ~ but, I've found they just seem to happen due to x, y, and z ~ and trying to control or 'make them happen' is an uncertain matter, however, they do come and go every now and again when practicing formal sitting meditation and dream yoga for extended periods of time in a more intensive setting then my usual day-to-day allows for nowadays.

    Which, tbh, was kind of a bummer, but - at the same time, was kind of a relief... for (probably) some of the same implications Buster seems to allude to or indicate on the dl in his last post here.


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    Re: Let’s Talk Divination [Re: The Blind Ass] * 2
        #28671793 - 02/22/24 06:33 PM (4 months, 2 days ago)

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    Rorschach test interpretartions of blank spaces in cat food bowls & grinder trays...
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    Can you use your method to try to divine something for the poster above










    I think that speaks for itself.

    LOL

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    Re: Let’s Talk Divination [Re: Buster_Brown] * 1
        #28671811 - 02/22/24 06:52 PM (4 months, 2 days ago)

    But I'll give it a go:

    We're familiar with the Borg (squared away, ship-shape and Bristol fashion) along with the rounded shape of the starship Enterprise, ensconced in the young, green, universe.

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    Re: Let’s Talk Divination [Re: Lithop] * 1
        #28672108 - 02/22/24 10:46 PM (4 months, 2 days ago)

    Thank you for your detailed reply Lithop!

    I do feel it has value, for what sounds like similar reasons to you. I tend to consult cards when I am enmeshed in my Emotional Mind as I don’t trust my judgement to be at it’s soundest in that headspace, so it can be helpful to me to take a step back and reflect on a simple reading. Conversely, if I’m more based in my Rational or Wise mind - I don’t typically use the cards (unless my intuition is really pushing hard for it for some reason). Well, no that’s not totally true.. there is another reason I find it useful occasionally, which is for artistic inspiration & to get creative juices flowing if I am coming up short on ideas.

    As for the question regarding predictive or introspective. I think it’s possible to be both. For myself it’s for introspection, but I have a friend who has given readings that did end up being predictive to some extent. I am and probably always be somewhat skeptical side though on how much veracity there is to that. I wonder if it is somehow actually predictive or comes about for some other reason, such as our Will latching on to that and making it happen because the idea was planted in the subconscious.. I also agree with what you said about
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    Balancing a discerning attitude- where you are curious enough to seek but won't just believe everything at face value


    that is the stance I try to take with it as well, and since we can often be susceptible to confirmation bias.

    For methods I use: I have a couple card decks, and my own personal method I’ve been experimenting with (doesn’t have an official name) is like is sort of a blend of things where I use randomized numbers to sort open / allow the Universe/Allies/Guides (whatever you want to call this) to have it’s say on what I should look at in that moment (ie: what book, then what page of that book, etc), and following those threads to where that leads, and then integrating intuition by seeing what gives the strongest pull. I use this mostly for the artistic inspiration I mentioned above.

    As to impacts, I would say it (along with my art practices) aids in strengthening & trusting intuition, and trusting in the not knowingness of it all. I also agree with what you said about it being
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    rich kibble for thought, reflection and advice


    I don’t have any specific moments to share, but seeing wild synchronicity at play has been and always will be fascinating to me.

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    There's also just something about divination and tripping that pair really nicely, although there is potential to menace yourself...


    I haven’t actually tried this (yet), but I am curious about it. If you have any more to share about this, I’d love to learn more.

    Here is a card for you (Lithop): + card meaning Fun fact: when I was shuffling while asking for a card for you, this same exact card fell out of the deck 2 times in a row, so take that how you will :heart:

    Edited by Triskelope (02/22/24 10:54 PM)

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    Re: Let’s Talk Divination [Re: Buster_Brown] * 1
        #28672545 - 02/23/24 09:44 AM (4 months, 1 day ago)


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    Re: Let’s Talk Divination [Re: Triskelope] * 1
        #28672625 - 02/23/24 10:55 AM (4 months, 1 day ago)

    Well, perhaps you'll forgive me for reading you as Trikselope

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    Re: Let’s Talk Divination [Re: Buster_Brown] * 2
        #28672724 - 02/23/24 11:39 AM (4 months, 1 day ago)

    No tricks, only treats.

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        #28672805 - 02/23/24 01:00 PM (4 months, 1 day ago)

    There's history between some of us here. I suspected TBA's motives as being divided, hence the example. 'Love your enemy' might cast opposition in a different light rather than ugly ogres, not that I believe TBA has anything other than the the highest regard for the Borg

    Edited by Buster_Brown (02/23/24 01:00 PM)

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    Re: Let’s Talk Divination [Re: Triskelope] * 1
        #28672994 - 02/23/24 04:18 PM (4 months, 1 day ago)

    Quote:

    Triskelope said:





    "Diplomatic" might be the word.

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    Re: Let’s Talk Divination [Re: Buster_Brown] * 1
        #28673026 - 02/23/24 04:53 PM (4 months, 1 day ago)

    Thank you for the clarification.

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