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Has anyone had any negative physical side affects From too much dmt?
    #28668644 - 02/20/24 06:16 PM (4 months, 3 days ago)

Has anyone had any negative physical side affects from smoking dmt too much as far as on their lungs?
I haven’t noticed but since it uses all these harsh chemicals to extract I was wondering. the pure product seems safe and not harsh if you don’t heat it too much.
I am just wondering because I very much enjoy it but I don’t want to harm myself. I know anything burned can cause carcinogens but would vaping?

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Re: Has anyone had any negative physical side affects From too much dmt? [Re: dubbtronix12345]
    #28668672 - 02/20/24 06:32 PM (4 months, 3 days ago)

I assume you are talking about the sodium hydroxide when u say "harsh chemicals". If it is made right you won't get any of that in the extract. It requires care during the extraction you have to do a wash on it if u pull up any of the bottom layer but you always wash if you're a good chemist. I've never had any bad physical effects from dmt except the forcing you to lay down part 😂

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Re: Has anyone had any negative physical side affects From too much dmt? [Re: dubbtronix12345]
    #28668677 - 02/20/24 06:34 PM (4 months, 3 days ago)

Id be very careful vaping dmt someone made from home. Got to make sure to wash the organic extracts well with H2O. Most recipes I see online dont include that step and certainly dont emphasize it.


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Re: Has anyone had any negative physical side affects From too much dmt? [Re: AspectOfTheCreator]
    #28668694 - 02/20/24 06:47 PM (4 months, 3 days ago)

Yeah I usually recrystallize it twice to be sure it’s clean. And yes  by harsh chemicals I mean the lye but I understand it’s just a way to basify the plant material so the dmt can be easily removed since dmt is non polar and naptha is a nonpolar solvent. So the end result shouldn’t have any sodium hydroxide unless you accidentally pull some out in the pipette.

But I was just wondering because idk anyone really who does it a lot.

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Re: Has anyone had any negative physical side affects From too much dmt? [Re: AspectOfTheCreator]
    #28668805 - 02/20/24 08:13 PM (4 months, 3 days ago)

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Id be very careful vaping dmt someone made from home. Got to make sure to wash the organic extracts well with H2O. Most recipes I see online dont include that step and certainly dont emphasize it.



I'd just wash it with distilled H2O and some really pure non-polar solvents like some 11x distilled butane or something dmt freebase is not soluble in H2O so anything that sticks in there should be the lye and oils

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Re: Has anyone had any negative physical side affects From too much dmt? [Re: sk8fast]
    #28668894 - 02/20/24 09:43 PM (4 months, 3 days ago)

So you just mix your powder into some distilled water and then what, filter?


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Re: Has anyone had any negative physical side affects From too much dmt? [Re: GenericHero] * 3
    #28669056 - 02/21/24 01:13 AM (4 months, 3 days ago)

I never had any need to re-x, just simply don't suck the base up when decanting and make sure to properly evaporate all solvent when drying.

Never had any lung issues, extremely pure end results.

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So you just mix your powder into some distilled water and then what, filter?



Cry probably. I'd cry if I did that.


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Re: Has anyone had any negative physical side affects From too much dmt? [Re: Northerner]
    #28669523 - 02/21/24 10:28 AM (4 months, 3 days ago)

I don't remember the details. I think I did gordotek


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Re: Has anyone had any negative physical side affects From too much dmt? [Re: Northerner]
    #28669655 - 02/21/24 12:07 PM (4 months, 3 days ago)

Yeah sometimes I accidentally suck up the mhrb mix so I recrystallize just to be sure. But I have noticed the more I recrystallize it, the less of the classic dmt smell
It has. So maybe it’s better to leave it.
And I never mix it in water either. I heard you have to have the naphtha and water warm or the dmt could crash out into the water. It works the way I’m doing which is the basic Nomans tek so I’ll just keep doing it the same way.

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Re: Has anyone had any negative physical side affects From too much dmt? [Re: Northerner]
    #28669781 - 02/21/24 01:36 PM (4 months, 3 days ago)

I guess the main point of this post was to see if anyone has dmt often and notices negative effects. Because it depends but sometimes I crave it more( like a few times a week) and other times I go months without it.  But the reason I like it so much is It feels great, it is short in duration so you don’t have to plan a whole day around it, you can do it multiple times a week or day without building a tolerance, and even though it doesn’t last long, it definitely residual beneficial effects. The main trip is short but for about an hour after I have an after glow.
I get nervous of doing anything too often becaue I have an addictive mind. I used to be addicted to pain killers, adderall, Xanax. So I don’t want to depend on a drug but dmt and mushrooms don’t seem like the others. They are so much more fulfilling. The other day I took Kratom and I was like what the heck is this? I feel a little relaxed and itchy but I feel out of it. So I was like I’m gonna have some dmt. And the dmt is way more satisfying

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Re: Has anyone had any negative physical side affects From too much dmt? [Re: dubbtronix12345] * 1
    #28670121 - 02/21/24 05:58 PM (4 months, 2 days ago)

Never really heard of negative physical side effects. There are psychological side effects that can come from using it too frequently or in large doses.

Flashbacks is one thing a friend has recently told me about. Going about day to day activities while sober and instantly being thrust back into a trip for some length of time. Sounds potentially dangerous and stressful.

I think it’s also a fact that mushrooms and DMT, when done too often, can leave you in a state of derealisation. You can be unsure what is real and having delusional/paranoid kinds of thoughts for days to weeks after overdoing it. I think this is more likely to occur if you trip too often, but it can also occur from a single large dose if you’re not in the best frame of mind during the trip.

This is why decent breaks in between trips are a must, and also keeping in mind your mindset and setting before the trip.

I’d be careful using it multiple times a day, multiple times a week. You might find yourself believing some strange things and thinking that everyone else is crazy.

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Re: Has anyone had any negative physical side affects From too much dmt? [Re: Bardy] * 1
    #28671391 - 02/22/24 01:14 PM (4 months, 2 days ago)

Yeah I appreciate the replys. I’m just kind of at a point in life where i don’t know anyone who enjoys psychedelics as much as me so I generally come on here to  talk with likeminded people. Also, everytime I do dmt I immediately want to tell everyone about it and so I usually come in here.

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Re: Has anyone had any negative physical side affects From too much dmt? [Re: dubbtronix12345]
    #28671425 - 02/22/24 01:44 PM (4 months, 2 days ago)

I took it it orally daily/near daily for 4 years straight, best time of my life. There could potentially be some issues for some people, but it didn't seem to cause me any negative issues, orally or smoked. Cannabis actually ended up causing me some issues though, i was an all day everyday smoker for 10 years, after all my DMT/Aya experimentation Cannabis just became more Psychedelic and weird and intense and psychologically i just couldn't handle the Cannabis anymore so i had to quit, now i rely more on D8 and HHC for my Cannabinoids, which work good without anxiety and paranoia and intensity and such. But yeah the DMT is fine as far as i'm concerned, idk about potential negative implications with smoking it regularly, but orally at least it was fine for me, ymmv though.


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Re: Has anyone had any negative physical side affects From too much dmt? [Re: Sabnock]
    #28671434 - 02/22/24 01:49 PM (4 months, 1 day ago)

I've been thinking. How much is too much? You know you've arrived at too much from unpleasant physical effects, that's what makes it too much. Has anyone ever had negative physical effects from taking too much DMT? Yes. Every time.


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Re: Has anyone had any negative physical side affects From too much dmt? [Re: GenericHero]
    #28671673 - 02/22/24 04:23 PM (4 months, 1 day ago)

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I've been thinking. How much is too much? You know you've arrived at too much from unpleasant physical effects, that's what makes it too much. Has anyone ever had negative physical effects from taking too much DMT? Yes. Every time.




Well as far as negative physical effects go, the only thing that sucked/sucks for me is the Adrenergic intensity during the come up, but once the come up passes, i'm good to go, i feel great, if i smoke Cannabis though things can sometimes take a turn for the worst psychologically, but physically, nothing negative for me.

I wouldn't even consider the come up intensity to be negative exactly, it's just rather undesirable, but i've found a way around the intensity by either sipping on the DMT-containing tea for 10 to 15 minutes which makes it kick in more gently/smoothly, or i mix in 3 to 4.5 grams of dried Lemon Balm leaf tea, usually mix it with the DMT-containing tea, and usually sip on it for 10 to 15 minutes, works like a charm for smoothing out the come up intensity.

With smoked DMT, i recommend Changa, and what i like to do is load up on some Harmalas first by packing a bowl of DMT-enhanced leaf or DMT sandwiched between some Caapi leaf or something, and some like Harmala extract or Rue seed on top, i'll smoke that, and as i get to the DMT part i'll let the come up intensity hit and then settle, which only takes like a couple or so minutes ime, and from there i can keep smoking on the DMT and work my way up/into it and it's as gentle and warm and inviting as it can be, no intensity, but still very powerful lol.

So the only "negative" i can see about DMT would be it's come up intensity, which can be worked around, other than that you just have the psychological stuff to contend with, so one should make sure they're in a relatively good place mentally. Not saying people can't have negative effects, but at least for me i haven't.


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Re: Has anyone had any negative physical side affects From too much dmt? [Re: Sabnock]
    #28671675 - 02/22/24 04:26 PM (4 months, 1 day ago)

As for how much is too much dosage-wise, i'd say it's when you get completely overwhelmed. Me personally with oral DMT i usually aim for just under a completely overwhelming dose, so like it's strong strong for sure and definitely immersive, but it's not overwhelmingly so, again, especially with the come up intensity. Smoked DMT, never really had any bad experiences with it, yet, no matter how much i smoke, but i haven't tried pure DMT itself and usually rely on Changa because i find it to be the better way in order to get the most out of smoked DMT.


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    #28671707 - 02/22/24 05:03 PM (4 months, 1 day ago)

Hey your the guy who was telling everyone about lemon balm back in the day. Just wanted to say thanks… its saved my wife and I a bunch of nausea and anxiety in taking these medicines.  It’s also anti-spasmatic and helps my wife with stomach issues she has. Has a very relaxing quality to it.

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    #28671720 - 02/22/24 05:25 PM (4 months, 1 day ago)

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Hey your the guy who was telling everyone about lemon balm back in the day. Just wanted to say thanks… its saved my wife and I a bunch of nausea and anxiety in taking these medicines.  It’s also anti-spasmatic and helps my wife with stomach issues she has. Has a very relaxing quality to it.




Yup, it's a really nice plant, relaxing, helps make things more user-friendly, can help with some stomach discomfort, i'm glad i stumbled upon it, i included it with my DMT more often than not once i found it, prior to that i just worked with the DMT as it is, but Lemon Balm really helped improve on things and i'm glad that others get benefit from it too :smile:


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Re: Has anyone had any negative physical side affects From too much dmt? [Re: Sabnock]
    #28672509 - 02/23/24 09:29 AM (4 months, 1 day ago)

I would like to try oral dmt again. I just need some Syrian rue. Can you use freebase dmt or does it have to be fumarate? Do you use Syrian rue extract or just make a tea? And you don’t get a tolerance for oral dmt either?
I agree that the worst side effect is the come up anxiety. But when you break through I guess you can see why you are so scared. It definitely puts your body in a fight or flight paralyzed type mode when you are broken through so I guess your brain remembers this so naturally it get nervous before.
I will have to try lemon balm too. That sounds like a nice addition to a mushroom tea or dmt brew. I guess becaue if the fact that dmt is made in your brain, it is very easy for your body to deal with so I doubt there is any physical negative side effects unless you extract it wrong or burn it.

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Re: Has anyone had any negative physical side affects From too much dmt? [Re: dubbtronix12345]
    #28672527 - 02/23/24 09:37 AM (4 months, 1 day ago)

I saw a guy the other day saying to use .40 grams extract mixed with prior maoi.

Personally I don’t understand how anyone would want to use so much of any psychedelic. I love them. A lot. And I’m quite an addictive personality even with habits and routines.

I’ve got a life to live. Psychedelics enhance my life they don’t replace it.

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