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all in one bags
#28670453 - 02/21/24 09:04 PM (4 months, 3 days ago) |
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im just starting out to growing and have two syringes 1x jack frost 1x blue meanies and due to lack of space and resources i've been looking at all in one bags in particular (cvg+millet) but my concern is these strains wont grow in them but from research i think it should be okay and also from a 1kg bag what could i expect the harvest to be (dry)
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Re: all in one bags [Re: Cones]
#28670465 - 02/21/24 09:09 PM (4 months, 3 days ago) |
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Are they spores or liquid cultures?
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liquid culture syringes 10cc as far as i'm concerned again I'm fairly new to this and just want to cultivate for personal use amungus me and my friends
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Re: all in one bags [Re: Cones] 1
#28670486 - 02/21/24 09:19 PM (4 months, 3 days ago) |
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Cones said: liquid culture syringes 10cc as far as i'm concerned again I'm fairly new to this and just want to cultivate for personal use amungus me and my friends
The variety won't make a difference. If the LC is clean and you get lucky with the all in 1 you can get fruits.
Would suggest inoculating grain on its own and then mixing with substrate. I can't remember the last time I saw an all in 1 working when growing cubes.
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what tek would be best for this and what should i look up to do research for this
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Re: all in one bags [Re: Cones] 1
#28670492 - 02/21/24 09:23 PM (4 months, 3 days ago) |
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The best thing you could do is PF Tek. Even if you have LC if it hasn't been tested on agar at best its a craps shoot whether you will complete a successful harvest.
Look up updated PF Tek, follow it to the T and you will learn a lot about the life cycle of mushrooms.
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Re: all in one bags [Re: Bajazly]
#28670493 - 02/21/24 09:27 PM (4 months, 3 days ago) |
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i do know the person im getting spores off tests on agar alot but i just dont have much space and he offers sterile all in one bags with millet and cvg so i was gonna give that go and leave it in my wardrobe his insta is sporespecs
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Re: all in one bags [Re: Cones]
#28670496 - 02/21/24 09:35 PM (4 months, 3 days ago) |
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If you have spores what you want to do is a REAL crapshoot, they would be way better with PF Tek. Spores are never clean but you might get lucky. PF Tek is almost assured getting some fruits.
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Re: all in one bags [Re: Bajazly]
#28670503 - 02/21/24 09:40 PM (4 months, 3 days ago) |
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ive just done a bit of research and i wont be able to sterlise all the jars and stuff is there any way around it like possibly getting a substrate and spawn bags then transfering that to a tub without the whole cake thing as ideally i cant be doing all that to much coz if people i live with find them its a big ordeal thats why i was looking at all in one bags with self healing injection port and just leave those at top of my wardrobe i honest might try 2 all in one bags give it a month or two see how it goes and if it dont fruit ill consider pf tek
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Re: all in one bags [Re: Cones]
#28670511 - 02/21/24 09:45 PM (4 months, 3 days ago) |
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If you are living in someone else's house subjecting them to criminal activity without their knowledge, just don't do that, way not cool.
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Re: all in one bags [Re: Bajazly]
#28670516 - 02/21/24 09:48 PM (4 months, 3 days ago) |
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oh no its just rent insepctions so i dont want monotubs or stuff like that sitting in my wardrobe hense why im thinking the all in one bags coz i can have them at back of my wardrobe behind all my clothes and little trinkets
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Re: all in one bags [Re: Bajazly]
#28670519 - 02/21/24 09:50 PM (4 months, 3 days ago) |
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byt what about a small inflatable monotub with substrate bag and spawn bags what tek would be easier
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Re: all in one bags [Re: Cones]
#28670524 - 02/21/24 09:53 PM (4 months, 3 days ago) |
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Cones said: oh no its just rent insepctions so i dont want monotubs or stuff like that sitting in my wardrobe hense why im thinking the all in one bags coz i can have them at back of my wardrobe behind all my clothes and little trinkets
Have you considered the light set up you would need at all? Also curious how you went from getting an lc to now spores. Frankly what you want to do is an absolute crap shoot. You may or may not be successful and considering you don't want to put the effort into at least doing pf tek, I say go for it. Let us know how it goes.
I hardly know a rent inspection that's legally allowed to go through your stuff like that. Nor do I know of any that's not more than once a year.
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Re: all in one bags [Re: Cones]
#28670525 - 02/21/24 09:53 PM (4 months, 3 days ago) |
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Cones said: ive just done a bit of research and i wont be able to sterlise all the jars and stuff is there any way around it like possibly getting a substrate and spawn bags then transfering that to a tub without the whole cake thing as ideally i cant be doing all that to much coz if people i live with find them its a big ordeal thats why i was looking at all in one bags with self healing injection port and just leave those at top of my wardrobe i honest might try 2 all in one bags give it a month or two see how it goes and if it dont fruit ill consider pf tek
The issue here is not only that you plan to cultivate without the permission of those who own the house, but also that you plan to share the shrooms, meaning it won't be a secret. Would you like your parents to go to jail because someone said to someone, that "someone", ie you, is cultivating shrooms? If you want to experiment with psychedelics, without endangering your parents, there are ways. Get what you need to make Ayahuasca, buy some acid, or buy some shrooms. Anyway, psychedelics are not weed, you don't need huge quantities. Cultivate only if it is safe, and if you like cultivating.
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i do have a fair amount of lights and fans and tents due to the fact i used to cultivate pot for personal use but at this point in time im gonna give the lc with all in one bags a go and post some pictures within the next few weeks
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Re: all in one bags [Re: Skropi]
#28670538 - 02/21/24 10:00 PM (4 months, 3 days ago) |
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my parents play no part in this i live alone with my partner its just the landlord but have a diffrent verdict on it but im moving in 6 months so thats when ill put more effort and attention in to it all but just for this current period of time i just wanna try all in one bags gain knowledge and some experinence
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Re: all in one bags [Re: Cones] 1
#28670541 - 02/21/24 10:02 PM (4 months, 3 days ago) |
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Sounds like you don't want advice, just reassurance for your poor idea.
Are you hiding it from your partner too, or just your landlord?
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Re: all in one bags [Re: Skropi] 1
#28670543 - 02/21/24 10:05 PM (4 months, 3 days ago) |
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I am all for breaking laws that hurt no one but yourself but you are breaking laws that could potentially hurt innocent people,. Most of us here do what we do knowing full well what we do could not end up well but it will end up not well for ONLY us and no one else. Depending on where you are, it could end up horrible for the people you live with.
Skropi makes a good point on what your options are without endangering anyone but yourself and I suggest you think about what you are doing and do some rethinking.
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Re: all in one bags [Re: Bajazly]
#28670548 - 02/21/24 10:12 PM (4 months, 3 days ago) |
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i assure you im taking all these reply's into consideration and will not be sharing or handing any of these out until im at a point where im familiar and confident with what im cultivating but what about pre sterile substrate and spawn bags then transferring that to a tub using pf tek method or is there a tek that uses lc with a spawn bag then transferring that
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Re: all in one bags [Re: Cones]
#28670551 - 02/21/24 10:18 PM (4 months, 3 days ago) |
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You're gonna bulk spawn substrate and grain using pf tek?
I suggest you start here: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/28501530
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well i was thinking setting up a tub just from bunnings with air filters and a fan set up and then use pre sterile substrate and spawn bags my only question is it the same method as pf tek just using lc injecting that into the spawn bag as one im looking at as injection ports then do you transfer the spawn in the tub with substrate then mist it and wait for it to fruit and is it best to use a lid if its going to be sitting in a wardrobe
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Re: all in one bags [Re: Cones]
#28670565 - 02/21/24 10:28 PM (4 months, 3 days ago) |
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Cones said: well i was thinking setting up a tub just from bunnings with air filters and a fan set up and then use pre sterile substrate and spawn bags my only question is it the same method as pf tek just using lc injecting that into the spawn bag as one im looking at as injection ports then do you transfer the spawn in the tub with substrate then mist it and wait for it to fruit and is it best to use a lid if its going to be sitting in a wardrobe
You are doing everything wrong. Again, start here: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/28501530
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Re: all in one bags [Re: Cones]
#28670569 - 02/21/24 10:30 PM (4 months, 3 days ago) |
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i would suggest exploring the site and doing a little reading. look up pf tek, agar, agar to grain, spawning to bulk. pf tek is a totally different method that doesnt involve tubs (unless its a watertub) or bags at all so im not sure if its going to be translateable here.
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thanks heaps im reading up on it now
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one last thing the person I've been in contact with for the lc and other products regarding cultivation he offers active syringes with an array of species what would be some of hye best for just beginning with and he also offers a beginners bundles with 1x syringe of your choice 1x 2kg pre steeliest substrate bag cvg 1x 1kg pre sterilized millet spawn bag 1x agar plate 1x modified inflatable mono tub 1x growing guide book and gloves and from the reading I've done im guessing that would be a good investment aswell as 20 sterile agar plates for $20 and he has modified mason jar lids with air filter vent and injection ports would that be worth getting as well or would i be best just buying everything myself and doing all the hard yards in terms of still air box sterilizing everything and mixing substrate and getting a pressure cooker for the jars
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Re: all in one bags [Re: Cones]
#28670622 - 02/21/24 11:14 PM (4 months, 3 days ago) |
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In my opinion, the stealthiest method of cultivation is to keep it a secret even from yourself. Next best thing is the PF Tek, as a few cakes can be hidden/thrown out, and it has the added benefit that you will definitely get some fruits. In my opinion sharing is risky, whoever has the need for psychedelics, can learn how to grow on his/her own. I do share btw, to be frank, but only with my best friend, and absolutely no one else, and this still imposes a risk vector, but I simply don't care. Not caring doesn't mean that I am not aware of the risks though.
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Re: all in one bags [Re: Skropi]
#28670640 - 02/21/24 11:39 PM (4 months, 3 days ago) |
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no i completely understand and appreciate the help one last thing what strains would you recommend that are a easy sit back and let it fruit type species and even some higher potency strains which are more suitable to my skill level
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Re: all in one bags [Re: Cones]
#28670767 - 02/22/24 02:45 AM (4 months, 2 days ago) |
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Cones said: no i completely understand and appreciate the help one last thing what strains would you recommend that are a easy sit back and let it fruit type species and even some higher potency strains which are more suitable to my skill level
cubensis is cubensis. we introduce fruiting right at spawn. you can sit back and relax with most cubes. penis envy sometimes benefits from or requires a casing which is 50/50 verm/peatmoss apart from that after you spawn theres not much to do with cubes if you have everything dialed in correctly in your fruiting chamber.
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I think he could also try growing nats? I just started growing them, so I can't speak from experience, but the usual Teks apply to them too.
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