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Is PE that much stronger?
    #28667442 - 02/19/24 09:38 PM (4 months, 4 days ago)

Is PE really that much stronger? My jars are colonizing for my first grow and wondering how much I should take.

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Re: Is PE that much stronger? [Re: dylan10723]
    #28667562 - 02/20/24 12:15 AM (4 months, 4 days ago)

Probably start with 1g, should give you a good feel for where they are at.

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Re: Is PE that much stronger? [Re: Northerner]
    #28667584 - 02/20/24 12:50 AM (4 months, 4 days ago)

I’ve taken 3.5 g of mushrooms before. Not sure what strain or anything. First time I took mushrooms I actually had no idea how many I had. Had bad advice from a friends older brother and took some, didn’t feel anything, took some more 30 minutes later, and repeated this a few times. Ended up having a good time but nothing too crazy. Took about 3.5 (not weighed), and then took 4 last time but didn’t have a very strong trip.

I don’t want to take them and be underwhelmed and feel like I wasted mushrooms on a weak trip. But I also have heard crazy things about PE. Just wondering how strong they really are.

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Re: Is PE that much stronger? [Re: dylan10723] * 1
    #28667594 - 02/20/24 01:07 AM (4 months, 4 days ago)

1g of good fresh PE is a nice mid experience, it shouldn't disappoint.

For shrooms in that range I normally eat 2g, that's quite heavy though. Nothing too crazy, but tripping pretty darn hard. Lay on the couch and spin the fk out type tripping.

Shrooms are all different though and people are all different. You're going to have to find your own way through this a bit.


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Re: Is PE that much stronger? [Re: Northerner]
    #28667788 - 02/20/24 07:33 AM (4 months, 3 days ago)

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Re: Is PE that much stronger? (moved) [Re: dylan10723]
    #28668302 - 02/20/24 02:52 PM (4 months, 3 days ago)

This thread was moved from The Pub.

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Re: Is PE that much stronger? [Re: Northerner]
    #28668422 - 02/20/24 03:58 PM (4 months, 3 days ago)

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Shrooms are all different though and people are all different. You're going to have to find your own way through this a bit.




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Re: Is PE that much stronger? [Re: dylan10723] * 1
    #28668491 - 02/20/24 04:35 PM (4 months, 3 days ago)

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1g of good fresh PE is a nice mid experience, it shouldn't disappoint.

For shrooms in that range I normally eat 2g, that's quite heavy though. Nothing too crazy, but tripping pretty darn hard. Lay on the couch and spin the fk out type tripping.

Shrooms are all different though and people are all different. You're going to have to find your own way through this a bit.





:werd:


I find PE to be more potent than "typical cubes" that I've ate in the past, but it's been so so long since I've ate "typical cubes" I can't really say HOW MUCH more potent they really are (only ate "typical cubes" in my early days, since 2014 I've ate nothing but woodlovers and potent cube varieties like PE/APE/Enigma).

I feel 1g is a good starting point to get familiar with the potency for someone that doesn't have a lot of experience with psychedelics, maybe as much as 1.5g.

2g of PE is typical dose/starting point for me, for myself that's a full on trip but nothing too deep or too far out, I'd equate 2g of PE to about 3g to 3.5g of "average cubes"...Anything beyond 2.25g to 2.5g and things start getting pretty deep/serious lol.




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I’ve taken 3.5 g of mushrooms before. Not sure what strain or anything. First time I took mushrooms I actually had no idea how many I had. Had bad advice from a friends older brother and took some, didn’t feel anything, took some more 30 minutes later, and repeated this a few times. Ended up having a good time but nothing too crazy. Took about 3.5 (not weighed), and then took 4 last time but didn’t have a very strong trip.

I don’t want to take them and be underwhelmed and feel like I wasted mushrooms on a weak trip. But I also have heard crazy things about PE. Just wondering how strong they really are.





Sounds like some weak mushrooms.

Also reminds me of my very first trips....the first 2 or 3 trips I had were very mild, first time I ate 1.7g and didn't feel much at all, 2nd time IIRC I ate 2g to 3g and still didn't really experience all that much, so on my 3rd or 4th trip I decided to eat 5g and long story short that absolutely did the trick :yesnod: lol (still one of the most profound trips I've ever had).

Looking back, those mushrooms I was working with for my first trips were no doubt on the weak side.






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Re: Is PE that much stronger? [Re: openmind]
    #28668759 - 02/20/24 07:44 PM (4 months, 3 days ago)

Yeah, I’m curious on this too.

I have 3.5g of PE in the freezer. Taking them Saturday or Sunday evening. I’m used to/prefer level 4 experiences and this one will be important—the first in almost 2years with the intention of deep personal understanding, healing—a big deep-don’t-care-if-I weep for 5 hrs kinda thing.  I’ve been heading down a dark road for a while and I’m finally willing to take a good hard look at myself and try to begin fixing some shit…

So, that said, 3.5 g is probably a bit too much? My supplier is a keen grower with many different strains and he doesn’t consider them THAT much more potent.

But I’d rather not black out or anything so what 2.5g?

I’m ready to be thrown against a wall and allow the light to rape me.


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Re: Is PE that much stronger? [Re: Milleresque] * 1
    #28668794 - 02/20/24 08:06 PM (4 months, 3 days ago)

PE are the strongest but random. They vary in dosage from shroom to shroom. Do each trip is random and unpredictable. Mushrooms are way more powerful than you realize. They can shatter your reality and your mind and selfhood. Anything over 1g has the potential to blast you through the heart of the sun and into deep space or the beginning of time. Be safe. Be well. :smile:

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Re: Is PE that much stronger? [Re: openmind]
    #28669026 - 02/21/24 12:30 AM (4 months, 3 days ago)

What makes a mushroom weak?

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Re: Is PE that much stronger? [Re: dylan10723]
    #28669029 - 02/21/24 12:35 AM (4 months, 3 days ago)

Low potency by weight.

Ive grown some Mazatepeca that was weak in potency, the tiny phenotype kind. However, the trip experience is very pleasant so its worth taking more.

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Re: Is PE that much stronger? [Re: Milleresque]
    #28669038 - 02/21/24 12:52 AM (4 months, 3 days ago)

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Yeah, I’m curious on this too.

I have 3.5g of PE in the freezer. Taking them Saturday or Sunday evening. I’m used to/prefer level 4 experiences and this one will be important—the first in almost 2years with the intention of deep personal understanding, healing—a big deep-don’t-care-if-I weep for 5 hrs kinda thing.  I’ve been heading down a dark road for a while and I’m finally willing to take a good hard look at myself and try to begin fixing some shit…

So, that said, 3.5 g is probably a bit too much? My supplier is a keen grower with many different strains and he doesn’t consider them THAT much more potent.

But I’d rather not black out or anything so what 2.5g?

I’m ready to be thrown against a wall and allow the light to rape me.




You shouldn't freeze mushrooms.

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Re: Is PE that much stronger? [Re: dylan10723]
    #28669061 - 02/21/24 01:36 AM (4 months, 3 days ago)

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dylan10723 said:
What makes a mushroom weak?




It is potency or concentration or dosage. The molecule is psilocybin. Each mushroom has a different concentration.

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Re: Is PE that much stronger? [Re: DERRAYLD]
    #28669112 - 02/21/24 03:32 AM (4 months, 3 days ago)

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Milleresque said:
Yeah, I’m curious on this too.

I have 3.5g of PE in the freezer. Taking them Saturday or Sunday evening. I’m used to/prefer level 4 experiences and this one will be important—the first in almost 2years with the intention of deep personal understanding, healing—a big deep-don’t-care-if-I weep for 5 hrs kinda thing.  I’ve been heading down a dark road for a while and I’m finally willing to take a good hard look at myself and try to begin fixing some shit…

So, that said, 3.5 g is probably a bit too much? My supplier is a keen grower with many different strains and he doesn’t consider them THAT much more potent.

But I’d rather not black out or anything so what 2.5g?

I’m ready to be thrown against a wall and allow the light to rape me.




You shouldn't freeze mushrooms.





Not sure where you’re getting this from; cracker dry with o2 absorbers in pre heat sealed  and vacuumed opaque black ziplocks. Thanks though.

I’m more…nervy about the dose. They’re probably 6 months old and previously held in mason jars.

Anyhoo I’ll go looking for a relevant trip report.


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Re: Is PE that much stronger? [Re: Milleresque] * 1
    #28669236 - 02/21/24 07:20 AM (4 months, 2 days ago)

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Anyhoo I’ll go looking for a relevant trip report.



I'd be wary with doing that!
Not only because the variable nature of mushroom experience goes horizontally too, but cos you may end up with even more expectations (someone elses 'lvl 4 experience' 3g PE =ing your 3g PE giving the same or similar) that could hinder your own trip.

If you put plenty of effort into approaching the trip with the intent you mentioned, as well as prepping the s&s in a way that's conducive to it, then nerves should be alleviated more.
Maybe start looking at your behaviour etc as prep 'taking a good hard look at yourself' leading to the trip- having the mush experience as a part of an overall plan of action instead of resting your entire expectations on your first trip in a few years to do all the heavy lifting?

Northerner and openmind have you covered on the dosage specfics, AFAIK.

TLDR: Don't read trip reports, prepare to the best of your ability in the lead up, go by consensus dosage (1.5 to 2g) this time for rough idea and throw out expectations.
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Hope you get what you need out of it.

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Re: Is PE that much stronger? [Re: Soul Flight]
    #28669260 - 02/21/24 07:38 AM (4 months, 2 days ago)

I meant what causes a mushroom to be low in Psilocybin?

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Re: Is PE that much stronger? [Re: dylan10723]
    #28669263 - 02/21/24 07:41 AM (4 months, 2 days ago)

why are some apples crispier than others?
why are some oranges juicier than others?
why are some bananas more soft than others?

etc.

hold that thought...nature calls...


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Re: Is PE that much stronger? [Re: dylan10723] * 2
    #28669266 - 02/21/24 07:43 AM (4 months, 2 days ago)

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I meant what causes a mushroom to be low in Psilocybin?




Genetic Diversity.

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Re: Is PE that much stronger? [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #28669271 - 02/21/24 07:49 AM (4 months, 2 days ago)

*rushes back*
...in time for LC to save the day :mushroom2::cool::thumbup:


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