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SoggyMudflaps
Porcelain Doll

Registered: 08/10/23
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Loc: Milky Way Galaxy
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N00b looking for help
#28667794 - 02/20/24 07:41 AM (4 months, 4 days ago) |
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Hello, Shroomers! I’m still very new to this whole growing thing & Im sure some of my questions have been answered somewhere, but this forum is HUGE and like everything on the interwebs, there are contradictory information depending upon whom is posting. I’ll post my process, results, & then questions.
Here is my process: Spore syringes to agar, using BOD’s agar tek. I used LME and agar. I did strain isolations until I got the process down with little to no contams and one beautiful mycelium per dish. Oats in pint jars (I have a baby PC), agar slices to oats. Jar lids have poly fill. After 100% colonization in the jars, I added to coir in shoeboxes. Roughly 1qt to 1-2qt coir with roughlya cup of verm as a casing. Again, following bod’s tek, I covered each box with a grocery bag that had small holes poked in it. I was getting no pins for the longest time, when I realized it might be too cold (we keep our home at 60-65°F. So my partner suggested putting the shoeboxes in a larger tote with one of my Cozy Coop chicken heaters. Now the boxes are in an ambient temp of 70-75°F. It should be noted that we live in the upper Midwest, and use a wood burning stove to heat our home, so long months of frigid outdoor temps and low ambient humidity indoors.
Results: My latest harvest, when dried, was only 2oz. This was Purple Mystic. They grew sporadically, and had lots of side pins, so I didn’t have one big harvest, like I see in the pro’s posts. I’m thinking, that like most n00bs, I checked and misted too much. I plan of following Pasty’s shoebox tek and laying off the twice daily checks.
Questions: I’m seeing a lot of posts saying to keep the lids on, I worry about FAE, seeing as how mine are in a “hot box”. Are cold temps part my issue and do I need the hot box?
Thoughts on FAE if I keep them in the hot box?
Or do I just need to stop being an excited child and leave them tf alone?
Can someone explain the capacity thing I keep seeing in regards to the coir as if I AM a child? I wonder if I’m doing the coir wrong.
Am I stressing over nothing, like usual?
Thanks, everyone, I really appreciate you sharing your wisdom.
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ItsLinkNotZelda
Meat Popsicle
Registered: 01/20/24
Posts: 54
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2oz. dried from 1qt of spawn isn't a low yield. Not sure about the FAE inside of the "hot box" that might be something you will need to play around with, just check to make sure you have moister on the sides of the shoebox, but maybe someone with experience with that situation might be able to give a better answer Coir capacity is just how much water is in your coir when you hydrate it. You should be able to pick up a handful and squeeze it and only a few drops of water comes out, if the water is running out it's too wet, if you can't get any water out it's too dry. There are plenty of videos on YT you could look at to get a good visual of how it should look. PGT (phillygoldenteacher) has some great videos you should check out.
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SupaThaRipper
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Registered: 09/02/13
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I don’t know what capacity thing you’re referring to but it sounds like you’re doing everything right. Warmer temps will give you faster results. Pictures always help too. If your spawn was bacterial at all, it’ll result in a lower flush.
To prevent side pins, use a liner. Put the spawn and substrate in a bag and then the bag in a tote. Do not tape the liner to the tub. The liner should suck tight to the substrate as the substrate shrinks. I personally hate shoeboxes and only use monotubs or grow bags. Shoeboxes can be very restricting. What people mean by leaving the lid on is leaving it on but upside down. The slight gap will allow all the fae that you need. But as the mushrooms grow, you’ll need to add another tote to replace the lid but still leave it crack. This works great for smaller varieties. The bigger ones will just lift the top tote and wear it as a hat, causing too much of a gap and drying your grow out.
To get bigger flushes, you need to clone clusters. I’ll usually clone the biggest fruit that’s in a cluster. Take an internal tissue sample to agar, clean it up, if need be, and then restart your grow. Once that grows out. Take spores and restart the process. Spores, clone, spores, clone, spores, clone. Repeat, repeat, repeat. This will stabilize the traits you’re looking for and eventually bring you to a packed tub.
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Goatrider
Rhythm Guitarist



Registered: 04/08/20
Posts: 4,633
Loc: Germany
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Quote:
SoggyMudflaps said: Can someone explain the capacity thing I keep seeing in regards to the coir as if I AM a child? I wonder if I’m doing the coir wrong.
You mean field capacity, so water content. Squeeze the coir, it should release just a few drips. Started too dry, add more water. Started too wet, add verm. I hate verm, so i always stay dry side.
Edit: Just seen it was already answered 
As you said you possibly misted too much, it could result in weak flushes. Maybe you isolated away some hot genetics and was left with weaker ones. That's why i don't transfer just for a pretty plate, if i can make out a clean plate, i'll send it.
Usually lower temps ain't the cause for small fruits. They even get denser, but take some more time for the whole cycle. I can recommend shoeboxes 3 in a row inside a big mono. Look here.
Properly mix up your shoeboxes, especially sides and corners. This will help to keep sidepins at bay. The substrate will shrink a bit due to nutes getting spent. A liner can fix this, but honestly, a liner for a shoebox is a bit overboard. But i also did formerly, so why not 
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