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GenesisCorrupted
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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: sudly] 3
#28665835 - 02/18/24 05:10 PM (4 months, 6 days ago) |
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Scattershot missile fire, interview with fired Fox anchor, executing political dissidents. He’s panicking.
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mushboy
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I agree.
Was wondering why now for navalny. Putin had plenty of time for that guy. Why now??
Fear
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twighead
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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: The Ecstatic]
#28666272 - 02/19/24 01:46 AM (4 months, 5 days ago) |
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The Ecstatic said: Socialism is where you have an economic and political system geared towards the equitable distribution of wealth and resources.
Social democracy or democratic socialism is just capitalism with a welfare state. Virtually indistinguishable from current iterations of neoliberal capitalism.
It's funny how 'welfare state' has been turned into such a damning term - when all it really refers to, is to not letting people who for whatever reason aren't currently a cog in the capitalist machine starving to death and being homeless - or allowing people who contract any more than a minor health problem survive without crippling debt for the rest of their lives.
“For whatever reason” doing a lot of heavy lifting here lmao
Sure, the mob’s extortion racket is why my business can’t succeed, but on the other hand the mobsters make sure I stay alive so I can keep paying them, so who’s to say if it’s good or bad.
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The Ecstatic
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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: twighead] 1
#28666409 - 02/19/24 07:19 AM (4 months, 5 days ago) |
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mushboy said: I agree.
Was wondering why now for navalny. Putin had plenty of time for that guy. Why now??
Fear

Probably hubris. He sees Western focus shift to Israel and feels he can get some stuff done and fly under the radar.
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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: The Ecstatic]
#28666413 - 02/19/24 07:22 AM (4 months, 5 days ago) |
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The Ecstatic said: Probably hubris. He sees Western focus shift to Israel and feels he can get some stuff done and fly under the radar.

Americans usually get shit right by about the 3rd or 4th year of any war...
This is just a reflection of that.
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GenesisCorrupted said: Scattershot missile fire, interview with fired Fox anchor, executing political dissidents. He’s panicking.
I believe Tucker Carlson had the #1 cable news show in the country, didn't he? I think it's kind of weird how people try and act like he's fallen out of relevance, because Fox News doesn't sign his paychecks anymore. That's just not true.
Interviewing Putin is a good thing for a journalist to do btw. Good journalists have always interviewed world leaders from countries we have conflicts with.
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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: Bigbadwooof]
#28666443 - 02/19/24 07:38 AM (4 months, 5 days ago) |
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He basically has fallen out of relevance though. His Twitter show absolutely bombed.
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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: The Ecstatic]
#28666482 - 02/19/24 08:09 AM (4 months, 5 days ago) |
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The Ecstatic said: He basically has fallen out of relevance though. His Twitter show absolutely bombed.
Hmm... Well, what do I know. I never watched his show...
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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: Bigbadwooof] 2
#28666491 - 02/19/24 08:14 AM (4 months, 5 days ago) |
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Bigbadwooof said:
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GenesisCorrupted said: Scattershot missile fire, interview with fired Fox anchor, executing political dissidents. He’s panicking.
I believe Tucker Carlson had the #1 cable news show in the country, didn't he? I think it's kind of weird how people try and act like he's fallen out of relevance, because Fox News doesn't sign his paychecks anymore. That's just not true.
Interviewing Putin is a good thing for a journalist to do btw. Good journalists have always interviewed world leaders from countries we have conflicts with.
For a journalist, yes. Carlson is not a journalist. Carlson is a kept opinion columnist with a very well practiced look of dumbfounded confusion.
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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: Kryptos]
#28666494 - 02/19/24 08:17 AM (4 months, 5 days ago) |
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Kryptos said: For a journalist, yes. Carlson is not a journalist. Carlson is a kept opinion columnist with a very well practiced look of dumbfounded confusion.
That's what journalism is in America today... At any rate, interviewing Putin certainly counts and journalism, by anyone's standards.
I just read that Fox News has threatened to sue him for posting videos on Twitter, because he's still under contract with them... Hmm..
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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: Bigbadwooof] 1
#28666532 - 02/19/24 08:42 AM (4 months, 5 days ago) |
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Nah, journalism is more than sitting and listening to someone talk while maintaining previously mentioned expression and making sounds of vague agreement.
Same reason Joe Rogan isn't a journalist.
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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: Kryptos] 1
#28666555 - 02/19/24 08:58 AM (4 months, 5 days ago) |
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Kryptos said: Nah, journalism is more than sitting and listening to someone talk while maintaining previously mentioned expression and making sounds of vague agreement.
Same reason Joe Rogan isn't a journalist.
Actually, that is journalism. You may not like it, but listening to someone talk, and publishing it is journalism.
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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: Kryptos]
#28666582 - 02/19/24 09:17 AM (4 months, 5 days ago) |
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GenesisCorrupted said: Scattershot missile fire, interview with fired Fox anchor, executing political dissidents. He’s panicking.
I believe Tucker Carlson had the #1 cable news show in the country, didn't he? I think it's kind of weird how people try and act like he's fallen out of relevance, because Fox News doesn't sign his paychecks anymore. That's just not true.
Interviewing Putin is a good thing for a journalist to do btw. Good journalists have always interviewed world leaders from countries we have conflicts with.
For a journalist, yes. Carlson is not a journalist. Carlson is a kept opinion columnist with a very well practiced look of dumbfounded confusion.
Also possibly a member of the CIA
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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: The Ecstatic]
#28666586 - 02/19/24 09:18 AM (4 months, 5 days ago) |
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The Ecstatic said: Also possibly a member of the CIA
...huh?
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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: Bigbadwooof]
#28666594 - 02/19/24 09:21 AM (4 months, 5 days ago) |
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Tucker “tried” to join the CIA after college, but didn’t. Similar story to Anderson Cooper and other media figures.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mockingbird
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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: The Ecstatic]
#28666606 - 02/19/24 09:26 AM (4 months, 5 days ago) |
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The Ecstatic said: Tucker “tried” to join the CIA after college, but didn’t. Similar story to Anderson Cooper and other media figures.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mockingbird
Interesting.
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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: Bigbadwooof]
#28666631 - 02/19/24 09:48 AM (4 months, 5 days ago) |
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Bigbadwooof said:
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Kryptos said: Nah, journalism is more than sitting and listening to someone talk while maintaining previously mentioned expression and making sounds of vague agreement.
Same reason Joe Rogan isn't a journalist.
Actually, that is journalism. You may not like it, but listening to someone talk, and publishing it is journalism.
Yeah, the same way that burger king is technically food.
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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: Bigbadwooof] 1
#28666634 - 02/19/24 09:49 AM (4 months, 5 days ago) |
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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: twighead] 1
#28666725 - 02/19/24 11:24 AM (4 months, 5 days ago) |
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The Ecstatic said: Socialism is where you have an economic and political system geared towards the equitable distribution of wealth and resources.
Social democracy or democratic socialism is just capitalism with a welfare state. Virtually indistinguishable from current iterations of neoliberal capitalism.
It's funny how 'welfare state' has been turned into such a damning term - when all it really refers to, is to not letting people who for whatever reason aren't currently a cog in the capitalist machine starving to death and being homeless - or allowing people who contract any more than a minor health problem survive without crippling debt for the rest of their lives.
Might be different in Europe. I've never heard the term used except by those who oppose the 'welfare state'. It comes up on Fox News or when Pat Buchanon was on Crossfire. Mostly associate it with Archie Bunker and Edith singing that song every week.
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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: Brian Jones] 1
#28666909 - 02/19/24 01:32 PM (4 months, 5 days ago) |
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Russian traitor caught a hail of bullets in Spain. https://twitter.com/vicktop55/status/1759616007847424251
He was a pilot in the Russian air force and was responsible for taking a deal with the SBU to fly his Mi-8 chopper and land it in Ukrainian territory in exchange for 500k USD. The problem is he also brought along two co-pilots with him involuntarily, and they were both executed on the spot by Ukrainian soldiers.
This is what a real FSB hit looks like, unlike Navalny, who apparently died of a heart attack or stroke. Though his death was probably accelerated as a result of the harsh conditions of prison.
PS - I don't think Tucker ever joined the CIA. Or else he wouldn't have interviewed Putin or be talking about things that the intel community doesn't want journalists to be covering. Seems counter productive for a supposed CIA agent.
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