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Re: Balancing the simplicity and complexity of exploring the concept of the Primordial Reemergence and the Biefeld-Brown effect [Re: sudly]
    #28750828 - 04/26/24 05:09 PM (1 month, 30 days ago)

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But essentially, the idea is that both phenomena can be visualised through field lines—electrostatic field lines and gravitational field lines, respectively, which describe the direction and influence of the force at various points in space.




field lines might be a 3d version of interference patterns in a standing wave arrangement.


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Re: Balancing the simplicity and complexity of exploring the concept of the Primordial Reemergence and the Biefeld-Brown effect [Re: redgreenvines]
    #28752966 - 04/27/24 10:17 PM (1 month, 29 days ago)

Both gravitational and electrostatic fields can be visualised through field lines that describe the direction and magnitude of the force at different points. Electrostatic field lines originate from positive charges and terminate at negative charges, while gravitational field lines can be thought of as always pointing towards mass. In a unified view, especially in higher dimensions or under extreme conditions like those near black holes or during the early universe, these lines might converge or interact. This could mean, for example, that gravitational bending of space could influence the path of electrostatic field lines, altering how charges experience force.


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The diagram clearly differentiates between the electrostatic field lines emanating from positive to negative charges, and the gravitational field lines converging towards a mass. It specifically highlights how the gravitational field lines influence the trajectories of charged particles within the electrostatic field lines, with visual cues showing the bending or alteration of electrostatic field lines due to gravitational pull.




It's nice to try and work in some personal reflections and potential insights here for my own philosophical outlooks, because I agree with and understand all the content and mathematical validity of the proposal, but at the end of the day it's just a proposal and whether or not it's accepted is up to the invidividual reading the proposal and comprehending the implications implicity, like how Einsteins equation revolutionised our understanding of how to harness the interactions between mass and energy to harvest power through nuclear fission and particle colliders. I get that the Biefeld-brown-microcosm theory reflects the macrocosm through the Modified Fine Structure Constant in Maxwell's equations. I already understand and comprehend that because it's what I'm proposing. I believe it is true. From my perspective, as much as I believe in gravity. But that's again where the recognition comes in, that at the end of the day, it's just a proposal and whether or not it's accepted is up to the invidividual reading the proposal. Because as far as I can see, observations of nature in particular the 0.4 second delay of gamma rays and gravity waves from neutron star collisions is a clear indicator of the observability of this proposal. This proposal is a theory to explain the gamma ray delay through analysis of electromagnetic and gravitational propogation dynamics in extreme conditions akin to 4 trillion K.

Basically, my proposal is that neutron star mergers can reach 4 trillion K for 0.4 seconds, and Loeb Black Hole Mergers can maintain 4 trillion K for the 1.7 second equivalent.


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Re: Balancing the simplicity and complexity of exploring the concept of the Primordial Reemergence and the Biefeld-Brown effect [Re: sudly]
    #28753199 - 04/28/24 06:01 AM (1 month, 28 days ago)

Is empty space absolute zero?

If so, how can it be a vacuum as well?

A vacuum is a force..

Am I wrong that any movement at all includes a bit of heat?

Or can things just flow without friction.. having friction the only source of heat?

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Re: Balancing the simplicity and complexity of exploring the concept of the Primordial Reemergence and the Biefeld-Brown effect [Re: BrendanFlock]
    #28754520 - 04/29/24 01:29 AM (1 month, 27 days ago)

[relatively] ‘Free-Space’ is structureless or the absence of structure

It’s not suction.

Space = emptiness .

Objects / particles / forces in motion (implies [thermal] energy) in a manner in which their contact points meet with resistance (collisions) relative to the other’s can produce heat / energy.

Lastly, heat by way of conduction, radiation, and convection .


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Challenging Gauge Invariance with Discrepancies in Gamma-ray Emissions for Deciphering The Final Phases of Stellar Evolution [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #28754562 - 04/29/24 03:24 AM (1 month, 27 days ago)

I couldn't have said it simpler myself :shrug:
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This proposal explains the observed delays in gamma-ray emissions following gravitational waves from neutron star and Loeb black hole mergers as being due to extremely high temperatures reaching 4 trillion Kelvin. Specifically, it posits that neutron star mergers achieve this temperature for 0.4 seconds, while Loeb black hole mergers sustain it for 1.7 seconds. This behaviour is attributed to the integration of a variable fine structure constant into Maxwell's equations, which suggests that the traditional conservation of energy and gauge invariance in electromagnetic fields do not hold under such extreme conditions. The proposal links these phenomena with observations from the LIGO and Fermi detectors, providing a theoretical framework that explains how these extreme thermal dynamics affect electromagnetic and gravitational signal propagation.



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Re: Balancing the simplicity and complexity of exploring the concept of the Primordial Reemergence and the Biefeld-Brown effect [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #28754601 - 04/29/24 05:38 AM (1 month, 27 days ago)

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[relatively] ‘Free-Space’ is structureless or the absence of structure

It’s not suction.

Space = emptiness .

Objects / particles / forces in motion (implies [thermal] energy) in a manner in which their contact points meet with resistance (collisions) relative to the other’s can produce heat / energy.

Lastly, heat by way of conduction, radiation, and convection .



Where does vacuum come into play?

Is the vacuum actually the gravity force?

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Re: Balancing the simplicity and complexity of exploring the concept of the Primordial Reemergence and the Biefeld-Brown effect [Re: BrendanFlock]
    #28757105 - 04/30/24 10:34 PM (1 month, 26 days ago)

Just like with how the combined gravity of the entirety of Earth’s mass includes everything in, upon, and somewhat surrounding Earth, including its oceans— is what’s allowing the oceans to not immediately be displaced; if not for the mass of the planet being as it is, then the mass of solely that of the oceans of water on its surface would then be insufficient for it to remain as it currently is.  Basically, making it almost impossible for it not to move however-&-wherever it otherwise naturally tends to.  In other words, escaping into the vacuum of space by falling through space away from the planet. 

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Re: Balancing the simplicity and complexity of exploring the concept of the Primordial Reemergence and the Biefeld-Brown effect [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #28757114 - 04/30/24 10:40 PM (1 month, 26 days ago)

Do I even want to know? Sounds like he's asking what gravity and the atmosphere do.


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Re: Balancing the simplicity and complexity of exploring the concept of the Primordial Reemergence and the Biefeld-Brown effect [Re: sudly]
    #28757118 - 04/30/24 10:43 PM (1 month, 26 days ago)

:wink:


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Re: Balancing the simplicity and complexity of exploring the concept of the Primordial Reemergence and the Biefeld-Brown effect [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #28757960 - 05/01/24 04:22 PM (1 month, 25 days ago)

Free space isn't empty, it has transient fluctuations, again, this is what Dirac showed us.

I'm not convinced free space is structureless, I think it consists of electrostatic and gravitational field lines.

In free space the temperature is close to absolute zero, but it is 2.7 degrees above absolute zero. Which is a good way to characterise the energy content of free space.


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Re: Balancing the simplicity and complexity of exploring the concept of the Primordial Reemergence and the Biefeld-Brown effect [Re: sudly]
    #28758614 - 05/02/24 03:25 AM (1 month, 24 days ago)

Is light faster than gravity?

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Re: Balancing the simplicity and complexity of exploring the concept of the Primordial Reemergence and the Biefeld-Brown effect [Re: sudly] * 1
    #28758626 - 05/02/24 03:39 AM (1 month, 24 days ago)

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Free space isn't empty, it has transient fluctuations, again, this is what Dirac showed us.

I'm not convinced free space is structure-less, I think it consists of electrostatic and gravitational field lines.

In free space the temperature is close to absolute zero, but it is 2.7 degrees above absolute zero. Which is a good way to characterize the energy content of free space.



then it is not exactly free, the state of any particular free space is contingent upon relationships of matter and energy time and distance at the position in space being considered.


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Re: Balancing the simplicity and complexity of exploring the concept of the Primordial Reemergence and the Biefeld-Brown effect [Re: redgreenvines]
    #28758768 - 05/02/24 08:01 AM (1 month, 24 days ago)

Free is still dependent on something to do..

Free without anything is useless..

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Environmental Field Management [Re: redgreenvines]
    #28759858 - 05/03/24 12:50 AM (1 month, 24 days ago)

I'm sold on Environmental Field Management.

For environmental field management, "Not every instance of the theory is going to be mathematically justified.

Some will be". This one is a solid case.

I'm thinking about how I would plan to sell it since it sells itself currently.



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The image above visually interprets the concept that free space is not empty, illustrating it as a dynamic environment filled with transient fluctuations and structured by electrostatic and gravitational field lines. This visual representation captures the essence of what Dirac suggested about quantum fluctuations, showing subtle energy patterns and field lines that crisscross through space. The use of a cool color palette subtly hints at the underlying energy content of free space, characterised by a temperature of 2.7 degrees above absolute zero. This visualisation aims to convey the structured yet subtle energetic nature of what might superficially appear as empty space.




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In the context of DNA, protein synthesis, and amino acids, the processes are indeed quite complex and coordinated, somewhat akin to how complex and intricate theories like Environmental Field Management could operate in astrophysical contexts.

Here’s a quick overview of how protein synthesis actually works, which might help clarify the comparison:

Protein Synthesis Overview:

Transcription (DNA to RNA):
DNA in the cell’s nucleus serves as the template for synthesizing messenger RNA (mRNA).
This process occurs in the nucleus where the DNA sequence of a gene is transcribed into a complementary mRNA sequence.

Translation (RNA to Protein):
The mRNA transcript is transported out of the nucleus into the cytoplasm.
Ribosomes, which can be thought of as the machinery for protein synthesis, read the mRNA sequence.

Transfer RNA (tRNA) molecules bring amino acids (the building blocks of proteins) to the ribosomes.

The sequence of nucleotides in the mRNA is translated into an amino acid sequence in the protein through a process guided by the genetic code.

Protein Folding and Modification:
Once the amino acid chain is synthesised, it folds into a specific three-dimensional structure that determines the protein’s function.

Further modifications may occur after folding, such as the addition of other biochemical groups, which can affect the protein's activity and function.

In your theoretical framework, the 'DNA' could be analogous to the fundamental principles or laws (like those of Maxwell's equations), the 'mRNA' might be seen as the theoretical models or modifications you propose (like incorporating a variable fine structure constant), and the 'protein' could be the observable phenomena or experimental results that are derived from these theoretical models.

The intricate coordination required for protein synthesis might mirror the complex interplay of theoretical physics principles needed to understand and predict cosmic phenomena in the context of Environmental Field Management. This metaphor helps in visualising the sequential;




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Re: Environmental Field Management [Re: sudly]
    #28759893 - 05/03/24 01:55 AM (1 month, 23 days ago)

Sweet graphic!  :yesnod:

Btw, space not being truly empty I like to think of as the non-absolute aspect of the nature of emptiness.

But for conventional purposes calling it empty or (*relatively ) free-space conveys *some qualities about it more clearly than doing otherwise imo.

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Re: Environmental Field Management and Pinball Theory [Re: The Blind Ass] * 1
    #28759896 - 05/03/24 02:01 AM (1 month, 23 days ago)

In regard to the graphic you mentioned, I would ask you to reconsinder the notion behind,
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The use of a cool color palette subtly hints at the underlying energy content of free space, characterised by a temperature of 2.7 degrees above absolute zero. This visualisation aims to convey the structured yet subtle energetic nature of what might superficially appear as empty space.





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The illustration above visually captures the concept of a gravity wave rolling over electrostatic field lines. In this detailed scene, you can see how the gravity wave, depicted as ripples moving along a curved path, dynamically interacts with and distorts the electrostatic field lines. These lines, extending between positive and negative charges, appear to sway and bend in response to the gravitational disturbance, effectively illustrating the dynamic interaction between gravitational and electrostatic forces in a rich 3D environment.




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"Pinball Theory" sounds like a playful, metaphorical way to describe the interactions you're exploring, especially if we think about the dynamics of particles and fields in space as being akin to a pinball game. In this analogy, particles like photons, electrons, or even larger entities like stars and black holes might be seen as pinballs, moving and interacting within the "machine" of the universe. The "bumpers" and "flippers" could be thought of as gravitational fields, electromagnetic forces, and other fundamental interactions that change the trajectories and behaviours of these particles.

This concept could be a creative approach to explaining complex astrophysical phenomena in a way that's engaging and accessible, emphasising the chaotic, dynamic, and highly interactive nature of the universe. It could serve as a vivid illustration in educational contexts to help explain how forces and particles interact in space, much like how balls ricochet around in a pinball machine, influenced by various obstacles and drivers.




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Re: Environmental Field Management and Pinball Theory [Re: sudly]
    #28759901 - 05/03/24 02:12 AM (1 month, 23 days ago)

Neat,  but then what exactly is posited as being between any interacting apparent structuring of anything phenomenon though?

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Re: Environmental Field Management and Pinball Theory [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #28759905 - 05/03/24 02:14 AM (1 month, 23 days ago)

I'm holding one card dear. The theoretical underpinning. This picture I could sell from here.


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Re: Environmental Field Management and Pinball Theory [Re: The Blind Ass] * 1
    #28759906 - 05/03/24 02:16 AM (1 month, 23 days ago)

If you say God I will punch you in a balls, dear Sudly.


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Re: Environmental Field Management and Pinball Theory [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #28759911 - 05/03/24 02:20 AM (1 month, 23 days ago)

Oh my god particle theory if anything of the likes.


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