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InvisibleOhMrJohnson
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Kash's A/B Mescaline Tek Questions
    #28657474 - 02/12/24 08:22 PM (4 months, 10 days ago)

So I recently conducted this extraction for the first time, with relatively decent results.. ended up yielding about 400mg of mescaline HCl out of some quality bridgesii cuttings and an old piece of San Pedro I had laying around

:borat:

I probably could've gotten a bit more out of it but I spilled about a third of the acidified water right at the end, among a couple other mistakes.. I'll be doing another run soon with some more cuttings I have laying around, with the hope of ultimately perfecting this technique..

I just had a couple questions for folks in the know who may be more familiar with this procedure than I..

First of all, can the xylene be reused or should I get a fresh container for the next run?

Second of all, if the xylene can't be reused would it be worth doing another acid salting pull on it or is it probably all tapped out from the first one? It still has a golden color to it but I figure that's just resins from the plant although I'm not really sure :shrug:

Third of all, is there any benefit to using only 1 foot worth of cuttings per run rather than 2? I have plenty of ingredients to spare besides xylene so I don't mind doing multiple runs if doing so will increase the efficiency of the extraction.

Thanks in advance for any advice! I'll probably be testing the product next weekend if you know what I mean

:thatsayes:


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Re: Kash's A/B Mescaline Tek Questions [Re: OhMrJohnson] * 1
    #28659856 - 02/14/24 04:54 PM (4 months, 8 days ago)

Since no one else has responded I guess I will, although I’ve only done one extraction and bout to do another. That being said. I’m sure someone else will come along and give you better info. You can absolutely re-use xylene, and yes the yellow color is from the plant oils and whatnot. As for the one foot cutting as opposed to more… I’m really not sure. I guess you would know when you’ve salted everything in the xylene a little faster without wasting time evaporating acidic water.. I used as much as I had (120g dried) and kept doing pulls till I didnt get anything else. Honestly I got everything from 3 pulls into the xylene. Although I did a 4th for good measure. Each pull was salted 4 times and the those 4 were combined and evaporated at once. For a total of 4 evaporations of the results of 16 saltings. Hope this helps/makes sense!

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Re: Kash's A/B Mescaline Tek Questions [Re: Goodlife0209]
    #28660447 - 02/15/24 07:20 AM (4 months, 8 days ago)

Thanks much for the input!

I used fresh frozen diced cactus as my input so I have no idea what the dry starting weight would've been, I'm also unsure if the San Pedro was even active, what I got could've just been from the bridge :shrug:

So you got more product from additional acid salting pulls then? I may do a couple more then and see what else I can get out of it before I do another fresh run

There seems to still be some emulsion left over in the xylene from the last acid salting pull but I could probably get it out with a hot water bath, not sure if it really matters..

Very exciting stuff though, I just think it's really cool that this procedure actually works


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Re: Kash's A/B Mescaline Tek Questions [Re: Goodlife0209]
    #28660448 - 02/15/24 07:22 AM (4 months, 8 days ago)

Also I combined all five xylene pulls into one jar and acid salted out of the combined amount

You think it's better to salt pull each xylene pull separately or is it fine to do it all in one the way I did it?


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Re: Kash's A/B Mescaline Tek Questions [Re: OhMrJohnson]
    #28660729 - 02/15/24 12:11 PM (4 months, 7 days ago)

Dude that’s nuts, my first extraction was 1/2 bridge/ Pedro. And I only got like 500 mg initially. I figured the Pedro was bunk and threw in more Bridgesii. Yeah I got more from the following pulls, the second was the biggest for some reason. I salted the xylene separately cuz I was worried the later pulls would have more impurities and wanted to have them separate just in case. Now looking back tho… I think adding too much HCL had more of an impact on the purity tho. When I added too much it turned kinda dark brown in spots and seemed more oily.

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Re: Kash's A/B Mescaline Tek Questions [Re: Goodlife0209]
    #28661240 - 02/15/24 06:56 PM (4 months, 7 days ago)

I definitely overshot the mark on mine as far as acidity goes, ended up getting a pH reading around 1 or 2. My product still came out nice and crystalline though, not oily at all. The crystals cleaned up very nicely with ethyl acetate as the washing agent

Next run I do will be strictly bridgesii but I'm definitely gonna try another few acid salting pulls on the xylene first


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Re: Kash's A/B Mescaline Tek Questions [Re: OhMrJohnson] * 1
    #28665080 - 02/18/24 08:05 AM (4 months, 5 days ago)

Yeah the when I added the extra Bridgesii I didn’t do a defat. Wasn’t much of the oily crystals and only happened in later pulls. Really just a few spots. I chose not to do a wash the first time around and keep the extra alkaloids. I will do an anhydrous acetone wash this next time. I’m also using just Bridgesii this time around. At least till I can get some legit pedro. Just had my first full blown trip on it last weekend. Freaking amazing. Nothing but joy and bliss for 12 hr+!!! My face hurt so bad from smiling, lol. Still feel it working now. Wonderful medicine!

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Re: Kash's A/B Mescaline Tek Questions [Re: Goodlife0209]
    #28665136 - 02/18/24 08:43 AM (4 months, 5 days ago)

Awesome to hear that man! It is the finest psychedelic on the planet IMO

I did a secondary acid salting pull on the xylene a couple nights ago, still waiting for the water to evaporate to find out if I got anything more from it

Got my 400mg from the first run into a capsule, decided I'm going to save it for springtime so I can take it up in the mountains in a natural setting. Took some L yesterday from a new batch and boy was that stuff strong, I absolutely fried my face off

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Re: Kash's A/B Mescaline Tek Questions [Re: OhMrJohnson] * 1
    #28665177 - 02/18/24 09:16 AM (4 months, 5 days ago)

That’s what I did. My wife and I got a cabin in the mountains for our 10 yr anniversary and did it there. Perfect setting, although it did rain a bunch. Going to Myrtle beach next time, got a condo with a water park right on the beach:-) gonna be a blast

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Re: Kash's A/B Mescaline Tek Questions [Re: Goodlife0209]
    #28665181 - 02/18/24 09:19 AM (4 months, 5 days ago)

I haven’t had any good L since I was in my 20’s, lol. I did just drop 75mg of HCL an hour or so ago. It’s a pretty wonderful micro/macro dose. Just now starting to notice it, gonna spend the day playing with the kids, taking breaks for a bowl of course and jamming out to something fun.

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Re: Kash's A/B Mescaline Tek Questions [Re: Goodlife0209]
    #28665197 - 02/18/24 09:27 AM (4 months, 5 days ago)

Hmm interesting, I never really thought about microdosing it. Gonna have to try that for sure

Last time I took mesc was almost 8 years ago, it was synthetic mesc from the darkweb, well I participated in a peyote ceremony about 4 years ago but that's a totally different experience, not nearly as fun IMO because you don't have the freedom to do what you want during the trip, you're just kinda stuck sitting around the fire and singing songs all night which isn't really my thing :shrug:

Good L is very plentiful and cheap for me where I live and I really enjoy it but it definitely isn't quite as euphoric as mescaline, it can also be a lot more unsettling and takes me into my head a lot, forces me to face my fears, doubts and insecurities head-on which IMO is a good thing but can also be really scary:lol:

I find the mescaline experience to be a lot more mellow in terms of the headspace, also L is much more difficult to microdose than mushrooms or mescaline although I rarely do microdoses, will have to experiment more with them in the near future


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Re: Kash's A/B Mescaline Tek Questions [Re: OhMrJohnson] * 1
    #28665223 - 02/18/24 09:38 AM (4 months, 5 days ago)

I can’t trip as much as I’d like cuz I have little ones. I tried microdosing shrooms, but if I’m being honest, I felt like it was a waste. All the magic is at higher doses. That isn’t the case with mescaline. Even 50mgs has an obvious effect on my energy level, positivity, and sex drive. I usually just dry out the inner green flesh, powder, and put it in a capsule(.6-.8g) since that is waaaayyy less work than extracting it, lol. But I had like .220 left over from the last extraction and I’m getting more cactus tomorrow hopefully. So I just took the crystal this time:-)

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Re: Kash's A/B Mescaline Tek Questions [Re: Goodlife0209]
    #28665258 - 02/18/24 09:57 AM (4 months, 5 days ago)

With bridgesii, one extracts a whole lot more than the mescaline. Other alkaloids make up the experience even though none are active at that level alone.

And I've had pachanoi that was super active at about 15" that was about 2" diameter, and another that was hardly active at all at 1.5 times that size.

I believe that with almost alkaloids, 3 pulls gets
The majority of alkaloids, at least 87.5%. an exception I've read about and not done was dmt freebase, adding water to the bark/naoh mixture for a 4th pull and leaving it for a month, and it's a sizeable extraction!

I forgot what else I was going to say but if I remember, I'll post it!

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Re: Kash's A/B Mescaline Tek Questions [Re: fnulnu]
    #28665312 - 02/18/24 10:30 AM (4 months, 5 days ago)

So feeling the dose kicking in pretty good now, gonna hit a bowl with a little rue extract on it… for science! Lmao

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Re: Kash's A/B Mescaline Tek Questions [Re: Goodlife0209]
    #28668888 - 02/20/24 09:37 PM (4 months, 2 days ago)

I didn't get jack shit out of the second acid salting pull

Well I got a super tiny amount, nothing significant. Guessing I got 95 percent of it on the first pull

Got some more cuttings on the way, plus there's a girl in my town who agreed to throw me some San Pedro cuttings in exchange for me splitting the yield with her

So I should have enough material for a bunch more runs here soon

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Re: Kash's A/B Mescaline Tek Questions [Re: OhMrJohnson]
    #28669189 - 02/21/24 05:58 AM (4 months, 2 days ago)

Hell yeah, I just had 65” of Bridgesii arrive yesterday. Gonna start another one soon. I wonder if I got more on the later darlings cuz I used a small amount of h2o/hcl. Like 150 ml per salting, then combined them. It was my first crack at it. Bet this time goes much smoother, I think it may have been overkill to pull 4 times and salt them each 4 times. I kept getting conflicting info online about how much to do… now I see I can get most of everything in 3 pulls with prob one good salting each. Experience really is the best teacher, lol.

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